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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:52 PM
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New DeVos ad attacks Gov. Granholm for "attacking" DeVos
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 05:18 PM by proud patriot
Well, you knew it had to happen. The Republicans are now running an ad asking why Jennifer Granholm is running attack ads against Dick DeVos. "Why is Jennifer Granholm attacking Dick DeVos?", the ad asks. "Attacking Dick DeVos won't help create one single job in Michigan, so why is Jennifer Granholm attacking Dick DeVos?".

Absolute insanity.

Granholm hasn't even ran any TV ads yet, but still the Republicans have the nerve to claim she's attacking DeVos?
The Democratic Party has run some pro Granholm ads, but they don't even mention Tricky Dick DeVos.

Memo to the Republicans: If you're going to run ads criticizing Gov. Granholm for attacking your candidate, you might just want to wait until she ACTUALLY STARTS CRITICIZING HIM!

Granted, there's an awful lot to criticize Dick DeVos about, and I'm sure the Governor's campaign will do so, once the campaign begins.

I think they screwed up and accidentally released an ad that they were holding "in the can" until she starts her campaign. OOPS.

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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 06:27 PM
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1. Every time I see one of his ads, I want to throw something at the TV.
When I see a "DeLoss" bumper sticker, I get uncharacteristically incensed. I rant to myself in the car for a good five minutes about how stupid the owner of the car must be. It's a strange reaction for me as I'm a pretty laid back person, and don't anger very easily. Something about that weasel really gets to me. Probably due in part to the pretzelnut et al.
I think the Granholm campaign will have a hard time deciding what to use in their ads. There is so much there!
I hope they do a lot of stressing all the great things she has accomplished, and her plans for the future. She needs to be given the chance to follow through with these plans.
The booklet they've published "Jobs Today, Jobs Tomorrow" is good. It's not too long, and spells out what she's done and what she's got planned. It's available for download, 6 pages double-sided pamphlet style, or 12 full sized. I'm waiting for them to be available at the campaign office, so I can grab some to hand out.
I need a bumper sticker that says something like:
DeVos = a loss for Michigan
A vote for DeVos is your loss
Hmmm....must keep working on it.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:55 PM
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5. No joke
The particular ad the OP refers to makes me want to shake Devos 'til his teeth rattle.

At this point i'd like a bumper sticker stating: Devos, the scum of the earth.

I am an extremely tolerant and peaceful person (like you, my response is not characteristic of who I am) ... Devos brings out an enmity in me similar to that Coulter creature
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 07:58 AM
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2. Republican spin. Clearly distorting things again.
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 03:46 PM
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3. Bizarre, isn't it?
An attack ad attacking a non-existent attack ad. :crazy:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 11:53 AM
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8. Welcome to DU! (nt)
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:35 PM
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9. Welcome to bizarro-GOP land
and welcome to DU too!
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:26 PM
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16. DeVos needs his outh washed out with some Amway soap!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 04:05 PM
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4. DeVos = Bush with more money and less experience.nt
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:44 PM
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6. DeVos: He makes Bush look mainstream (nt)
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EmmitFitzhume Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:05 PM
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14. That would be scary if true
Although the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and DeVos is a Bush/Rove disciple.

This Michigan Citizen article presents a great, concise overview of DeVos' extreme positions and appropriately titled, "DeVos team: Race-baiters, Women-haters: Right wing hopes Detroit joins effort."

The further you dig the worse it gets with this Dick and family.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:53 AM
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7. DeVos - The Ayatollah of Amway, Champion Employer of Chinese Cheap Labor
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 09:54 AM by TahitiNut
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 05:07 PM
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10. Lansing State Journal SLAMS DeVos for this misleading ad...
DeVos ad: Campaign hurts itself with this disingenuous attack ad. (title of LSJ article)

"Dick DeVos and his campaign for governor have tried to pull a fast one on mid-Michigan viewers with a new ad that makes reference to the Lansing State Journal."

"This ad... ...illustrates DeVos' unwillingness to play straight with voters."

"At issue is a brief TV spot that makes two text references to the LSJ. Citing the newspaper, the commercial says of Granholm, 'It's all negative all the time out of the Granholm camp' and '... on a mission to get re-elected ... perhaps at any cost'."

"...after being contacted, the campaign said it would modify the TV commercial...".

"The fact DeVos wasn't clear to begin with is telling, though."

"Nor is that an isolated incident. The Detroit Free Press reports the DeVos campaign will alter references to that paper in its ad..."

"Michigan has lots of issues to discuss in this year's gubernatorial campaign. DeVos and his team should work on them, instead of working to fool the voters."
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:03 AM
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11. More preemption
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 09:07 AM by Strawman
Trying to frame the way viewers will see negative ads when they do come out. People believe negative stuff and they don't believe positive stuff. This way when Granholm runs negative ads, they'll also carry the negative message against Granholm that Granholm is being negative.

It's a creative, clever tactic. But I would still slam the living shit out of this fundie nutball pyramid scheme operator who loves cheap Chinese labor. I think that will trump these charges against Granholm's campaign tactics. People could give a fuck about campaign tactics or being kind to some multibillionaire corporate heir. No matter how nasty the campaign gets, he won't be sweating the mortgage payment on his palatial compuond in W. Michigan. They're worried about their jobs. Also, it's not a smear when it's true.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:52 AM
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Michigans economy is NOT the only state that is suffering. DeVos daddy has put Dick where he is.

If DeVos was governor, Michigan would be known as the Alticore/Amway pyramid scheme capitol! The jobs Dick DeVos promise would be selling home products.

DeVos real record shows that he has absolutely nothing in common with Michigans working families and poor people. The truths he is trying to hide are that the practices he follows in business favor outsourcing job overseas, while his political connections link him to some of todays most unscrupulous criminals in Washington, DC.

As Amway CEO, DeVos cut over 1,000 workers from his own business, while investing hundreds of millions of dollars in China and overseas.

DeVos has financial and personal ties to Tom DeLay and the Republican culture of corruption.

Devos makes me :puke:
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mccoyn Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:02 PM
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13. Granholm needs to get an attack ad to answer this.
Something like: Devoss made millions giving jobs to China, he can take a little negativity.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 05:24 PM
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15. I think she should do an ad to address this, but not an attack ad.
She should sit in front of the camera and smile like she always does while quietly reminding Dick that she hasn't run any ads at all, so it's IMPOSSIBLE for her to have run any attack ads. She could go on to say that she intends to kick off her campaign after Labor Day, and that the people of Michigan could look for her ads then, and judge for themselves if she's being a positive candidate, or not.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 11:24 AM
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18. I Agree With This Approach--Great
This would have been such a wonderful response, but ever since the corporate Republican lobbyists of "D"LC, Inc. took over the Democratic Party, none of these things are answered anymore, and Democrats never fight back. I don't know why they didn't do this, or what they are waiting for; this would have been such a great way to completely shoot down DeVos's whole game. It could have been done, as you mentioned, very low-key and informative, like a teaching lesson about the way the Republican's campaign is--like one of Roosevelt's "Fireside Chats," intelligently explaining to you how this thing works, and why things are being done this way--going over each weird quote from the ad, and telling why it couldn't have happened, and why it was so off-base. As it is, I think they lost their chance--again--because I think the devil DeVos has a new commercial, which will probably go unanswered too.

To their credit, the Michigan Dems have been running a good ad on how Granholm recently attracted all those Google jobs to Ann Arbor, and there is one with Jeff Daniels and the Purple Rose Theater, on the Michigan Department that helps with small business loans and start-up help, etc. I also remember a while ago, an ad with Granholm, shortly after the Republican "Medicare" (insurance and pharmaceutical industry) Part D disaster, telling people that Michigan has a plan to help people who cannot afford it, with their prescription costs. They ought to run several like that--tell what Granholm and Michigan are actually doing, with the Departments named.

I happened to catch this commercial, and noted that several of the most bizarre quotes--"Phony," "Hokum" and "Demagoguery," (seriously, does anyone have a clue what any of those hysterics referred to, or did they just stupidly assume that the Granholm campaign would be attacking by then?)--all came from one single source, "Detroit Free Press, columnist, 6/30/06." Not only does that answer the calim that all of "the press" are making these calims againnst her, but people with longer memories will recall how the Free Press and the News merged under the Reagan Administration, brought in replacements during the strike of 1995, killed the union, and the short-lived Sunday Journal, and completely reorganized themselves, both, as third-rate, amateur, non-union rags.

She might also mention, as you did here during your reply #10, the rest of the quotes from these articles, for example from the original April 28 Skubick column, "And while on the subject of those DeVos ads, it's truly amazing that viewers have apparently been sucked in. The spots tell us very little about what he would do if he were actually elected," etc. Skubick has a long and embarrassing history of pestering Granholm like a teenager with a crush, asking silly "antagonistic" question after question that illumates nothing, then like a little prick with an unrequited infatuation, slanting everything against her. I was just hearing on a local station, Skubick attacking Granholm for working to get Detroit votes and a very important new endorsement from the Detroit Bishops' conference--she is "pandering," "alienating the suburbs by paying attention to Detroit," "what will she have to promise Detroiters," blah blah blah, those kinds of accusations--then in the next breath, praised DeVos, (who apparently now heads "Alticor," whatever the hell that is, just to cover up the AMWAY name we all know), for paying attention to Detroit rather than ignoring it, the way Engler did! She is attacked and DeVos praised--for the same thing! Of course, that is typical for Tim Suckdick.

I also recently caught a half-hour thing on a weekend afternoon, where DeVos appeared to be giving a speech to a roomful of people, and I waited for a question-and-answer session, finally, and some accountability. It went on and on and on, with oddly no sound of response from the "audience," and no change of camera angle at all, until I finally realized, it was yet another phony paid-for "infomercial" by DeVos, faking itself as contact with the public--just like Bush and Cheney!--and that it was in a closed-off studio dressed up like a public forum, and that there was no audience! Pathetic. Democrats should use clips from that, and ask why DeVos is hiding from the questions of unemployed people in Michigan, hurt by outsourced Amway jobs and the Republican pro-business life of eternal deregulation. Somebody on DU a while ago suggested a campaign slogan, "If You Like Bush, You'll Love DeVos," which would be perfect.

This whole DeVos ad was so strange and hateful, with what appeared to be these "specific" references to things Granholm had supposedly done--"Granholm's Negative Attacks Won't Create Jobs," etc.--that it should have been jumped on just because it made such a huge and easy target, just by going over it, bit by bit, on camera as you suggested. It would have been the ideal response, because it could not then have been characterized by DeVos as "negative." Granholm is still very popular, and her poll numbers always go up when there is actual contact from her. I do not understand the Michigan Democratic Party on this, and so many other things--are they that broke that they can't put on ads yet, or are they "D"LC, trying to lose?
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:59 AM
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17. what attack ad is the cry baby talking about??????????
he's trying inoculation against attacking first by doing this stupid ad and ALL the voters are seeing right through it asking "what the fuck is he talking about????"
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