I'm so sick of the DU posts

[Justyce]

calling Texans ignorant redneck hicks, etc., because they don't like Perry. Hell, none of us like Perry or we wouldn't be on DU. Why is it always okay to insult Texans/Southerners here?! So frustrating. :grr:

[blogslut]

1. All I can say is

...try to be strong because it's just going to get worse.

Personally, I intend to have many funz spreading the truth about that dumb fucker.

[roguevalley]

15. Welcome to our world, OP. Alaska + Palin. Their state will get its turn

it always does.

[kentauros]

21. I understand that, and certainly see y'all get some of the vitriol.

However, there's a long history of Texas in the media, be it movies, books, or television. It's kind of in the psyche of the country if not the world. While some great stories have taken place in Alaska, you probably won't find as many "common folk" that can name those stories. Whereas if you mention Daniel Boone or The Alamo, people know those icons.

At the same time, people seem to remember our idiots more than our geniuses. And that stigma seems to go back decades, if not further. Really, I've never seen more people take us apart with any "factoid" they can find, other than Florida. There's some underlying hatred for us and forgiveness isn't in their vocabulary, much less their hearts.

[Marnie]

25. Yeah but we have been the most hated state in the US

at least for the last 65 years.

[sonias]

2. Just the beginning

We've always been second class members of DU since bushie was perceived to be a typical Texan. It's going to get much, much worse.

I'm mad right along with you. :mad:

[WolverineDG]

5. We should form the Texas Underground contingent of DU nt

[kentauros]

7. Well, I'm a part of that group already!

:hi:

[Marnie]

23. I do miss Molly.

She would be having a blast over Perry's running, and would finally be getting the national attention she should have gotten writing about Bush.

The good die young, and she was a classic.

[ellenrr]

41. I got that when I lived in Texas from some people in the northeast but

really...anyone who would hold every person in TX responsible for Perry or Bush is a complete idiot, I would say - ignore them.

I live in NJ now. Does that mean I am like Christie the shmuck?

no - it's an idiotic way to think.

Or the southern states - people who think every single person in the south is a racist or ignorant or backward. Right! like we don't have racist ignorant backward people in the northeast, or the mid-west.

that argument has no logic whatsoever.

[kentauros]

42. The big problem on DU is that we have a large contingent

that are holding a grudge against Texas for the likes of the Bush family, Tom Delay, the oil companies including Enron, and probably Dallas and Oswald for what happened in 1963. Some people simply cannot forgive, much less have the word in their vocabulary. I've argued with far too many of them that think exactly in this manner. I know that kind of thinking isn't rational, but that's the way of life for the forever-angry, unapologetic and unforgiving.

[onestepforward]

3. This surprised me too when I started reading DU

I thought repubs where the ones who painted with a broad brush, not my fellow Dems. :shrug:

The good news is that Perry will now be under a national microscope and he will have to answer questions, unlike his last run for Gov. when he didn't even bother with a single debate and got away with it.

:hi:

[Marnie]

24. Sorry to disillusion but most Americans are stewpid

enough to believe of Texas what they are fed through the TeeVee IV.

Just a reminder libs and progressives, it was a bred and born and buried Texan who passed the Equal Rights Amendment, and the Voter's Rights Amendment.

Yeah, LBJ may have talked funny but it's his born in Texas legacy the Yankee Repubs are dismantling.

So maybe you might what to stifle your own prejudices and try to be inclusive of all regions of the country so that we can get our candidates elected in the South other rural areas, like Dallas, and Houston. Texas has a lot of seats in the house and a lot of votes in the electoral college.
Learn to love us because you need us.

(Born in Texas lived there for 60 years hope to go home and die in Texas, 'cause the rest of the world just don't feel like home.)

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[tammywammy]

6. It's only going to get worse

:(

Alert, alert, alert.

[Vogon_Glory]

8. Something to point out to folks from other states

Why did you Pennsylvanians elect Pat Toomey to be your US Senator? Why did you Floridians elect Rick Scott to be YOUR governor? And why did Wisconsin voters sack Russ Feingold and put in that Johnson dude?

We are all aware of that Molly Ivins quote about the Texas Legislature being the national laboratory for really bad ideas. It looks like a lot of their work has been outsourced since 2001.

:dem:

[WolverineDG]

9. The initial call to arms

shot across the bow, the "come & take it" moment...too bad things haven't changed (much) since then....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=180&topic_id=56997

dg

[Ishoutandscream2]

10. Yep, it's begun

Such fine, good liberals on DU. They would hear my so-called Texas drawl and instantly dislike me.

[WolverineDG]

11. wait until they school you on how to use the word "y'all"

:spray: :rofl:

ah jeez.

dg

[vercetti2021]

12. Being from Texas

I know we're stereotyped because of our accents and love of guns. Which i have none of either, but Perry makes us look like a bunch of religious crazies.

[jimlup]

13. It's OK many here realize that Rick Perry and Texas are not the same

We know that their are Dems in Texas working hard to turn things around. Keep the faith and know that many don't do the name calling thing.

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[DirkGently]

16. Will the state which is free of idiocy please stand up? Anyone?

[ellenrr]

43. eggs-zackly!

[kentauros]

17. Anyone care to back me up here?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4960030&mesg_id=4960229

I've been "schooled" on the idea that Texas is, indeed, like a Third World Country outside of the cities :eyes:

[plumbob]

18. Just posted a tidbit about the $89 million performing arts center

being completed here in Odessa, which is far west of the I35 corridor and so should qualify as "outside the cities".

Threw in a little free meth in Oregon comment, too. When we traveled up there a few years ago, I never in my life saw so many people without teeth living in the woods with little visible infrastructure.

[Justyce]

19. I replied a couple of times, but it's hardly even worth it.

Apparently comparing Texas to a third world country is just fine & they will even argue the fact with you... :banghead:

[kentauros]

20. I know what you mean.

I just replied to that one, asking him to look at a map for area-comparisons. I know that won't happen, but I have to try.

One personal observation I've noted lately is about DUers in the NW. Many (not most or all) of the male posters are quite anti-South and anti-Texas in their comments. Whereas many of the women that live in the NW are not. I don't know why it's this way, but it's an observation that is all to often proven correct over and over. I'll have to ask the two women I know that live there (and are not on DU) if they've ever noticed such sentiments, too.

[Marnie]

22. Absolutely agree

But Yankees live by stereotype. That is the limit of the intellectual capacity.

Just in case you thought "Reconstruction" ended, it hasn't.

It is the hatred that flows out of the north and E & W coasts that makes it easy to argue for secession, and continues to make it virtually impossible for the Democratic party to be acceptable in the South and in the Hicksvilles of rural America.

You know rural and southern America, the places that send the highest percentages of the their sons to die protecting our presumed world leadership?

[tammywammy]

26. Here's a good thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x746260

Asking for our opinions on Perry.

[WolverineDG]

27. Is I smart enough to has one?

You know how some DUers are, thinking that all us'n down here are dumber than a box of rocks & all.

;)

dg

[tammywammy]

30. Of course we're all morons here.

That's why we don't leave Texas for bluer pastures. lol

I think while realizing we're in for a long 15+ months of Texas bashing (assuming Perry gets the nod), it's good to point out the good threads. :)

I hope you're doing well. You know we got rain on Saturday up here. RAIN! I couldn't believe it!

[WolverineDG]

31. Lucky you!!!

we're still dry as a bone here :(

dg

[tammywammy]

32. We need a good tropical storm.

Not one that causes damage, but one that really does a good steady soaking.

[kentauros]

39. I'll take a full-blown hurricane at this point.

CAT-1 or 2 would work. It might cause some damage on the coast, but I think we need something of that level of power to punch through the wall of high-pressure and dry air over the rest of the state.

Or, a tropical depression to mosey on up the coast, and stall somewhere around College Station, like all the fronts always do ;)

[kjackson227]

28. I just "alerted" a dumb*ss because of their vitriol for Texas...

and Texans. Also, Ed Schultz isn't helping matters any by making fun of the Dem citizens...

They can all kiss my Texas *ss. Instead of criticizing Texas Dems, this is the time when we all should come together to make sure Perry loses the presidency (I honestly believe Perry will be the Republican Nominee).

[tammywammy]

29. I had a Texas Democrat stickie up there last night b

:P

[kentauros]

33. And still more taking apart the state

instead of limiting themselves to Perry and the 'pubs:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1748955&mesg_id=1749037

I don't really have the background to argue some of these folks. Researching industry, farming and other stats bores the hell out of me, but plenty on DU thrive on that stuff and thus can argue more effectively. Better I point these threads out to those of you better prepared than I ;)

[Liberal In Texas]

34. It's not only DU. I'm hearing a lot of slurs against Texas from our allegedly

progressive talk radio hosts. Randi Rhodes was especially obnoxious today.

[kentauros]

35. That's when you call in if you're able.

Take them to task for the slurs, remind them that they're beating down our will to fight back at Perry and the rest right here at home. Better that they help rally the troops here with us than to just give the other side that much more fuel for their campaigns.

Basically, do all of the above and shame them on the air. If that doesn't get through, then stop listening to them and find someone better. Write them an email or hand-written letter to let them know how you feel and what you're doing now. They listen to that kind of thing, too, especially when it comes from their base.

[kentauros]

36. GD - Willfully Ignorant

That's the only conclusion I can make with the likes of this thread over our waterpipe woes in Houston:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1755991

No amount of educating the masses is doing any good. They are ignoring the facts in favor of fueling their rage against Texas.

[WolverineDG]

40. Can't cure stupid nt

[HelenWheels]

37. I live in Wisconsin and believe we should support all the states

We in WI have the darn teabaggers strutting around. We just defeated one that was running to recall a Democratic state senator. But just the fact that someone so unqualified and stupid received 25,000 votes is very embarrassing. We also voted out Feingold for a really bad guy, Ron Johnson. We elected a reality star, Sean Duffy, to replace Dave Obey (who retired) in the Congress. And worst of all we elected Scott Walker as our governor.

So, every state has its' losers and should not make fun of any state.

[kentauros]

38. Thank you for saying that.

I feel the same way. We're all in this together and any regional hate has no place here or in any liberal's thoughts and actions. I've tried to get that point across, yet even the ones I tend to respect for their level of education and knowledge are often the ones at the forefront spewing utter vitriol at a whole region/state instead of at the republicans in said area.

Welcome to the Texas forum, too :hi:
We like it when people share their thoughts from the other states and countries out there :D

[rainbow4321]

44. Here is one way to silence them

If they lived here in the US between 2000 and 2008, tell them that they MUST have been a chimp supporter and fully supported everything he put in place during those years...because using THEIR OWN RATIONALE, all that matters is where you live and who is elected. They wanna use a blanket statement about Texas and Texans, then the same MUST hold true for them and their residing in the US during chimp's timeframe.

[FloriTexan]

45. Between the Texas bashing and Obama bashing....

I'm kinda getting tired of visiting DU.

[tammywammy]

46. You should at least stay to visit the Texas forum

At least in here we aren't bashing fellow Texans. Plus as the most active state forum, there's always good information.

And most especially, Texas DUers are good people! :loveya:

[TxVietVet]

47. I'm a native Texan and lived in the Midwest for over 20 years.

Getting insulted by the conservanazis was a daily ordeal. I found that most of them are just a ignorant of the US and prejudiced as any KKKlucker I'd ever met in Texas. However, I enjoyed the progressive/liberal Democrats I met there. Some fine people. Where ever I have resided, I can find something to complain about.

We, as Texans and DU'ers, need to organize. Put all this bu$hit aside. I know Perry's f*ckin' stupid. I didn't vote for the SOB. When anyone puts me down for being Texan, I'm very proud to tell them that same thing. I also remind them that the propaganda machine in their area can cause the same thing to happen to their state.

Get organized. If we don't, all of us are going to be painted with a broad brush as LOSER Democrats.

Get insulted by some clown, find out where he's from. His state has some idiots. Just me. All of them do.

I have a little story about a cheesehead conservanazi and his insulting me. He asked me one day, 'just WTF brought you here?'. 'Work'. 'This job?'. 'Nope. Actually, I was working in the area for the Department of Commerce and the job run out and I stayed.' 'WTF were you doing for them?' 'I was doing surveys on the East Coast and then sent here to the Chicago/Milwaukee area. The survey was very simple and easy to get results. I was surveying how many f*cking idiot a$$holes were as a percentage of the population and Milwaukee topped the list. That job ended and I found this one. I won't leave until either I retire or the job runs out. Deal with it, conservanazi a$$hole.' :puke: I was a happy as can be when I retired and left the state of Wisconsin. Now, they have all those conservanazis to contend with. Too f*ckin' bad. I voted straight Democrat and was an avid supporter of Feingold.

I'm a Vietnam veteran and a Texan. I'm used to being either ignored or insulted. Take your pick. It comes with the turf.

[kentauros]

48. There's another one in GD right now, should be easy to spot.

I invited them to restate their OP here and see what happens :eyes:

[tammywammy]

50. That shit was messed up this morning

And it took freaking forever to get it locked. :eyes:

I have to say, it looked like only one person actually agreed with the OP, everyone else was slamming him (and rightly so).

Pardon my language, but fuck that shit. I told him to "go fuck yourself" and I meant it. Asshole.

[kentauros]

51. I saw your post with that! :)

While I was thinking the same thing, I didn't want to use it directly. However, I did reference your post with those same words to point out that I was indeed being calm (after having the OP tell me to "calm down" :eyes:)

cbayer did the right thing in its locking, though it did make me wonder just how much mod-discussion went on before it got locked, considering how long it did take.

[tammywammy]

52. You were calm.

I let my emotions get the best of me. Oh well.

I think there must have been a LOT of discussion on that thread, since it was alerted on early and often. :)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

53. I was accused of "broadbrushing"

Because I live in very conservative East Texas and i said that MOST of the white folks around here are angry, ignorant rednecks.

The people who attacked me thought I was saying that everybody in Texas was a stupid redneck.

That was not what I was saying. I was saying the people around me in the country were ignorant rednecks. Mostly. Not everyone, but most of the people I meet I have nothing in common with.

I'm a democrat so I tend to not have very many white friends.

The attackers acted like i did not know that the big cities are liberal and democratic.

I grew up in Houston which has 4 million people in the metro area, so I know about diverse big cities.

:banghead: :banghead:

No matter what you say someone will misinterpret it.

[MicaelS]

49. Every Texas bshing post I see, I alert on

I just put "more Texas Bashing" in the comments.