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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:52 AM
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Not an appeal, let's make a business proposal
The exit polling data IS FOR SALE.

You may not know that the NATIONAL ELECTION POOL EXIT POLL (formed by the TV networks and AP) states in its website that the exit poll data will be on sale ONE WEEK AFTER ELECTION DAY to news organizations and WEBSITES among other institutions. I have not seen this statement modified as of today.

So, why don't we put our money where our mouth is?

Let's buy it and put it on the hands of the statisticians that visit this forum.

The "Roper Center" (UConn) will also obtain the exit poll but data 3 MONTHS AFTER THE ELECTION.

It will be on sale too. I don't know about you but I feel that democracy can't wait that long.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:55 AM
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1. Raw data or "corrected" data?
I suspect it will be the latter and therefore will likley be useless.




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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:06 AM
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4. Ruy Texeira's response
I read it somewhere. Roughly it goes like this:

"They would release the RAW DATA WITHOUT CORRECTION, but it wouldn't show how they weighted it or what methodology they used..."

"What you would like to know is, at least, how the sampling was done and the totals of the last batch of inquiries and phone calls made ONE HOUR BEFORE THE POLLS WERE CLOSED in election day...and they will not tell you that"

* Texeira is a Democratic strategist.
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ewulf Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:12 AM
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6. Ah yes, I read that too...
I guess that is the implication. The raw, raw data would still be very useful. If included the raw head counts for weighting demographics, then we could reconstruct solid corrected (but not adjusted) numbers like those from before the final adjustments were made.


If it gave us numbers from specific precincts, that would be awesome.
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ewulf Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:08 AM
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5. I started a thread like this weeks ago,
then someone asked if it was just the "corrected' data, and I couldn't say for sure.


Then the thread sunk deep into the abyss.

It would be really nice to know what they are offering.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:06 PM
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12. Well...
I thought we were going to have some "takers"...

I wouldn't have any problem giving money to buy the data. Anybody else willing to do it?
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:58 AM
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2. I do not understand why George Soros hasn't done this.....
he must be in a deep depression.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:18 AM
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7. Forget Soros
He's a boogieman. We, the people can't count on they, the monied no matter what side they're on this news cycle. If he ever helps enough to make a difference, great, if not, no big deal. We, the people, have to do this ourselves.




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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:01 AM
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3. OMG.. if its for sale.. we'll pay no problem!
pehaps someone can call them and ask, cant hurt to try... i saw i thread where ppl are asking KOberman to get it. this thread has the info for the polling company

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x131026

that raw data could be the key!
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:14 PM
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8. Kick
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MarkusQ Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:28 PM
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9. Kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:32 PM
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10. kick!
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:49 PM
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11. Kick for great justice!
KICK!
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