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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:57 PM
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Al Gore running again
http://ostroyreport.blogspot.com/2005/10/gore-will-run-...

Forget that half-hearted declaration Al Gore gave at an economic forum in Stockholm, Sweden two weeks ago about having "absolutely no plans and no expectations of ever being a candidate again." According to friends, family and political advocates, Gore's playing it coy and has every intention of entering the race. "I'm not discouraged at all by what he said," said one of the Gore backers who's recently spoken with US News & World Report. "He doesn't want to be embarrassed and he won't just slowly tip-toe into the race. He wants the whole thing set up for him and that will be easy to do."

Gore's supporters cite his strong, early anti-war stance and his concern over environmental issues, as well as his successful economic track-record and the fact that he won the popular vote in 2000. Many believe he won the Electoral College and the thus the presidency but had it stolen by the Florida GOP and the U.S. Supreme Court.

His advocates say Gore could get a groundswell of support from high-tech, media and corporate donors.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:00 PM
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Please, Al, run again
Eight years older and wiser and practiced on lettin' rip, I think Al Gore would have an excellent chance. I sure would vote for him over Hillary any day.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:00 PM
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1. I hope Gore does run again
And he doesn't need corporate donors if he taps into Dean's fundraising network.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:00 PM
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2. Please no.......
We need a strong campaigner and Gore isn't one. He couldn't beat the idiot and he thinks he can beat a real candidate?
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:03 PM
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7. He DID beat the idiot - and WHAT real candidate N/T
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:24 AM
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46. So Gore has been president for the last 5 years?
What real candidate? How about McCain or Pataki?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:58 AM
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50. McCain or Pataki as real canidates?!
WTF are you smoking? :rofl: I think you might be at the wrong board hon.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:05 PM
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9. Have you seen him lately?
Gore has the potential to be the strongest campaigner in the US. Bar none. Quick, poignant, insightful, funny, endearing, on-point. He's got it all. And he has the experience, backing, name recognition, and all the right stances on all the issues.

If Gore isn't enough of a "strong campaigner" for you, I don't think you'll find anyone satisfactory.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:24 PM
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23. not to mention the unspoken thought that must be in the back
of every americans mind. "what if?" "what if we had Gore all this time?" "would things be better?"

and i cant think of too many (other than the immovable 33%) that in hindsight wouldn't want Al to have won in 2000
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:46 PM
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29. I'm with him all the way! He has lots of guts


I would love to see a Gore - Clark ticket
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:02 PM
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32. I agree... if anything I like & respect Al Gore much more then I did ...
back in 2000.

He didn't have to help down in NOLA but he did and he did it at his own expense. He didn't have a film crew with him, he wore no makeup, he rolled up his sleeves and got down right sweaty actually HELPING so it sure wasn't a photo op.

After seeing him in the last couple of years he looks much more relaxed and comfortable with who HE is. IMO he's matured and found himself even further as a politician and as a human being.

IMO I think once the American public sees and hears him again, the way he is now, they too will like and respect him more as well and he'll bring back "happy days are here again" type memories... he'll be like a fresh Spring breeze even a particularly harsh Winter (of discontent) or a nice comfy pair of old slippers. :)

There are a few I'd like to see as Dem Presidential candidates and Al would definately rank w-a-a-a-a-y up there on the list. Once all those who are running are known along with their stances on issues important to me I'll make a decision then and do all I can to help them win. Until then it's nice to ponder, dream and speculate. B-)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:00 AM
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51. I hope so too
Back at the 2000 convention he was interviewed for the convention (a video) and one of his daughters made the comment how he didn't like to campaign so that could be why he doesn't come across clear or something. But he has changed a lot and has had a lot more experience with public speaking from everything with global warming to teaching at MTSU.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:21 PM
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35. Agree. Gore Unleashed is not Gore 2000.
I attended all of his post-2000 NY speeches but for one, and I can say, he was so powerfully vital, direct, ascerbic, intelligent and fired up many people were literally moved to tears as they came out of the auditorium.


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:25 AM
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47. I'm sorry but Gore ran a horrible campaign in 2000
and I haven't seen anything that convinces me he would do better in 2008.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:17 PM
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17. I agree we need new blood
Sure Gore is now speaking up, but why didn't he do it in 2000?

Hackett speaks truth to power, and we need people like that in order to win. People who are NOT afraid to distinguish themselves on the issue

Incidently, I am NOT saying Paul Hackett for president, but people who have the courage to speak up like Hackett, and damned the political consequences

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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:28 PM
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24. A lot of people also said Gore and Bush were the same
...back in 2000.

He wasn't the same as Bush back then and he certainly isn't now. This time, however, people will Know there is a difference.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:54 PM
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37. I know, but I don't have that much confidence in the intelligence
of the U.S. public

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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:32 PM
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25. Al has changed
That's the thing. While he did beat Chimp, he should've beaten him convincingly ala Clinton-Dole so I see where your coming from on that angle.

But if today's Al Gore the guy who made the impassioned speech at Moveon, the guy who made a great parody of Trent Lott on SNL, the guy who looks comftorable cracking jokes with Leno on the Tonight Show, if that guy had run eight years ago, he'd have gotten 350 EV's.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:01 AM
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52. For sure
He's definietly a different guy from then. I'm sure hasn't changed as a person but publically I'm sure he's different in showing it to the public.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:52 PM
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31. I agree with Autonomy
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:53 PM by corkhead
2 years ago I would have said "oh no!" myself, but I've seen a different Al since then. If he campaigns the way he has spoken in public over the past year or so, he would mop the floor with anyone the repukes would serve up IMHO.

I'm not sure the corporate press would screw him again, but why would it be different for any other Democratic candidate?

Liberal media my ass!

edit for improved clarity
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:27 AM
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48. Don't get me wrong,
If he gets the nomination , I'll certainly support him. I think he would make an excellent president, I just don't think the general public is bright enough to understand that. I think he would make a great president but I doubt that he can be elected.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:00 PM
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3. That Would be Great News!
Gore and Dean are the two possible candidates who I would endorse without reservation. And Howard's not running.

:bounce:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:10 PM
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12. I like him too.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:10 PM by henslee
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:01 PM
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4. Groundswell of support from me as well
I think he's the perfect man for the moment.

I sure hope he does run.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:02 PM
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5. Good for him
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:04 PM by whirlygigspin
I wish him well and always wonder how much this nation could have achieved in energy Independence had the Bush crime family not stolen the election of 2000-- creating the fine mess we have now.

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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:02 PM
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6. Oh Please Al...
I have tons of energy here to help you campaign....:yourock:
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:04 PM
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8. I'd back Gore 100%
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:09 PM by Richard D
I think he might be the only pol who has a grasp about the environment. Despite all of the tragedies of the current administration, the environment is greatest looming disaster that no one on either side seems to really grasp. Of course we need to address the war, poverty, crime, etc., but if the environmental disaster that is brewing isn't addressed with full force, we won't have anyplace to live anyway.


on edit: Also, Gore is not "Skull and Bones"
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:09 PM
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10. Behind him 200%
Maturity, patience, honesty....

and he DID beat Bush in 2000 in the popular vote. I think he could do it again.

The swing voters are looking for greener pastures and Al brings back good memories.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:09 PM
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11. If.....
If he proves that he will not cow-tow to his "high-tech, media and corporate donors", I would vote for him. The corporation has to be taken out of politics.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:50 PM
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30. That's PRIORITY NUMBER ONE!
Get the Big Biz out of politics and start regulating them again....Greed has to be regulated.

Does Al have anything to do with the DLC? If he does, I don't think I could support him. Or has the DLC decided upon Hillary and no one else?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:02 AM
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53. I don't think he does
I don't remember seeing his name on the website under their member list. :shrug: And he backed Howard Dean so I think they're on the same page with a lot of Dean's ideas and policies.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:00 PM
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43. I am with you - my mind is open - he had better ROAR on behalf of
all the people who need him most...

I will stand with him, then. You bet.

:patriot:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:10 PM
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13. Click on the link and sign the "Draft Gore Petition!"
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:11 PM by John Q. Citizen
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:11 PM
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14. Gore- Clark? Watcha think?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:17 PM
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19. I'd vote for that ticket in a heartbeat!
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:20 PM
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20. And don't they sort of have a similar funnybone? I bet they'd get along.
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atfqn Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:10 PM
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40. That is exactly the combination
I thought of when I saw the title of the thread.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:48 PM
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41. Clark - Gore
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:04 AM
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54. Could be good
I'd trust whomever Gore chooses. I would love a Gore/Dean ticket but I'm sure it won't happen. I think Dean is doing a great job as party chair though. :) Fighting the good fight that way. I would also back a Gore/Daschle ticket. I've heard rumors of him possibly running.
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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:11 PM
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15. SWEET!
I'd totally be all over that. He'd be pretty much exactly what the US needs now.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:14 PM
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16. I would vote for Al as long as he is NOT part of the DLC
but would definitely prefer new blood. I think the democratic party needs a new progressive candidate, and though I may agree with Gore on most issues, most people are going to remember the lies and insults that were perpetuated in 2000, i.e. wishy/washy, no personality, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the distortion, but we should start from a position of strength, NOT weakness

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:32 PM
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26. But who would that new candidate be? And even with the smears,
Al already won in 2000, both the popular and the electoral vote and he did it with a challenge from the left in the form of Nader.

His chances would be even better at this point, IMHO

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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:17 PM
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18. I'd back him whole heartedly n/t
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:20 PM
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21. RE-ELECT PRESIDENT GORE!!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:21 PM
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34. You got that right! n/t
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:23 PM
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22. I'd back him 100% too.
I have listened to his speeches in the last few years.... And I have been extremely impressed with his insights and absolute brilliance.

I don't want him to take any prisoners though. He needs to come out swinging and kicking ass!
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:34 PM
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27. Come on Al, Do it!
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:34 PM
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28. He's the ideal candidate
I hope to hell he runs... he'll win (again).
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:12 PM
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33. Good then, good now......
But if he did, this time around I'd get off my butt and work for him like I did for Kerry. Never again will I assume that people want peace and prosperity and can decipher an obvious choice.

That 2000 election changed me for good.....
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:33 PM
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36. SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Do you mind keeping this on the down low? This is down there with Super-top secret-underground Project X.

Gore is my president whether he runs or not, but I'm a bit worried by this statement: "groundswell of support from high-tech, media and corporate donors." hmmmmmmm :yoiks:


cheers
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:06 PM
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38. I voted for him in 2000 and will vote for him in 2008 gladly
Heck, I think he should be president now. Replace the I got elected
on a legal caveat with the real winner from 2000.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:08 PM
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39. I love Gore
he's the type of candidate I could back 100%. Who would he run with? Hmmmm
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:02 PM
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44. Kerry? Edwards? Kucinich? Obama? Clark?
:woohoo:

(I'd include Howard Dean, but I think Al and Howard are a lot a like - maybe we need on wrestler in the WH and one outside...?)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:06 AM
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55. Right
Plus Dean said if he won the chairman job he won't run again. :( I would love if it was Gore/Dean. Now that would be a heck of a campaign! But of course that's just a dream. :( But I do hope that Gore runs again and as I mentioned in another post I don't think Gore is DLC. I don't remember seeing his name on the website.
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JJackFlash Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:19 PM
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42. The Bush Junta is squatting in Al Gore's house
I still regard Al Gore as the President-Elect in exile.
The Disaster Monkey is only the president of fools and repugs.
Please run, Mr. Gore! I don't think the "mainstream" media is going to be set against you the way they were before.

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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:50 AM
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45. Please let it be so!
My President! I will work 24/7/365-66 for Al Gore if he runs...if anyone else is the candidate, I'll just hold my nose and vote.

In threads like this there's always people saying "we need new blood", well no, actually we don't - not to run for PRESIDENT! Not now, with our country in a damned mess that will have to be cleaned up! What we need is someone who can hit the ground running, who has the ability to quickly grasp complex issues and situations, who can sift through facts and figures and make sound decisions based on the information. We need someone who already possesses relationships with leaders, national and international. We need someone who knows how the government actually runs, how to actually get things done in the government.

We do not need someone who has no experience at the top levels of government. And people are not going to trust someone who has no experience. We don't have anyone else who has the experience, the recoginition, and the ability to get elected. None of the Senators who will run can do it, and none of the other candidates usually mentioned can do it, either. On the second half of a Gore ticket, yes it could fly. But I don't think any of them could do it at the top of the ticket. And for anyone thinking Gore would do the VP slot again...No. I don't see that happening. Al Gore won the last election he was in - he'll win the next one, too.

Gore in '08!

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adubadee Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:23 AM
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49. Hell yeah.
I truly believe that AL is one of the few with a real heart in his ribcage. I don't think he would hold back in the least bit. He's very intelligent, experienced, and a believer in a lot of ideals that we hold true on this board.
Also they have nothing on him besides the ridiculous "I invented the internet" shit.
On that note. What did Al really say regarding the internet.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:08 AM
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57. Al Franken talked about that in his book
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 01:08 AM by FreedomAngel82
With Gore and the internet he helped lobby for it and back it for funding. So in a small way he did help to invent the internet. When I log onto DU and check my Email I always thank Al Gore. He believed in it (this is when he was in Congress I believe). The book with Franken is the "Lies and the lying liars who tell them" book. Which I do recommend by the way. Great book!
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:26 AM
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58. Al got a Webby recently because he was so influential in
the creation of the internet. He got the funding thru, which gave the DoD the money to R&D this "new" idea of the DoD's two computers being able to "talk" to each other. It was pretty much completely unknown at the time. He found out about it, thru the committee he was on, he was really interested in it and gave it tons of backing thru his career in the House and Senate. Without that govt funding we probably would NOT be where we are today - at least not nearly as far, anyway. All the net pioneers admit that Al Gore did more than anyone in Washington to help get it off the ground, and support it while it was young and struggling. And he DID invent the phrase "information superhighway"; it comes straight out of the mental idea he had of what the net would be, and comes FROM listening as a child to his father and other senators meeting discuss and debate the legislation that created our US Interstate Highway system.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:07 AM
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56. And remember Nixon
He lost and came back and won. If Nixon can do it so can Al Gore! Plus, we'll need someone like Gore in the White House in 2008 to clean up Bush's mess!
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