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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:37 PM
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VOTING IRREGULARITIES & OHIO RECOUNT-CNN 3:30 EST Judy Woodrufff--
I thought you'de might want to know, :think:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:40 PM
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1. Let those of us who don't have access to Judy Woodruff's
Tales from the Crypt know what Vampira has to say.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:42 PM
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2. I Don't Have The Timer Set, But Doesn't This . . .
make you think something REALLY, REALLY big COULD happen? It might not be as much of a pipe dream as everybody thinks(I still have some hope Kerry can be inaugurated on Jan. 20th)
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:45 PM
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4. Yes, It does make me think
<<<<<<<something REALLY, REALLY big COULD happen>>>>>>

But, knowing Woodruff, I don't expect a fair synopsis of the situation--
But, News does keep coming out, little, by little.
And for the crumbs we are receiving, I am hopeful.

That is why I love Keith Olbermann so much.
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:43 PM
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3. Wolf Blitzer just did a scathing expose'
so if Woodruff's is anything like his....ROFLMAO.
Actually if I ever see those 2 "talking Heads " from Blitzer again I may be tempted to throw the TV down the stairs.
Any evidence JW won't be as biased?
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:37 PM
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50. Judy's nothing like Wolf
Judy Woodruff is pretty good, I think. You really can't compare her to Wolf Blitzer at all.

But what was Blitzer's "scathing expose"? And how can I get quotation marks that go the right way? And what is ROFLMAO?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:56 PM
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55. ROFLMAO means
Rolling on (the) floor laughing my ass off.

I can't help you with with Blitzer reference. Ditched cable years ago!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:18 PM
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5. LOL! Yes Judy will be on about irregularity, but...
she should keep that private! As it relates to cnn covering it accurately and truthfully, oh please, real reporting and newsleft that building when Turner left! :nopity:
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:39 PM
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7. What ever happened to Ted?
Doesn't he feel the need to start a new TV station?
Why did he sell out to such a loser?

And why is CNN into food contamination/bioterrorism? And why do the Rpukes keep saying they are going to go "Nuclear" over stuff. Subliminal scare the terrorist threat out of us????

Sigh,
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:35 PM
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49. Ted was forced out
It was awful when it happened, and he was sore distraught. But they forced him out.

The CNN International folks I know want him back, I know that much. I think lots of reporters would like to see him back.

I have asked myself the same question over and over -- why doesn't he start another one?

The other thing is, he promised the UN a billion dollars, which was to be spread out over a number of years. Then the stock market tanked. So I think it has been harder for him to pay out 10 million dollars every year -- or whatever the agreement was -- than he had anticipated. And then he and Jane Fonda were divorced, after she was "born again". (!!!)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:27 PM
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6. Story on CNN.com
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:32 PM
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8. Kick
:kick:

Judy Woodchuck on CNN now.
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:43 PM
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9. "What do Democrats think they'll find?"
She sounds just a LITTLE bit condescending...
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:44 PM
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10. What is she saying?
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:47 PM
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11. It's all about the intelligence bill right now
Just a blurb before a commercial about voting irregularities, "What do Democrats think they will find?"
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:14 PM
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18. Just a Little bit???? lol! I really don't want to watch her, and haven't
In a few weeks, but this will hopefully? be worth watching.
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:59 PM
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12. John McCain is SOOOOOOOO
Worried about steroid use in baseball...but not about a stolen election.

Am I the only one who finds this totally, painfully absurd?
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:09 PM
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14. Barry Bonds is so much more important
:eyes:
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:13 PM
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16. I know
Iam sick of the hypocracy with those people, and they worry about fraud in the ukrane, but not here.

Can i just hit them in the head please:spank:
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:29 PM
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34. YES!!
You may hit them in the head!

But don't hold your breath that it will knock any sense into them.
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:08 PM
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13. I just caught the tail end... saw Kerry...anyone know what was said? n/t
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:09 PM
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15. Nothing much yet
It was a blurb asking why he was in New Hampshire over the weekend.
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:13 PM
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17. She reported *s approval ratings up.I find that hard to believe.
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:15 PM
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20. How can that Be?
I'm not buying it.
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:41 PM
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39. Only amoung the Repuke party....on another thread...n/t
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:14 PM
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19. She is covering Ohio
Recount right now. Tivo is set.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:15 PM
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21. On now...
Ken Blackwell certified in the last hour but the count may not be over.

Just as the final vote is being certified several major challenges, a call for recount and lawsuit.

Ken Blackwell, says audit can withstand public scrutiny and recounts.
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:45 PM
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52. Evil Blackwell
If he says the audit can withstand the recounts, his minions must have been busy at work creating false ballots and covering their tracks.
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:15 PM
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22. They are showing Blackwell certifing the vote.
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libmeayer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:29 PM
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35. He already certified the votes?
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:17 PM
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23. It's all just a rehash.
Kerry campaign is doing legal piggybacking, 25 voters filed lawsuit, Glibs wanted recount before certification, etc. Nothing new.
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:19 PM
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24. Its the most coverage this has gotten on CNN without sarcasm.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:20 PM
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25. Yep, this is true
No talking heads, just straight reporting.
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:21 PM
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28. But CNN data old
GLIBS have the money they need for the recount (still collecting to pay for volunteers (food, per diem etc.) And no mention of Alliance for Democracy law suit?
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:31 PM
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37. If I'm not mistaken, I think the 25 voter lawsuit is the Alliance for
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 04:32 PM by Verve
Democracy lawsuit. Did she say that was filed? If so, that's new news! And big news at that!
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:22 PM
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29. About time
....and one month later, MSM decides to break down and do it's job.

(Or would it be 'their' job?)
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:21 PM
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26. Something must be wrong.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:21 PM
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27. This is being discussed in thread posted earlier today
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x118078
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pbartch (235 posts) Mon Dec-06-04 01:18 PM
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33. The story is on now. Blackwell stated the vote was CLEAN


what a lying sack of crap. He should be put in prison.

Man tomorrow is going to file infront of the Ohio Supremem Court tomorrow alleging WIDESPREAD FRAUD

Democratic National Committee is "looking into it"

Kerry campaign is in background

ME THINKS.................LOTS OF STUFF IS HAPPENING THIS WEEK.


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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 05:01 PM
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44. You can tell he was lying. Look how he looks to the right after he stated
that the elction was CLEAN:wtf:
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 05:09 PM
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45. Certification...
If the totals were certified by 2 pm, why didn't the Green Lib recount start right then? or the lawsuit...3 hrs not enough time? couldn't get an appt? eesh...
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:00 PM
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47. the soonest the recount can start is five days from certification,
hence the urgency behind either certification or allowing the recount before certification.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:06 PM
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48. i thought it was WITHIN 5 days of certification???
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:37 PM
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51. oh, hell, I don't know anymore...
I don't know *anything* anymore. All I know is I'm a volunteer and on the mailing list. I just hope someone tells me what to do and when to do it.

:crazy:
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:52 PM
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54. No, the legal initiation by the Greens & Libertarians had to be w/in 5
days of certification. The recount itself and when it starts is begun by Ohio's SoS unless a court forces them to start earlier.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:22 PM
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30. just saw the report
and it looks as though they are going to begin to cover the story in a responsible manner. Also said that the DNC is now involved and is going to back the investigation... Truth is on the march!!!!:bounce:
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libmeayer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:30 PM
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36. Yeaahhhh
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:53 PM
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41. I likie that phrase
THE TRUTH IS ON THE MARCH
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:24 PM
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31. Robert Novak
What a slimey slug!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:27 PM
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32. I'm encouraged by that report
As said above, it was fairly straight reporting. No snickering, condescening tone, etc.

As I noted in the referenced thread above, they mentioned Kerry going to New Hampshire over the weekend to address supporters, then going to Iowa on Friday, they mentioned him forming a PAC committee to spend his money on his agenda - health care, etc. If I didn't know any better, I'd say the man is back on the campaign trail and once again reporting for duty.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:38 PM
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38. You know, when she mentioned he was going to Iowa, I thought
That he was going there for good luck. That's where his run to the White House started.

As to the Pacs, I wonder if Kerry said this to divert attention away from the fact that he's sitting with millions, a way of not showing his hand yet, if he has to tap into all that money quickly.
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carlagirl Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:45 PM
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40. It WAS encouraging that this made CNN.........
but I thought Judy's demeanor was pretty pathetic. After the report when the camera panned back to her.......her response was so anemic, I thought she fell asleep. Oh, well. Better than nothing. Maybe the other networks will feel they have to chime in now.
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libmeayer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:29 PM
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33. What did they say, what did they say.
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carlagirl Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:56 PM
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42. CNN reported
that the vote totals went down for Bush after adding in the provisional and absentee ballots. And they talked about how the DNC and also, in a separate action, several Democratic congressmen were looking into vote fraud. All stuff we've known here on DU, but it will come as a big surprise to a lot of people that this is actually happening.

Let's see if they say something more in later editions.....
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libmeayer Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 05:15 PM
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46. So nothing of any value.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:07 PM
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56. "Value" won't come from the MSM.
Hell, if it weren't for us grassroot/underground people, they wouldn't be reporting on it at all.

The thing to remember is that most people don't know anything about this. That CNN reported on it at all is a sign that the story is too big to ignore.

:thumbsup:
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:59 PM
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43. the only "irregularity" Judy Woodruff cares about ...
is her own
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:51 PM
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53. MSM Coming Onboard?
I just heard the longest report on the events discussed on du that I've heard so far: about 1 1/2 minutes on NPR.

Short, but it's a start. We'll have to see where it goes.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:17 PM
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57. Here's the link to today's NPR story:
http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=4205260

They end with Blackwell speaking in very smooth tones, whereas they had a sound bite from the rally that sounded impassioned--i.e., a verbal rendition of the Dean Scream.

Still, they didn't call people protesting conspiracy theorists or discredit their claims (except for Blackwell pouting his BS). It's not strong, but it's a start.

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