How can we talk to 56 million democrats? The only venue

[Laura PourMeADrink]

was the convention and debates. NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times are not behind us (taking a leap to say they ever were) No TV, no CNN, no MSNBC except KO. Most of our senators and republicans aren't listening either (I sent mine demo 10 letters with no reply). The only way now is the internet,word of mouth,calls to C-SPAN, AirAmerica and the US mail. Please tell me I am wrong.

I like another DUer's idea -- get Soros to buy a network so we can tell all the Democrats their votes were stolen

[momzno1]

1. forget Soros, how much does a network cost?

lets buy a DU network!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

2. Good Idea. I'll chip in $10 bucks

[ClassWarrior]

4. You know, that's how Air America Radio started...

Carolyn Kay of makethemaccountable.com started raising funds for a media project, raised enough to get Progressive venture capitalist Sheldon Drobney involved, and he developed it to the point where it was sold to the current owner group almost ready to go on the air.

I know you two are half kidding, but we CAN do this...

NGU.

[bluedonkey]

3. Let's DU it!

I can chip in $20 :7

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

10. Instant Internet-based "TV network" on the cheap

With bandwidth and a digital videocamera, we could set up a very inexpensive Internet-based TV station using open source video streaming software like MPEG4IP or VideoLAN.

If a daily broadcast were of high enough quality, word could spread virally.

[BrightKnight]

85. deleted

[proudtobeadem]

22. Why forget Soros?

[momzno1]

47. just saying we can do this if we have enough people

and people who have experience in this area. Investors, and people on the ground. Getting the station on the cable networks and seen might be hard, but it may seem like a dream, but why not???

[BattyDem]

70. DU News ...

Repugs ... you are DUN! :evilgrin:

[Higans]

86. This is the only way we will ever be herd.

The most important discovery in Human History.
The elections are rigged. All of them are.
They don't even count paperless votes. They have trapped your Voice inside a computer. The only way to break their stupid game is to write in "peace" on paper ballots and make them count them in front of you.
Do this in every election and only Humans can be the winner.
We don't care who the puppet is, we care that the puppet is peaceful.
Send this message to every Human. Ever Man, Woman, and Child.
Send this message to your Grand Children.
This is the only way Humans will ever have peace.
We must be allowed to ask for it. Every Human wants peace.
Never again give your voice to a computer that doesn't count your vote.
Don't let them take your voice away from you.
This is the most important piece of information ever discovered.
This information can set all humans Free.
Never let your technology fool you again.
Never let them divide you into Red, or Blue, or Black, or White, or Cristian, or Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, or Pagan, or Conservative, or Liberal.
None of the issues they talk about are important enough to let them prevent you from voting for peace.
Demand Paper Ballots. demand they be counted.
Never let them steal your voice again.

[Bread and Circus]

92. I'd donate to that. P.S. my star got taken away when I changed my name.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. Class Warrior -- I think you are right. It just finally hit me -- we

are checkmated. Brilliant plan:
#1 Control the Press
#2 Do any fuckin thing we want

[myschkin]

6. the big silence

You are right, INFORMATION is power today - and we have no information channels...

I would inform Soros in any case -

and another way maybe: Just inform the media with right numbers, clearly arranged fact lists and objective speech. And never give up in this effort...

I still believe there is a lack of information in the editorial staffs (they always just see a few things but not the whole picture).

Arnebeck said it really right: If the people know about the fraud, and the media talk about it, there is now way a court can cancel this.

But the main problem (also at the past election) is: People are not informed... The main part of the nation don't know anything about these facts (Diebold, Ohio, Exit Polls a.s.l.).

[ClassWarrior]

7. Well, the other half of this equation is message...

...and the American people don't want the facts. They want to know our values. So we need to learn how to "reframe" the debate to reflect our values: opportunity, responsibility, care, hope, respect.

Visit the "Frame the Debate" forum here at DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=252

NGU.

[myschkin]

12. ...

but it would be not bad, if you can reach the other half of the people - the Democratic voters...

There would be a cry through the whole country, if just this half would know about the facts.

And suppose that these people are more than 50 % (because Kerry won)... ;-)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. You are so right ! Even good democrats I know say "Really?"

It's not about swaying everyone, let's start with our own

[proudtobeadem]

26. Exactly!

[roseBudd]

99. The majority of dems WOULD NOT watch the new network

most people are not as serious and obsessed as the average DUer.

What we can do right now is use poor man's advertising and free delivery systems, ie. DUers to spread the immediate message, that the election was fraudulent.

Right NOW we at DU CAN just like the mean girls in highschool start a whisper campaign against the chimp's reputation. How you ask? By using guerilla and viral marketing techniques. That means using unconventional means of delivering a message that creates buzz, ie viral marketing.

Do this:

download the file below and got to Kinkos and make copies.

BUSH CHEATED is color but can be printed and
photocopied B&W to save $$$. They print 2 to a sheet, so you will have to cut them.



download file here:

http://somnamblst.tripod.com/

Use the BUSH CHEATED to flyer cars or even BETTER...

Buy a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive from staples and glue the BUSH CHEATED graphic to metal utility poles, bus stop shelters, advertising benchs, newspaper racks etc. let your inner anarchist express itself. If enough people do this then the masses will become aware AND just like highschool Bush's reputation will be ruined.


This is something we can do RIGHT NOW. No dreaming just ACTION. I've started. I challenge everyone on DU to commit to disseminating at least 10 per day.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

168. Great idea. I am trying to put together a project plan - short

and long. This definitely fits my category of short term grassroots communications. See URGENT MEDIA plan post

[understandinglife]

8. Premise is correct; Get CNN to do live coverage of Rep Conyer's hearing

We need every citizen to know what the already well documented systemic disenfranchisement issues are in the still underway national election.

For starters, our fellow citizens need to know IT'S NOT OVER.

Pragmatic approach -- make sure c-span, Air America, Pacifica radio, Olbermann are all on the scene and covering Rep Conyers hearing on 8 Dec 2004. And, get someone like Aaron Brown or Lou Dobbs of CNN to be at that hearing and cover it live for CNN. We have this major opportunity on 8 Dec 2004 to force the issue into every airport, home, computer, ..., in the world. If the other networks know CNN is going to be on the scene at that hearing, they'll all be there, as well.

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"

[myschkin]

15. the idea

What about placards, advertising in newspapers (see "Firefox") a.s.l.? But you need money for this...

What about an advertising in a mainstream newspaper (full of neutral infos and email-address, website a.s.l.) - sponsored by the grassroots movement?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Yes, one of those full page ads. What about all the movie

stars - Babs, Rob Reiner, the Boss, etc. They put their hearts and money into this. Wonder how we could contact them?

[Jack Bone]

165. Press Agents

every "star" that I've ever gotten ahold of has their own Press Agent..either thru their record lables..or a PR firm...that's on the music side...I'd assume that actor's would have the same..maybe thru a studio for a director?

just tryin' to help...

[myschkin]

17. next

and win Soros as a sponsor... ;-)

Guys like Arnebeck, Jesse Jackson a.s.l. should go to him.

[IndyOp]

43. Yes! Yes! Yes!

We must make sure c-span, Air America, Pacifica radio, Olbermann are all on the scene and covering Rep Conyers (House Judiciary) hearings on 8 Dec 2004 - that is WEDNESDAY!

C-SPAN
Main Number: [phone]
Viewer Services: [phone] (for programming questions)
C-SPAN Radio: [email protected]
C-SPAN TV Suggest Events: [email protected]
 
Air America Radio
Corporate Offices: 1-646-274-4900
Email from: <http://www.airamericaradio.com/contact.asp>

Pacifica Radio
National Programming 202 588-0999
Pacifica Foundation National Office 510-849-2590 or [email protected]

Carolyn Kay (colleague of Sheldron Drobny, the co-founder of Air America Radio)
[email protected]

Democracy Now!
Call: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Submit story idea here: <http://www.democracynow.org/storyidea.pl>
Comments: [email protected]

CNN News Tips: <http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/>

Olbermann <[email protected]>

NPR - All Things Considered email: [email protected]

:bounce:

[myschkin]

53. thanks

great effort!

[proudtobeadem]

11. Was that this post?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x112668#112741

Do you think it can work?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Yes it was. We've got to do something - we have no voice eom

[jamboi]

14. We really need a network!!! n/t

[myschkin]

23. ??

It's naive to create a network. First, you have to find your audience... (see C-Span versus CNN), second, you have to give quality. Why do you think it's so difficult to launch a new magazine or tv-channel?

It's maybe a good idea for the forthcoming years, but not for this (questionable) election...

Also, an explicit partisan-channel is just interesting for partisan-people...

And it's so difficult to make a high quality channel...

[proudtobeadem]

29. It doesn't have to be Partisan ...

It just has to tell the whole truth for all americans.
And it may be difficult but not impossible, I think with as much reality TV as everyone watches I think people may be ready for some reality news. IMHO :)

[myschkin]

40. ...

<It just has to tell the whole truth for all americans.>

But who turns it on? Believe me, this is naive...

But the above idea of an internet-channel is a good idea... (although it's no concurrence for CNN a.s.l.)

[myschkin]

41. ...

you know, there are always different "truths"... (the Bushies also think they have it, also the 'moon fraud' guys, everyone can tell their truth)

[googly]

118. Very few Americans are interested in watching political news

[Wiley50]

120. If they knew what we know

they'd get real interested real fast

Wiley

[proudtobeadem]

129. Then why does Fox do so well??

[googly]

161. Cuz Fox has the constant mantra of "fair & balanced"

But even Fox's daily audience is a miniscule slice of the population.
Even the purportedly most popular radio talk show of Limpballs attracts
20 million WEEKLY, that is less than 7% of population over a whole damn week.

So are you saying this new idea of a TV/Radio station will attract numbers to make it worthwhile? Just think about it.

[proudtobeadem]

16. Yes! So if you think it's do-able lets think about how we can get this

done soon.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Does anyone know what a full page in NY or LA Times cost?

We need to get the celebrities who backed Kerry to buy some

[proudtobeadem]

21. I could check the NYT site later

[proudtobeadem]

60. I just checked NYT site but I think the rates are only for online

advertsing I don't know. Here's the link;

http://www.nytimes.com/marketing/adinfo/advertise/integrated.html

[roseBudd]

104. The George Soros ad that ran in the Cinti Enquirer 1 day cost 80K

that is a paper with only 300K circulation.

[proudtobeadem]

20. We need something BIG really BIG and that takes real money

How can we get Soros and others like him aboard?
Who/What organization can do this that is not a sellout??

[myschkin]

30. answer

You need people like Jesse Jackson, Conyer a.s.l. for this...

[proudtobeadem]

50. Maybe we should start a new thread on this where people can post

what they are able to do/contribute towards this ie...
How to find investors, who they are, contact info.
Business experts

[proudtobeadem]

52. Maybe we can start a new thread where we can post ...

what we are able to do/contribute towards this ie...
How to find investors, who they are, contact info.
Business experts....I don't know, whatever else

[momzno1]

48. we banded together to raise 150,000 for the recount in 4 days!!

we could raise enough money to do something big like a full page advertisement in a major paper. Or we could do this in all our local papers...

[Twist_U_Up]

24. you need to get everyones attention some how

I mean everyones

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. If we can get a consortium of big money demos/celebs to buy

full page ads in all the major newspapers....It would be a start - they can pay for a slick ad agency. But it can't have their names on it - some other group, carefully picked, would have to be the front. Something like "Fair Election" something...

[myschkin]

35. helpers wanted

What if we build a news/PR committee (or media taskforce) here in DC which is just concentrating on this effort? The other DC members pay... ;-)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Wonderful idea. How do we start?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Wonderful idea. How do we start?

[myschkin]

56. Post it!

Maybe you make a fresh post on the main site? I have to go to sleep... *yawn*

[understandinglife]

54. Suggest you contact MoveOn and The Alliance for Democracy...

.....and see if they will fund raise for full page ads in the NYTimes, LATimes, WaPo, ???

....and see if MoveOn would sponsor an digital media contest for a 30 sec ads -- perhaps the theme could be "Did Bush Know?" or "14 Trillion to 1: I don't think so!" or "Prove My Vote Counts" or "Cyber's fine but I prefer my democracy on paper!"......

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?" -- let's all start asking, everyone; all the time!!

[myschkin]

57. here you go

this would be sensational!

good ideas...

[Liberty Belle]

125. Have the celebs buy a news network, too

Regardless of how this turns out, we are perpetually going to have trouble if we can't get at least one major news network that slants liberal, or at least is unbiased.

As much as I hate Fox News, I can see how their ratings got so high.
Most people aren't home when the 3 major networks air their news programs. The concept of 24-hour news is a good one. CNN used to be a good choice for this, but then they sold out and went to a shorter format--just 15 minutes, then the same headline news repeats, and half of that is entertainment news and sports.
So people who wanted more news, at any hour that's convenient, switched to Fox.

If progressives could run a channel with similar 24-hour in-depth news programming, but with regular features on issues that mean something to the average family, I think it could be a big success. We could contact all of those "blue" companies listed on the "Buy Blue" thread to be advertisers.

Hey, maybe we could even hire Dan Rather to anchor it, with Bill Moyers for good measure!

Plus we could have some GREAT celebrity entertainment to lure in new viewers, just by inviting celebs who helped fund the network to do a special.

[proudtobeadem]

131. OMG I'm getting so excited I can't sit still!

[Liberty Belle]

136. CAN WE RUN AN INFOMERCIAL (LIKE ROSS PEROT DID?)

If a major network would run it during prime time (questionable) this would be the fastest way to reach the masses. Buy air time right after some popular TV show or special event, with promo ads during the earlier program hyping the upcoming special.

Or try something less obvious, since the news networks are owned by toadies for Bush. ESPN, maybe, just after a big sporting event. What's coming up, the Holiday Bowl?

[googly]

163. YES! But only if we combined our dollars into a unifying force.

Look at what we just did...we gave lots of contributions to various candidates and organizations, who are now almost universally neglecting
the election fraud issue. I would much rather contribute to DU only, and then be the owner of voting shares on how our money was to be spent.

I like the infomercial idea.

[Wiley50]

25. The Practical approach

would be to take AirAmerica from radio into TV. It already has the ball rolling. Redford already took Frankin to The Sundance Channel prior to the election.
We need to show investors how much AA has accomplished. It's the next logical step to take it forward.
Who are the owners of AA now.

Wiley

[Wiley50]

27. This has been my dream

for all of my adult life.
Everytime I am stupid enough to buy a lottery ticket, this is what I've dreamt of doing with the money.

Wiley

[proudtobeadem]

31. Good dream ! :)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. To own a tv network?? During the campaign, every time I

bought one, I fantasized about winning the Powerball and saying on tv that I would donate a lot of it to get rid of *

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. To own a tv network?? During the campaign, every time I

bought one, I fantasized about winning the Powerball and saying on tv that I would donate a lot of it to get rid of *

[proudtobeadem]

38. I like that one too!!!!

[PaulaGem]

34. Why are you worrying about talking to Democrats?

I'm not a Democrat, but I'm vitally interested in what's going on.

It wasn't Democrat votes that were stolen, it was the votes of citizens.

Some of them were Democrat, some were unaffiliated, and I bet there were even quite a few Republican votes that were meant for Kerry and got switched to Bush.

Democrats should put party second and the country first right now.

[proudtobeadem]

36. I think we are talking about 2 different things

There are two issues we need to address:
1) The stolen election & how to get the word out ASAP to the rest of america.
2) A voice that can compete with MSM to represent us long term.


On edit sorry I meant to post this to the main post.(I still have to get the hang of posting)

[marions ghost]

93. Two main media objectives.....

I agree. A two-pronged approach is in order.
--------------------

1. There is a short-term goal of "what happened" in the selections

Right now we must use any means possible. I esp like the idea of trying to get big newspaper ads in major big-city markets for the short term. Excellent idea and well worth it for the exposure. Can get that going quickly. Goes without saying to continue to create visibility on the net, and I think the ideas here on expansion on the net are right on target.

PRIORITY NUMBER 1 WILL TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION...

------------------------

2. Start immediately to visualize a new TV outlet.

If AA is one to do it, OK, but that remains to be seen. In my vision,
this outlet does not have to be perfect. Just start talking Truth. The reality TV analogy is true--a little bit rough is real. Slick is not all that desirable, although must still reach a certain standard for professionalism. I think our downtrodden audience would be so grateful, they would FORGIVE a lot?! We have been so abused by slick media presentations that it has an aversive effect after awhile. Make liberal use of artists, writers, musicians performers, comedians. Good interviews, discussions on the issues. I'd love to see this happen.

---------------------
Suggestions
Continue to discuss this. In the brainstorm period, no idea is too outlandish. Let's kick it around. We have the numbers. No need to think small. Let's write out the proposal. What do we want to see such a TV outlet consist of? Post it here. When we get that together, then we can put it out to key people. People who have the vision, not only the money (OK vision and money together would be ideal)--but vision first, then support ideas... then we could take a survey here on this site to see if others would support it.

I could go on all night on this. Have also wanted to see this happen. I hate trying to beg for crumbs from existing media when we could just create our own reality. It seems so much more postive. Not to say we shouldnt chip away at MSM, but I think we should dare to imagine....something completely different.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

94. Love it ! A fellow proj mgr. Don't forget the internet tv.

[roseBudd]

101. FYI the George Soros ad that ran in the Cinti. Enquirer for 1 day cost

$80,000. Yes that is right in a paper with only about 300,000 circulation. It was a doubletruck (2 pages connected) and as a political ad there was no discount unlike retail ads. That $80,000 ad did not put Hamilton County in the Kerry column. Neither did the Guest Editorial from a retired GOP judge listing all the reasons why he was voting for Kerry.

[marions ghost]

144. Maybe small display ads then???

Thanks for that info. Is that an average rate for similar papers? I've only had dealings with smaller papers, where even a doubletruck is relatively affordable.

Maybe we could do small display ads, with web addresses where readers could go for info and to lend support. Not try to "say it all" in the actual ad. Place such ads very strategically.


Suggested small display ad:

1. Headline -- "We the People Do Not Concede" (Bold Black)

2. Explanation -- one sentence summing up

3. Web Addresses -- for info
(they agree to be listed as a resource.)

[roseBudd]

146. The cheapest AND easiest thing an army of DUers and like minded

activists could start doing right now since time is of the essense is:


Guerilla marketing uses unconventional means of distributing a message.

Viral marketing describes any strategy that encourages individuals to pass on a marketing message to others, creating the potential for exponential growth in the message's exposure and influence. Viral marketing often comes about because of "buzz".

Before the election I was using guerilla marketing in my GOTV street canvassing. Some DUers did join me but it was not nearly enough to create media buzz. People of course were phone banking, canvassing and writing LTTES, all of which were very important before the election. Now that we have time on our hands and an army of hopefully willing participants, IMHO a brilliant way to take the next step and get the word out to those who do not frequent lefty web sites is:

What we can do right now is use poor man's advertising and free delivery systems, ie. DUers to spread the immediate message, that the election was fraudulent.

Right NOW we at DU CAN just like the mean girls in highschool start a whisper campaign against the chimp's reputation. How you ask? By using guerilla and viral marketing techniques. Do this:

download the file below and go to Kinkos and make copies.

BUSH CHEATED is color but can be printed and
photocopied B&W to save $$$. They print 2 to a sheet, so you will have to cut them.



download this and other files here:

http://somnamblst.tripod.com /

Use the BUSH CHEATED to flyer cars or even BETTER...

Buy a can of 3M Super 77 spray adhesive from staples and glue the BUSH CHEATED graphic to metal utility poles, bus stop shelters, advertising benchs, newspaper racks etc. let your inner anarchist express itself. If enough people do this then the masses will become aware AND just like highschool Bush's reputation will be ruined.


This is something we can do RIGHT NOW. No dreaming just ACTION. I've started. I challenge everyone on DU to commit to disseminating at least 10 per day.

I had hoped to plaster Columbus at the rally yesterday with both BUSH CHEATED & Blackwell RECUSE, but the wind was so bad it would have been impossible. I did however do some bus stop shelters and utility poles near campus in Cincinnati yesterday and none of my handiwork has been peeled off.

see also:

[googly]

164. I duno if breaking laws is a good idea when we are trying to promote

the rule of law regarding honest elections. Even if the lawbreaking is of the misdemeanor type such as littering public property with unauthorized posters, I do not relish the idea of breaking laws to then turn around and ask people to obey election laws.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. You're right ! Wonder why Bush isn't screaming about his

votes switching to Kerry. We have just been concentrating on Indy and Democratic votes, but if you have evidence, let us know and we will get right on that!

[jwirr]

39. What a good idea

airwaves (nationwide television network) of our own. Not just Soros, but a conglomeration of wealthy and powerful progressives plus our own donations (public partners)with advertising space for Dem-only businesses. If they do not have to be unbiased neither do we. We have the entertainers with good progressive ideas, producers, documentaries, editorialists, talk show hosts that present something besides the drivel we see on most talk shows, reporters, humorists, etc. that can make it competitive, interesting and educational all with the ideal of our democratic values in mind.

However, I do have some advise: We need to watch our language. I am not suggesting outside censorship. I am suggesting that we not forget our goal to get to the people. Thus we censor ourselves for the sake of the message. All cursing does is show our anger, it does not convince anyone to listen to our message.

I live in a small community of elderly and families of all descriptions - I live in a Democrat community in a Democrat state. In this community I continually hear objections to the language that they hear on the television, radio, read in books, newspapers and magazines. Cursing is routine in our everyday speech today and I also do it. But if I WANT to be heard in my Democrat community I have learned that the minute I reduce my message to swearing I have lost my listeners. If this is true in a Democrat community then how much more is it true when we want to preach to someone besides the choir? We need to developer programing that will keep the listener tuned in to our message not one that will turn them off.

I hardly ever listen to television anymore because the type of drama that we enjoyed in the Star Trek, Dr. Kildare, Mash days is no more.
Talk shows are full of idiots who have destroyed their own lives and we are asked to feel sorry for them. What ever happened to educated guests who talk about problems and solutions that touch all of us? What has happened to humor like "Laugh-in" and "Mash" that get a message across without saying "fuck" even once? What happened to programing that you can set down with your children and listen together? My two daughters lay on pillows at my feet watching Star Trek and to this day they are trekies. Put programing on our station that actually reflects our values of family, neighborhood and community. That will bring the people. Enough of the rant - Sorry.

[myschkin]

46. it has to be professional

"Thus we censor ourselves for the sake of the message. All cursing does is show our anger, it does not convince anyone to listen to our message."

Of course...

[proudtobeadem]

42. I think it would be easy enough to get most of Hollywood to back us

Most of them except for AAHNOLD are progressive

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. ha ha. I think so too

[myschkin]

55. -

and he is of the same country as me (no, not Australia) :-(

[googly]

122. Ahhnold is the most social moderate amongst elected repugs.

He is pro-abortion, tolerant of gays/lesbians.

[Wiley50]

123. and part of the BFEE

You know they want to change the constitution so he can run?

[googly]

162. Ahnold campaigned for Boosh what ONE time in the entire election

cycle? He was at a rally in Ohio one time, mainly because he also has
some type of body building connection there. Then he is married into a
prominent democrat family. He does not look like a typical BFEE to me.

And as for him running for president, I will take him anytime over Jerry Falwell, Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich types who are eminently qualified to run for president.

[stillcool]

49. I was just thinking about this...

today, as I was clicking for coverage in Ohio. I don't know what John Stewarts ratings are, but they've got to be up there. The problem is that you just can't get information. I wrote an email to MSNBC saying that I found out more in 5 mins. on DU, than I would learn watching them 24 hrs. Sometimes I leave on Bloomberg and just read the crawl. Considering the amount of cable channels you would think it would be a no-brainer. There is Democracy Now, but of course its not enough. Someone could sit at a desk, and read the posts from DU..slightly vetted of course....kinda like FOX.

[Wiley50]

51. Ok, But back to the subject at hand

We need to remember that it's progressives of all stripes
We need to remember not to use profane language.
A tip of the hat to you both.
Now, back to buisness.
class Warrior told us the story of early AA.
Blogger gets Sheldon Drobny interested.
Then sold to other investors.
Who are they?
I've been listening to AA since day one.
I remember they almost crashed before they got to cruising altitude.
The on-air story was they had a republican onboard who tried to sabotage the network.
Then, they reorganized and now are beating Rush,Hannity and O'Reilly
in markets where they are head to head.
So who owns them now?
What kind of money can we organize to make the transition to cable TV?
Class?
Do you know?
Does anyone know?

Wiley

[Laura PourMeADrink]

58. here's an outline -- first thing that popped up on a search

http://www.com/01-CHRONOLOGY%281-2%29.pdf#search='how%20start%20cable%20network'

[Wiley50]

61. Laura? Are you coming up with anything on that search engine? n/t

[Wiley50]

59. I just had a flash!

It would depend on the current owners of AA being more interested in changing the frame of popular culture than they are at turning a profit.
At least in the short term. Although I think there is lots of profit to be had in the long run.
We have seen the audience of AA grow wildly.
We have seen the on-air personalities raise millions for groups like Bev, Optruth, Moveon, ect ect.
Why not take the company public and use the airtime to sell penny stock to all of the listeners?
Now we're talking!
We could raise the cash for the transition.
What good is their ownership if the country becomes a fascist state and Prez Smirk and VP Snarl decide to crush all dissent.
If it doesn't grow bigger than can be contained, and fast, it won't be around long anyway.
Who are these people?

Wiley

[Laura PourMeADrink]

62. Is it just Franken that's already on Sundance?

[Carolab]

63. See if Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins could get involved

either personally or indirectly through contacts.

[proudtobeadem]

64. How do we do that? Anyone have their contact info? A couple of weeks

ago I posted an open message to a lot of celebrities that are known to be prog/dems about the fraud but I don't know if they read those.

On edit: The messages were on a site for celebs.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

66. what site?

[proudtobeadem]

72. Hold on, let me look for it

[proudtobeadem]

77. This is the site

http://www.celebrityemail.com/

[Laura PourMeADrink]

82. thanks. We need to stop and really figure out how to pursue

this effectively. When I opened the post from the non democrat on here, PaulaGem,I got a virus. I ran norton, and quaranteened and now I have 10 zillion pop-ups driving me crazy. Got to stop for a while and figure it out. Think about the best way to handle a communications with celebrity mail.

[PaulaGem]

135. You didn't get a virus from anything I did.

It sounds like you have spyware, not a virus. It came from somewhere besides here. Check out Hijack.exe and Adaware, they will come up on a search and they are free programs.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

65. Yes, Sarandon, Robbins,Reiner,Streisand,Jeanine Garafalo

Springstein,JLo's ex,etc.etc.

[Wiley50]

71. Yes, Celebs are a possibility, but

Instead of trying to raise a lot of cash in a few places (these folks have already tried to buy into AA ( only my guess ), how about the idea of getting masses of ordinary folks investing a little bit each to raise the money? Look at the money that was raised online this election cycle. A hundred million or more. Plus look at all of the money that AA has raised for groups.
Listeners would love to have a stake. Especially if it meant not only keeping AA alive, but having it grow to cable TV.
We're Dems. Don't overlook the common folk.

Wiley

[Laura PourMeADrink]

74. I agree. Look how Moveon begged for money to show

their ads.

[marions ghost]

97. Right ,listeners would love to have a stake....

Intriguing...we have the numbers. We have or can get the support. Good idea.

[jhgatiss]

109. I suggested we buy Fox....

[proudtobeadem]

133. They would NEVER sell, especially to a progressive group.

[Liberty Belle]

132. Oprah, Steven Speilberg, Rob Reiner

[pilgrimsoul]

67. This might be a crazy idea...

but BET network and other black-run media outlets might be an option worth pursuing. Can you imagine a BET show with Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton telling it like it is and getting the voter fraud info out to the people? BET has its own daily newscast, I believe, and there are also several AA interest magazines with a large readership. If we can get these media venues to air info on the vote fraud issue, especially since black folks are the main victims of voter disenfranchisement, it might succeed in breaking the media lockdown and force mainstream outlets to begin covering this issue in earnest. It also could play a major role in jump-starting the kind of large scale protests we need to get people's attention. Think of this strategy as the left's answer to the religious right's use of CBN/700 Club to reach its core audience. I really believe this could have an impact.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

68. I think it's a great idea!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. think we need three plans.

short term: raise funds to get in the print media asap

intermediate: pursue current sympathetic cable tv venues (like BET) and internet tv

long term: start our own progressive cable tv

[proudtobeadem]

73. EXACTLY !!!!

[marions ghost]

98. Thirding that idea

Good plan laurapyb.

[proudtobeadem]

76. LETS TAKE BACK THE AIRWAVES!!!!

Like another poster said above, if we raised 250,000 in a little over a week imagine what we could do short and long-term with the right back-up!!!

[Liberty Belle]

134. 4th goal: Buy stock in a network and take it over!

CBS, NBC, ABC and their parent companies are ALL publicly owned. I'm not sure about Fox. Does someone know how to research the total stock value of these companies? Imagine if we could become majority shareholders in one of them, with some big bucks from the celebs and billionaires. Getting a network already watched by lots of people would guarantee instant widespread viewership, though cost would be huge.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

167. Good thought -- maybe the goal should be get on cable /tv by

the best means possible (1)buy in (2)startup (3)convert radio to cable

[Pepper32]

105. Bingo, this is one of the BEST ideas I have read so far n/t

[Wiley50]

75. Yes. Celebs are a possibility but,

Instead of trying to raise a lot of cash in a few places (these folks have already tried to buy into AA ( only my guess ), how about the idea of getting masses of ordinary folks investing a little bit each to raise the money? Look at the money that was raised online this election cycle. A hundred million or more. Plus look at all of the money that AA has raised for groups.
Listeners would love to have a stake. Especially if it meant not only keeping AA alive, but having it grow to cable TV.
We're Dems. Don't overlook the common folk.

Wiley

[Wiley50]

79. Take this election cycle as a template

Look at what was raised with small donations.
But instead of donating, how about buying a piece of the Rock n Roll?

Wiley

[proudtobeadem]

80. That was what I was thinking, a combo of Big money, merging or

growing an existing Co, and money from the little people so we can keep them honest. Sort of like PBS but much more flashy like the MSM and for that we would need the endorsement of Celebs.

[Wiley50]

83. The Celebs are in place

Frankin, Garofalo,Randi, Laura, Malloy, R.F. Kennedy
Who owns Air America?
I want to know.

Wiley

[marions ghost]

147. More flashy OK

Right, more "flashy" than PBS or C-Span stodgy style. I think you mean more visual, more dynamic, more entertaining, more humor. I agree.

However I caution against being overly slick--backing off from the extremely frenetic, mind blowing visuals. We would want this to appeal to all ages, and to those with longer attention spans.
(please no ads with trucks careening around maniacally splashing mud. I see those bearing down on me in my sleep) Do use creative graphics and animations--get some really talented visual and sound artists on board. Good documentaries, too--more of those will be coming out.

The door is wide open for a much more refreshing, faster-paced, more entertaining style even as it gives us progressive news and info we can trust. I think there is great opportunity in this concept.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. still search on cable tv start up - but here's a link on

internet tv
http://www.tvpredictions.com/internettv111804.html

[Wiley50]

81. Michael Moore's revenues

come from millions of ordinary people paying 10 bucks a pop to see his film.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

91. Here's the Air America Owners Info

http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradionews/a/aa050804a.htm


gotta go - when I opened the post from the non-democrat PaulaGem it instantly gave me a virus. I have it quaranteened but the pop-ups are driving me crazy. Gotta fix now.

What do you mean -- you have the celebs??? Who are you????

[Wiley50]

96. AirAmerica has the Celebs n/t

[Wiley50]

100. Sorry, that's who USED to own it.

They ere big time radio syndicate guys. They owned radio stations from here to guam.
But they are gone.
Who owns them now?

Frankin talks like he bought in in order to save the network.If that is true probably Janeanne and others did too.

Wonder if SEC.GOV has it available

Going there.

Wiley

[Laura PourMeADrink]

103. Another Link

http://www.professorbainbridge.com/2004/06/air_america_the.html

[Laura PourMeADrink]

84. I like your "People's Network" approach. I was just thinking

too that it would be good to not even have it be partisan like someone else mentioned. Since they are all owned by big biz now, why not a citizen-owned network pledged to the truth? Guess that might be too much like C-SPAN, huh. But they don't really have news. The Truth Network could be just news -- ALL NEWS.

I don't know, I'm out til tomorrow

Keep up the creativity!!!

[pilgrimsoul]

89. I'd love to see a show called "No Spin News"

My only concern about a citizen-owned network would be that religious wingnuts could also buy in and infiltrate the decisionmaking process. I don't know how to counteract that without imposing some sort of restrictions on who can participate. Not trying to rain on the parade here -- just thinking out loud.

[proudtobeadem]

95. You're right, that's one thing to get around -I don't know, but your title

"No spin news" reminds me too much of O'reilly.

[pilgrimsoul]

112. Ugggh!!!

Then let's scrap that name. That guy is the antithesis of what we're trying to accomplish!

[proudtobeadem]

113. I know, He makes my skin crawwwl !!

[Liberty Belle]

138. Keep it privately owned. Don't go public.

Vet the board to be sure only progressives are picked.

Have a charter that prohibits airing any ads that have hate messages, preach discrimination, etc.

[Wiley50]

90. I need to know who owns AA

They would be the logical approach.
The infastructure is already there.
So the stockholders split the stock and sell off the other half to ordinary joes.
Sounds like a plan to me.

No sense starting from scratch if we don't have to.

We need to get this up rolling fast.

Who are these people?
I'll approach them if we don't have someone more qualified.

Wiley

[msgadget]

87. Soros isn't our rich uncle!

But, otherwise, I'm with ya.

[BrightKnight]

88. Why not? Armature Ham radio operators launch satellites.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/sats/echo/

PayPal is a very powerful tool.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

102. As Marions Ghost suggests -- Brainstorm ON !!!

And like Proudtobeadem suggests we can start some specialized threads

This can be the brainstorming thread and then we can figure out how to organize threads and activities by short term, intermediate, and long term goals

[Wiley50]

106. I'm Game!

Let's not let this thing sink and die.
It may need a few kicks for a good cause.
But, we're good at that

Wiley

[proudtobeadem]

107. Great idea!!!

[proudtobeadem]

108. This is just an observation, so correct me if I'm wrong...

Lately I've been checking out a lot of Dem/Prog websites, radio stations, etc..( like I said I'm new to all this) and It just seems to me that there is a lot of money and good energy out there but it is too spread out. I think if a few of these media merged and went on TV, their message would pack much more of a punch because it would reach more people. Think about how corporate america has taken over everything -unfortunately that's what would have to be done to really get our message out there.

[BrightKnight]

110. I am not aware of any large TV presence.

It might be possible to acquire a small broadcast network. A number of religious groups have done this with grassroots money. Once the seed has been planted foundations might get involved. The left really needs a voice.

Also, how expensive would it be to start a cable TV station?

The content has to come from somewhere. Air America was on Sundance for while.

Why not involve religious organizations? The repugs don't own God. Jesus was a liberal.

[proudtobeadem]

111. I'm a democratic christian, believe me there's plenty of us around

This BS about moral values being played up in the media was just Rove's idea to cover up the fraud.

[pilgrimsoul]

114. I'm not experienced with any of this...just thinking out loud...

but if AA were to seriously consider founding a cable tv network, it could be useful to speak with some people involved with the larger, better organized Dem PACs. They have smart, motivated people who are very experienced with production and advertising, and they have valuable contacts with major donors who might be interested in investing in a progressive tv network. We could also target corporate donors early on to gauge potential advertising revenue for the network. We need a good businessperson to do some economic feasibility research and a lawyer to look into the most advantageous form of business organization to take.

Involving the PACs at the ground level could help us quickly establish the finance and tv production infrastructure to get the ball rolling. It would also provide a convenient way for different PACs/interest groups to coordinate their goals and priorities -- a sort of grassroots progressive brain trust, if you will -- all focusing their efforts in one direction and cooperating with one another. And our network could be the hub of it all. This could be enormously helpful in terms of framing the issues proactively and creating a consistent, accessible message for the party and our candidates. This would in turn give the network a unique "brand"
and easily recognizable identity.

The network could have a board of directors represented by a diverse group of likeminded individuals and organizations involved with its organization and operation - corporate and individual investors, PAC representatives, prominent activists, respected retired journalists (Walter Kronkite, anyone?), former democratic presidents and/or cabinet members, celebrities, and so on.

Hell yeah, get Al Gore on an investigative show dedicated to environmental issues! Give Jimmy Carter an international politics and diplomacy show! Let's have a weekly panel that discusses what's *really* going on with America's economy and what people can do to protect themselves from being shorn like sheep every time the stock market tanks. Let's put Randi Rhodes and Al Franken on tv asking the tough questions and discussing the controversial issues the MSM media is too timid to touch and get Americans thinking for themselves again! It's time America relearned what it means to connect the dots. Let's get some progressive children's programming on the air that teaches them acceptance and critical thinking! Let's show America that liberalism is the ULTIMATE family value!

[Wiley50]

117. You! can speak the language

I like you already!
Have you finished reading Sheldon Drobny's article yet?
You wanna be the "Face Man" for this?
How do we reach him?

Wiley

[proudtobeadem]

119. Hi pilgrimsoul, sounds to me like know more than you say. I think this

is something that can really be done. It should have been done long ago (maybe then we wouldn't have the b** problem now).

[Wiley50]

121. AirAmerica is a natural

They already have the ball rolling
Just add
A camera or two and some lights
and
enough capital
to buy a cable channel
But the money is out here
it just needs to involve us all
instead of just a few capitalists

Wiley

[proudtobeadem]

128. You know the more I think of it, the more

this seems like a war we're in. And what is one of the first things the army does in a war? Take over the airwaves!!!

[Wiley50]

137. Yep! before they take them over even more

[Wiley50]

115. I've been researching AirAmerica

It seems they had a rockier start-up than I had imagined but,it also seems that they have it much more under control now.
The concept was born of a fellow named Sheldon Drobny, who,initially sold it to less than reliable people. In June, these people almost killed it in its infancy. Mr Drobny, along with a group of investors, the re-purchased it.
Mr. Drobny is an occasional contributor to Op-ed News and shortly after the election wrote a scathing article on the electronically fraudulent election.
Here's the link:
http://www.opednews.com/drobny_110904_election_investigation.htm

This article is well worth the read regardless of potential result.

It seems to me that, if approached with a workable idea, he might be very open to the cause here in this thread.

Does anyone know how to come up with contact info for him?

Wiley

[Wiley50]

116. Come on! wegotta kick this one! n/t

[Liberty Belle]

126. kick! kick! kick!

[myschkin]

143. Difference

With a TV-channel you just reach your own people - with an advertising in a newspaper you reach everyone (if they want to see it or not).

[googly]

124. I am now convinced all of us DU'ers have made a huge mistake

by pissing away our valuable dollars to various candidates, BBV, Michael Moore, etc. etc. Where has that got us? Getting our butts kicked by fraud which no one is now paying attention to.

Instead if we had donated all our funds to create a political outfit, we would have the power of money behind us to become a player. We could have radio, tv or newspaper, whatever media will give our agenda the best exposure. Only if we have this power will the politicians will give us attention.

Ok we blew it for 2004. We don't have the money and organization to expose the fraud thrown at us by Bush. But if we begin channeling our
resources now for the next election (and many more to come) we have a much stronger voice.

The best way to accomplish this goal is to sell shares for the ownership in this venture. $10 buys 1 share. So everyone contributing feels they have a direct stake in the success of this project.

[Wiley50]

127. There isn't time. Dissent is planning to be crushed

as we speak by the BFEE.
If we don't stand up now for this mess, in 4 years we're really gonna be toast.

Wiley

[Laura PourMeADrink]

142. Good Morning! Where are you guys? It's only 7:52a in DC

[googly]

158. I will agree with you if we succeeed, but if we fail miserably at

exposing fraud, we must engage our brains and realize that there
is power in unity and that power is exemplified by uniting our
monetary power into one cohesive force to be reckoned with.

I am heartbroken to see that we are just hopelessly flailing away
to expose election fraud. Why? because we lack money and unity.
The protest rally in Ohio yesterday brought in what 400-600 people?
Which MSM is giving our cause attention? Take KO away and we have
close to zilch. And KO is only a small, make it very small player in
terms of audience.

The surest way to continue failure is to not recognize the causes of failure and make a change in direction.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

166. I agree. Its dawning on a lot of people "what if we had done this

or that. BUT we didn't so we have to change directions,like you said. Long term, we have to create our own vehicle to have our voices heard - we can not really depend on anyone except ourselves. Short term, we still need to get into action, the best we can, immediately.

[Liberty Belle]

130. Here's a list of billionaires. Which ones are Dems?

Forbes List of 500 billionaires worldwide:
http://eneyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/List%20of%20billionaires

How about Oprah Winfrey? Steven Speilberg?
Ralph Lauren is on the list, too. Didn't I see Lauren products on the "Buy Blue" list? Warren Buffet is second only to Gates, much more money than anyone else. I think he may be a Dem.

Someone please check this list against Kerry supporters and Democratic Party donors.

[proudtobeadem]

139. I don't know maybe we can find out from

voter reg. rolls? Articles showing they support us??
I'm tired, I'm going to bed Goodnight all see you tommorrow. :)

[proudtobeadem]

140. I have a name for it!!

The Eagle News Channel
The Eagle would represent Freedom of speech.
It would also represent Patriotism at the same time so that it's not targeted as a anti- US Org.
I was in bed thinking about taking back the airways, and thinking ,maybe tommorrow I'll start a thread "Operation taking back the airways -partII"
Airways led to swooping down which led to Eagle.
And think of it, the fox is supposed to be sly (Gee, I wonder where they got the idea)

[proudtobeadem]

141. kick

[Laura PourMeADrink]

145. URGENT:Media Project Plan -Let's FOCUS first on objectives!

Good Morning Everybody !!!
Once we agree on these objectives, we can begin to form a committee structure and develop associated activities. Please review and comment:


Objectives
1. To IMMEDIATELY develop a short term message and communicate that message to the people that the election was stolen via the most effective and expedited means available:
(a)print media
(b)sympathethic cable outlets
(c)radio
(d)grassroots on the ground and
(e)any other means determined.

2. To develop an INTERMEDIATE message and goal in the event that an invalid inauguration proceeds.

3. To develop a LONG TERM message and goal to insure our voices are heard and To determine the best platform for delivering this message:
(a) Feasibility and pitch to take AA to Cable
(b) Feasibility and pitch for cable Start-up
(c) Feasibility and pitch for Internet TV

[marions ghost]

150. I move to move on your 3-point strategy, laurapyb

These objectives are right on target.
And you are so right--the Intermediate message and goal is crucial. We need an "emergency" strategy if the inauguration happens. We'll get some lead time there, but not much. Need to brainstorm that point #2.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

152. URGENT: NEED VOLUNTEER TEAM LEADS TO ORGANIZE

ORCHESTRATE AND EXECUTE EACH OBJECTIVE.

May I suggest that once we have team leads, then each start a thread entitled "Short term, Intermediate, and Long Term Media Plan" or probably something catchier than that. Then we can further subdivide under and create an organized way to capture:
(1)DU Volunteers to SIGN UP HERE as committee members
(2)POST Leads on Possible Outside DU Resource Contacts HERE
(3)POST OUR Message Ideas HERE
(4)POST Funding ideas HERE

[myschkin]

156. Concentration

Laura, we need a staff which is just concentrating on the effort for full page advertising in newspapers - sponsoring, contact to famous persons a.s.l.

We should not split our forces...

Why don't you make a post on the front side?!

We have to act now. The creation of an own network is more a long-termed effort... Underground grassrouts activities are already going on...

Let's concentrate first and in one single thread on the advertising effort. This is a BIG next step. We have first fighting against fraud and then build up some own media...

[myschkin]

157. further

This full page advertising should be serious (not fanatic) and more "Kerry"-style... Let's keep out some - unsure - conspiracy theories à la Madsen... Just hard prooved facts.

- Exit Polls discrepancy
- Glitches which are going 95 % in favour of Bush...
- Warren County lockdown
- Berkeley Study
- BBV

a.s.l.

Let's make an advertising campaign!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

160. Yes!!! Look for my new post and sign up to be a lead!!!!

[proudtobeadem]

170. Hi myschkin, What does a.s.l. mean?

[myschkin]

172. sorry

and so long. We say here etc. in Europe. Maybe a bit old fashioned my english... :-/

What's the right word?

Am I creating the english language new?

[proudtobeadem]

173. Thanks I'm kinda new :)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

159. I agree wholeheartedly. What you describe is the Short Term

Media Plan in my Urgent post. I have been waiting for someone to step up to lead, organize this effort. No takers so far. This plan will have many activities that I am starting to work on already. I will do what you suggest - start a thread on the short term plan asap.

[myschkin]

171. media plan

Laura, I think your request is a bit "hidden" here in this thread - that's why I made a new thread (see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x115059

I'm not 100 % proof in the english language (I am german speaking) - hope I made no fault...

This is also the reason why I cannot take the lead... ;-) (It's a bit far from here in Europe)

BTW, be free to make an own thread if this is not ok...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

175. PLEASE EVERYONE: I hate to ask this, everyone has

wonderful ideas. I am a frustrated project manager and I want to do like Karyn says, to organize all these efforts. Please post to my new post GOAL 1: URGENT: THIS FOR IMMEDIATE MEDIA BLITZ ACTION PLAN.

[myschkin]

177. -

I just don't find it... :-/

Maybe you form a team, if you are a project manager. ;-) I think you have the right feeling for it...

Go for it.

[proudtobeadem]

178. Hi, I think the people that were on this thread

last night will probably show up later. They are probably night people. Like me -I just got up. (I am trying to change my sleeping schedule before I start my new job soon -but it's hard) \
I know your excited and ready to go, but just give it a little time.
I am thinking about what I can do/can contribute before I post.

[proudbluestater]

148. There already ARE two independent networks on satellite!

Free Speech TV and LINK TV. (LINK TV is associated with Harry Belafonte.)

If you all could just dump cable and get Dish Network (because Direct TV is owned by Rupert Murdoch and it does not carry Free Speech TV), you could see both these channels.

Go to their web sites and see if you like what you see. Both networks have a show called Democracy Now with Amy Goodman. Every single day she does a story on vote fraud. She is not afraid to take on the government. She will show you the horrors of war that the propagandist stations will not show.

They also have special broadcasts where Amy interviews folks like Noam Chomsky.

Also on Free Speech is a show called Gay America where they do a weekly show with issues of interest to Gays. I daresay this is the only network that would dare have such a show.

Go to democracynow.org, freespeechtv.org or linktv.org

These networks/shows are supported by US, like PBS used to be. They are all progressive.

I dumped cable in the fall. I now have Dish for less money than cable with additional networks to boot.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

149. Thanks! These are Great ideas! I put this in the category

of determining the best vehicles for getting out the short term message. Thanks

[trudyco]

151. yes Flood freespeechtv.org contact url with requests

for coverage of the rallies and the unofficial congressional hearing this week!

Anybody have access to Greg Palast? Wouldn't it be great if he published a pamphlet we could get from amazon.com or something that had all the essentials like the 20 things Americans should know (I'd add a few like if 5 congressmen won their elections in 2002 by the exact same number). It should have a reproducible 1-2 pager at the back that you could photcopy and handout. Something easy to read so even a newspaper can understand it.

Then he publish it so its available immediately.

I still think we should be canvassing some of these funny precincts. See if people are willing to swear they voted for Kerry.

trudyco

[lonestarnot]

153. We definitely need a resource in the idiot box!

I'm in on this venture.:kick:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

154. Thanks! I'm from TX too working in DC -love your user name

I wish I had picked blueintx

[lonestarnot]

155. Sorry to disappoint...read name again...

Arizona

[Laura PourMeADrink]

169. Oh, thought it meant - I'm from Texas, but I'm not proud of that

[lonestarnot]

179. I'm not the only star who believes election stolen

and I'm not from Tejas, but 1/2 family is...Texas can't be all bad, just very bad people at top with their redistricting and gerrimandering (sp). Hook 'em horns!

[KaryninMiami]

174. Here's how we can reach 52 Million Democrats!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x115108

This was posted this morning from Progressive Democrats of Amercia. Read his post- they are putting the coalition together. We need to support them and get behind their efforts!!!


Hey folks,


Kevin from PDAmerica.org here. We are in DC right now giving a presentation to 26 coalition partners to mobilize them around the issue of the voting fraud in ohio. We are getting them to pack the hearings on wed. We came together and pulled funds together to get a “state of the art” action software in which we will be utilizing to help get the word out to the media, members of congress, etc.

I am having staff write up the actions now.

I am in a break out session now to task out the techy stuff, and will be there for the next few hours.

This will be a huge blitz campaign starting tomorrow. Conyers is sticking his neck out again (like in 2000) and PDA and its activist base, and YOU will be there to support him. We want to get the buzz about this far and wide, so that Conyers can take the hearing TO OHIO!

We want to hear from you.. the activists as well

Draft your best Letter to Congress to urge members to join in on this action. Get them to attend the hearings on Wednesday (see details here: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120404W.shtml )

Ask them to sign on to the GAO Letter calling for the investigation!

Then draft a letter to the media urging them to cover this!

We are taking several letters from the grassroots, several from our staff, several from policy wonks, and want several from you all to go to our committee. We will then use those for an urgent action we hope to put online tonight.

So you all... the best letters ... bring them on.. post them here please!!!! we got the back end of the software online thus far. And will be in several meetings to finalize it. Time is a wasting! We need to hear from you! The online grassroots!

Please write your best letter!

Peace,
Kevin Spidel
National Field Director
Progressive Democrats of America
http://www.pdamerica.org

[Laura PourMeADrink]

176. PLEASE CONTINUE THIS THREAD UNDER MY NEW POST

GOAL 1: URGENT IMMEDIATE BLITZ ACTION PLAN

[Hobbes199]

180. This site gets about 2.5 million hits a day...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=105797

[OnionPatch]

181. Celebs

I applaud the things they did but I'm not pinning my hopes on them....Why hasn't someone with some big bucks started a news channel already? Anyone who hasn't figured out that the main problem is the media, and we need our own news channel, is a moron.
And the notion that there isn't an audience or that it would flop is totally absurd! We're talking about 50% of the country that does not identify with what's out there. Look at how Olbermann's ratings took off recently and Air America's listenership is off the charts. The audience is there and dying for more.
Sorry if I'm in a bad mood this morning but your talking about getting celebs doing this is naive. They'd rather just move off the France or Canada.
Sorry to be so negative.