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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:51 PM
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Election will bring another Grit minority: Klein (ROFLMAO)
Alberta Premier Ralph Klein predicts Canada will be left with another minority Liberal government if the Opposition forces an election in the new year.

Speaking in Halifax on Wednesday as part of a cross-Canada speaking tour, Klein said he doesn't see many changes in the political landscape after an expected federal election in January.

The outspoken Conservative premier said it's unlikely the federal Conservatives will gain much ground because they won't be able to win enough support in vote-rich Ontario.

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When asked earlier in the day by reporters on how to deal with candid, off-the-cuff remarks by politicians like Klein, MacKay said two words: "Duct tape."

more, oh so much more, lol

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051123/klein_election_051123/20051124?hub=Canada

I distinctly remember Klein causing Harper major headaches during the last election when he went on about privatizing health care and said the faux Cons supported it as well. It was the bald-face truth which the faux Cons were trying desparately to avoid being vocalized publicly. Now this, I am enjoying this immensely.

Anyone get the strong impression that Klein despises Harper??? :rofl:

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 02:35 PM
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1. Yup.....he does seem to have a habit of putting his foot in Harper's mouth
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 02:39 PM by glarius
a lot!...LOL....:)
P.S....I'm watching Question Period and the more I see Harper and his minions, the more they seem to mimic the right wing Republicans in the U.S.A....I understand some of Harper's people have gone down to meet with these Republicans on several occasions....Probably to get pointers on playing dirty....IMO
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 05:55 PM
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2. He's quite refreshing...
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 05:56 PM by V. Kid
..I remember him saying how he'd do anything to help Stephen Harper win a minority. Then he said, "well I won't go knocking on doors, but I'll speak for him." Or something to that effect. Precisely why they won't win! :rofl:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 09:20 PM
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3. It's been a long time since I lived in Edmonton, but
I could never conceive of Klein as a rabid Harper/"Conservative" supporter.

Kinda like trying to define the relationship between Al Qaeda and Saddam? I dunno. Just talking outta my ass.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:42 PM
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4. LOL, in some ways a very apt comparison!
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 01:42 AM
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5. Apparently he was orginally a capital-L Liberal...
...but since he was in Alberta it was just easier to become a (Progressive) Conservative.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 03:05 PM
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6. Liberal majority ahead?
Liberal majority ahead?
Poll puts party well ahead of Tories Gomery backlash apparently fading

OTTAWA—The Liberals are heading into the election campaign with a majority victory in sight and a lead of almost 10 percentage points over the second-place Conservatives, a new Toronto Star poll says.

Recovering from the negative impact of Justice John Gomery's sponsorship report, the Liberals stand at 38.7 per cent of voter support, while the Conservatives have 29.4 per cent and New Democrats have 16.9 per cent, according to EKOS Research Associates Inc.

The Bloc Québécois, which fields candidates only in Quebec, has 10.6 per cent while the Green Party stands at 3.9 per cent support among decided voters.

The opposition parties are poised to defeat the Liberal minority on Monday.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1132960213015&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154

Now if 40 Conservatives happen to get stranded next week or just happen to have eaten bean sprouts.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 04:30 PM
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7. Interesting! Those numbers are close to the last election results
Results from last election

National Election Results
LIB 135 36.7 %
CON 99 29.6 %
BLOC 54 12.4 %
NDP 19 15.7 %
GRN 0 4.3 %
IND 1 0.5 %
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:33 PM
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8. Agree That Interesting Results
Could come out of the next election.

I looked at the last election results from BC a couple of days ago and there were quite a few ridings where the Liberals and NDP could have won over the Conservatives. This election might move some of those votes into another camp.

With the softwood lumber issue hitting BC the most it is an import item and one that the NDP doesn't seem capable of utilizing. So until someone can pick up the ball it all seems quite a toss up.

For a second week in a row "The House" commented on the Liberals and David Orchard in talks, although there is nothing in MSM about this..

An article that I just found on the internet is quite informative on the softwood lumber dispute.(If it is too long then just go to the end.) From the date it appears that it was published in 2002.


THE NAFTA AND THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER DISPUTE:
WHAT KIND OF CANADA-US PARTNERSHIP?

Softwood lumber has constituted the second most important Canadian export sector after automotive products and one of Canada’s largest industries. British Columbia and Quebec account respectively for about 60 and 20 per cent of Canadian lumber exports. In 1999, Canadian exports of softwood lumber to the United States amounted to C$ 10.7 billion, accounting for 70 per cent of Canada’s lumber production.8 Trade disputes in agricultural and commodity products, as is the case with softwood lumber, often take a further political dimension as they affect large numbers of citizens, often concentrated within regions, which make their votes count even more. In Canada, it has been estimated that more than 300,000 workers have been directly or indirectly affected by the conflict,and 350 communities have been dependent on the forest sector as their primary source of employment.9

Concluding Remarks

As to the essential problem for Canada of its exports to the United States being liable to retaliatory measures, it was clear by the mid-1980s that the definitions of ‘dumping,’ ‘subsidy,’ ‘injury,’ and ‘industry’ in US law and practice had become sufficiently flexible to accommodate virtually any petition for trade remedy. Despite the results of successive multilateral trade negotiations, such definitions remain sufficiently elusive to allow US authorities considerable leeway to impose retaliatory measures. Canadian industries should thus be aware that continued access to the American market depends critically on not exceeding some explicit or implicit market share. That market forces are responsible for shifts in market share does not appear to be a sustainable defense before US authorities, at least in politically visible cases such as Softwood Lumber.72

http://www.unites.uqam.ca/gric/pdf/Cahier_Gagne.pdf

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