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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:29 AM
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The republicans in this state stole seats
They gerrymandered a good Congressman out of office and bought it for a whiny yes man. I think the citizens of this state should call for a recall of the last redistricting of this state. In district 19 they redrew the lines so that they had a more heavily republican favored district. My parents could not even vote for their Congressman that they have always voted for and he is from that area of Texas, their representative now is from Midland. I am so distraught and disallusioned with this country and this state I can not stand it. This election was stolen in more ways than one. I am going to make damn sure that the republicans in 2 years do not win the house again and that we get control of the senate. Bush now has a free pass to do what ever he wants. He does not have to run for reelection in four years. It breaks my heart that this country has become what it has become. We Democrats fought hard and I am not discounting that. I want to say good job everybody, and keep your chin up, we will prevail.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:25 AM
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1. Totally agree that redistricting killed us
But that was the whole point with Tom DeLay - to kill us for good. They packed their districts specifically to make it easy for them to win. The whole point of gerrymandering is to break up the other party's base and make it near impossible for them to win.

Our only hope now is with the Supreme Court and that of course is not anything to pin your hopes on, since they're stacked against us.

One thing we have learned from this last election is that we can win in these tight State districts if we do the ground work and get out our vote. I'm talking about races like Patrick Rose, Mark Strama and Hubert Vo of Houston if we can hold that one. These are all races where the districts were supposedly republican but with hard ground work they were won. We just need a grassroots army of 5 million every out there every day. You have to build from the ground up. Take your local seats first and keep the momentum rolling there.

And don't forget the legal and criminal lawsuits are still to be settled.

Sonia
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:43 AM
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2. I am still very upset with this election
I feel that it was already in hand before the first vote was counted. With the record turnout, I am just not seeing how it could go so far to bush. It is very frustrating.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:12 PM
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3. texas1928 I hear you
There is nothing wrong with feeling depressed that the majority of voting people in this country buy the bu$h spin. What can we say. We know we aren't wrong, we just aren't in the voting majority. Fear obviously makes people vote against a lot of things they really believe in.

Right now I'm taking the attitude that I happened to survive the burning of my village. Things are bad and a lot of people are in pain, but we have to somehow figure out how to survive. Hang in there texas1928, we can come back. It's just going to take a long time.

Sonia
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:48 PM
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5. I have taken the stance of
You voted for him, so you got what you wanted. So don't cry to me, you voted for "more of the same". And that is how I feel. If there is another terrorist attack, well you voted for him. If the draft comes, well you voted for him. If they get their flat tax, well you voted for him. If gas is 4 bucks a gallon, well you voted for him. I am through with talking to them, I am just going to point out you had the chance to change but you let him scare you into voting for him. So everything that happens in this country is your fault, live with it. We who voted for Kerry have to live with it, so they have to live with it and not complain cause they propped him up again.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:31 PM
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6. Here's some food for thought
It's time for us to keep fighting and I think that we should use what tools we have at our disposal which are computers, printers, and manpower.

I think it's important to teach the dimwitted ill informed fundies a lesson that they should never forget since they voted for their own destruction.
One way that I think we can get this message across is to find pics of all the people who have been harmed by the pResident's war. Find the most horrific pics we can find and make flyers with at least a dozen of the pics and then distribute them on the windshields of their cars while they are in church. We should make them have to face the realities of their pResident's decision to kill innocent men, women, and children. Perhaps just pics of children should be used.

We cannot afford to let them take control of lives forever! We have to fight back and I think this would be an effective way to demonstrate that power. We have to expose them to the brutal way that this misadministration is waging war on our country.

I hope you will post this thread for me, I think it is imperative that we continue to fight the struggles our country will be facing for another 4 years.


Anyway I am sick that this has happened yet again to our country. I was very hopeful, although I knew in my heart that the "fix" was already in, with all the e-voting with no paper trails.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:00 PM
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7. They would not look at them
They would just wad it up and litter. The best thing we can do is everytime someone complains on the news, in person, or on the internet, about what Bush did now, is throw it back at them and say you voted for it. Stop complaining. I have a right to complain I voted against the monster.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:29 PM
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4. Redistricting killed Martin Frost
The new district is now 70% republican! How could he have won? It is this way all over the state. Effin repukes and DeLay!
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:24 PM
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8. We've Been DeLay'd
It was amazing and horrifying to watch how well his plan worked. Bye, bye, stalwart Nick Lampson. Heroic Chris Bell already gone. And so on.

We can look forward to a possible DeLay indictment, possible action from the Circuit court on the redistricting itself. Anything else?
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:46 PM
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9. Me, too, texas1928
Here in Coleman County people kept coming up to the election judge and clerks complaining they couldn't find Stenholm's name...Ah! The pain! Now we got Bush's former accountant as our Rep. Shit! And did you see Taylor County results? Stenholm took it---but by less than 1000 votes! Can you say,"Screwed yourself?"
I was a county coordinator for Charlie for 15 years, but never really convinced he was full-bore Dem. I would like to ask him if he likes how the bastards repayed him for voting with them so often.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 04:58 PM
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10. I grew up in Runnels county
and when I got hurt, Charlie helped me get on health insurance through a texas program. after my dad's insurance dropped me. That won my respect for that man, and I always will have it. He may have voted with the republicans sometimes, but I want a politician who looks at the issues and votes what he thinks is best. Not someone who will just vote cause that is what his party wants. Neugebauer does that 98% of the time. He votes party. He does not think for himself. That is why Charlie was so respected in Washington, he was not all party lines and nothing else. If he felt the Democrats were doing something bad he did not vote with them same with the republicans. And that is what is wrong with American politics it is so much now them vs. us. (This is a trip in a farfetched Utopia)It should be that politicians would want to help their constituents, all of them not select groups or who has the best lobbist, or who has the most campaign money to give. and it should not be what does my party think.

I have come close to becoming an independent just because I am tired of all the fighting that goes on. We are all Americans and we are all interested in making this country grow and prosper. We should stop fighting and start working together, America is not dead and gone(as some would say) we saw that on election night. People standing in line for 9-10 hours just to get their voice heard at the ballot box. Bush should wake up and see that people are tired of what he is doing and wanted to have their voice heard, not through civil unrest, protesting, or riots, but through casting a ballot. I have not always agreed with Republican ideas but, I have also not always agreed with Democrats too. I am afraid it is going to take a rude awakening to get these people to see that we have to stop this fighting. Like during the years before the depression, there was a lot of partisan bickering, and then the depression hit and people had to come together to make it through. But that is what makes us great, we can overcome anything.


Sorry I will get off my soap box now.
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