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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 11:00 AM
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New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services removes Adolf Hitler Campbell, sisters from parents
Source: The Express-Times

Authorities removed Adolf Hilter Campbell and his sisters from their parents' Hunterdon County home, Holland Township police chief David Van Gilson said Tuesday.

New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services took the 3-year-old as well as JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 1, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who turns 1 in April, the chief said.

Van Gilson said he didn't know why the children were taken or who had custody. He said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence.

The children's father, Heath Campbell, reached Tuesday evening at a relative's home, first declined comment and later said the children were not removed.

The Division of Youth and Family Services would not confirm or deny the report.

A spokeswoman said the division doesn't comment on specific families.

The chief said the children were removed last week. He said a township officer was present.

Read more: http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1231909557111320.xml&coll=3



because everyone knows putting Adolf Hitler in an orphanage always works out well
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kegler14 Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 11:17 AM
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1. OK, so the parents are idiots, but
absent reports of abuse or negligence, why are these kids being taken?
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 11:17 AM
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2. Bizarre is an understatement here.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 11:47 AM
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3. can you take kids from parents because of what the parents named the kids?
there better be a friggin reason BESIDES that or someone is looking at a lawsuit!!!
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:33 PM
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4. The article does not say why the kids were taken
Could be a lot of reasons. The article does note death threats being sent to the family so that could be a reason. Or perhaps the law got some kind of report of neglect. Reading the article its all very confused. The father says the kids weren't taken, but the judge says they were. :wtf:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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5. Kids with Nazi-themed Middle Names in State Custody
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 11:47 AM by RamboLiberal
Source: Philly.com

The three New Jersey children with Nazi-themed middle names have been placed in the custody of the state, police said.

Holland Township Police Sgt. John Harris workers from the state Division of Youth and Family Services removed 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and his younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell.

Harris, who as there to keep order on Tuesday, says DYFS did not tell police the reason the children were removed. DYFS spokeswoman Kate Bernyk says the child-welfare agency does not comment on specific cases.

The children and their parents, Heath and Deborah Campbell, received attention last month when a northwestern supermarket bakery refused to put Adolf Hitler Campbell’s name on a birthday cake.


Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/Kids_with_Nazi-themed_names_in_state_custody.html



On edit a bit more on this:

New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services removes Adolf Hitler Campbell, sisters from parents' home
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
By Tom Quigley and DOUGLAS B. BRILL
The Express-Times
Authorities removed Adolf Hilter Campbell and his sisters from their parents' Hunterdon County home, Holland Township police chief David Van Gilson said Tuesday.

New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services took the 3-year-old as well as JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 1, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who turns 1 in April, the chief said.

Van Gilson said he didn't know why the children were taken or who had custody. He said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence.

The children's father, Heath Campbell, reached Tuesday evening at a relative's home, first declined comment and later said the children were not removed.

The Division of Youth and Family Services would not confirm or deny the report.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1231909557111320.xml&coll=3

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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6. You must have cruel parents to name your kids that.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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7. Thank God!
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 12:04 PM by onehandle
The sick fuck parents should lose the kids for good and be STERILIZED*.


*Hey, Our future Chinese masters do it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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8. Must be something more than political views. Three kids, not quite three years apart?
That, combined with the naming, hints at a controlling person, from a distance. And the father is dishonest, saying the kids weren't removed, and earlier (from the cake stories) claiming these were just German names, trying to imply there wasn't any racism in them. The father seems smart enough to give shielded answers with some truth to them, while being base enough to squeeze out kids before his wife is physically recovered from the previous kids, and controlling enough to give kids names to satisfy his own political views while while ensuring a lifetime of problems for them.

Smart. Creepy. Scary. Able to justify the unjustifiable. An image of McVeigh keeps popping into my head.

But who knows? We know a few lines about this man, and those lines are filtered through a media that hasn't often been reliable. Guess it's a private matter we shouldn't worry about. Except that it's impossible to turn away.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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9. Heath complained that the store "was living in the past" - Who is living in the past???
Their house is a Nazi museum, including weapons (pictures from older reports). They admit to being supremacists. But all of that aside, I'm alarmed that they didn't specify a reason for removing the children and admitted there were no reports of abuse or neglect. I don't agree with the Campbells' way of thinking, but there had better be a good reason for taking the children! Their belief system and the names of the children are not valid reasons. I agree that it is cruel to name kids like that, but they can address that issue at present with nicknames and in the long run with a legal name change.


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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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12. "Their belief system and the names of the children are not valid reasons ." I agree!
Where does freedom of speech fit into all this?
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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14. hummmm.. i am ok with the children being removed...
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 12:35 PM by Sebass1271
than continue to live in such hatred environment... those kids could become little timothys and hitlers in the future. it is obvious the family hates anything than is not being white.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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10. As much as I hate what these parents are teaching their kids
I am sure there are folks who would suggest my daughter should be taken away because of my political and social views.

I certainly hope that they were not removed solely because the state is concerned with the political indoctrination they are receiving from their parents - because that would put all of us at risk of losing our children when the state didn't agree with our beliefs.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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11. You made my very point, but in a much more clear and concise way. Thanks.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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15. i am sure these were not the reasons..
they must have something else on this family that police is NOT saying.. don't take out your legal book yet
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:58 PM
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16. Did you name your child Fidel Castro, and then use the child, and their name,
to get national media exposure that could scar the child for life?
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 03:46 PM
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18. No - but it doesn't matter.
I hate what the individuals/concepts their children are named after represent - BUT children should not be taken away from their parents because their ideology differs with that of the state.

As a lesbian, I know all too well how tenuous parents rights are when parents' ideology differs with the state. Although my daughter became an adult this summer, had I died before she reached adulthood there is no guarantee that the state would have honored my written direction that she be raised by the woman to whom I am married - who participated in my decision to bring her into the world, and who raised her by my side. If any family member - and perhaps even people outside of the family - had challenged my choice the court would have had to decide what was in her best interests. Many people believe it is not in anyone's best interests to be raised by a lesbian (as at least one amendment barring adoption by gays and lesbians established just a couple of months ago).

Even worse, the state could have decided that our refusal to hide our relationship subjected our daughter to abuse by the school and her friends who believed our lifestyle to be morally wrong, and that abuse could have scarred her for life. To make matters worse, when she was about 9, we tried to create a legal relationship between my spouse and our daughter. Since it was the case in the state, it got national media exposure - that could have - in the opinion of the people who believe I am morally corrupt, scarred her for life - and constituted abuse.

Just because both you and I believe that what these parents appear to be teaching their children is morally reprehensible does not give the state the right to take these children away from their parents. Just because others also find it offensive, and taunt the children, does not - in and of itself - mean the parents committed abuse.

To forfeit their parental rights, the state needs to have evidence that the parents directly emotionally or physically abused the children by their acts or failure to act. The state may well have that kind of evidence- but what folks in this thread appear to be reacting to (the names, the apparent ideological teaching, and the reactions of others to the names of the children) are charges that could just as easily be levied against many parents on the left by those on the right.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 PM
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13. Don't know what we don't know
but unless there are legitimate reasons supporting abuse or neglect of the children, the state should have no authority to remove them from their home. It's pure speculation, but the guns, if they aren't properly disabled and the kids could get at them, night be a reason.

What I WISH is that the state would help make an honest effort to help these and other parents understand how to create an environment in which their children, and they, could thrive. From what I've seen there's a danger they would see that as something other than an attempt at help, but at least it would give them a chance rather than taking the kids out of the home as a first step.

If there's neglect or abuse that falls under the guidelines, though, they have to be protected first.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 01:09 PM
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17. Why was this moved? It made international news when the cake incident happened
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 04:57 PM
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19. Shh - there's a new thread over in LBN with 66 replies
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