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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:03 PM
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Murder suicide in Orlando: Stalker boyfriend guns down ex-girlfriend in Orlando
and then commits suicide near the University of Central Florida.

Guns + crazy delusional entitled man who couldn't accept no strike again.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:04 PM
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1. Gun thread!
:popcorn:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:05 PM
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2. In before the gungeon!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:06 PM
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3. IBTG?
:rofl:

Just reporting the news....
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:07 PM
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4. Yeah, flvegan started it.
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 11:08 PM by arcadian
I just rolled with it. :rofl:
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:10 PM
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5. If she were armed, there would only be one person dead.
*ducking*
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:10 PM
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6. Keep saying that gun control works and helps prevent this...
I know, I'm from France, the country with the highest gun ownership in Europe and yet a very very low rate of murder by said guns.

Once every 5 years a guy goes on a spree and it makes news for a couple years, while people ask how the man ended up doing that, not if guns should be outlawed.

And yet, gun ownership is guaranteed by law, but just not everything.

I knew of ONE gun nuts, just one. Most of my friends had guns, usually 1 to 3, and none would qualify as gun nuts.

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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:47 PM
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11. The Democrats have to get over this...
It's one of the last remaining "loser issues" for us. I am a gun owner too. Not a nut.

Just someone who doesn't want to be caught with the pants down at the wrong time, for a principle based on a fallacy.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 12:10 AM
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12. But you will agree some people should not own a gun
Illegal immigrants, convicted felons and also people who have psychological issues.

The problem is that because there is little gun control, these people often own guns.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 12:13 AM
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13. Of course. I'm not against gun control. I'm against gunphobia.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 12:46 AM
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14. Same here nt
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Merchant Marine Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:04 AM
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16. All of those are prohibited persons
If they're armed, they're illegally armed.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 11:37 AM
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20. Actually barely any control is done...
Just so you know.
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Merchant Marine Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 11:44 AM
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22. What do you think the NICS background check is?
And is the lack of enforcement the fault of legal gun owners or the government, hmm?
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 12:48 PM
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23. How about illegally obtained weapons? And the gun show loophole?
And regarding people with psychological issues, nothing is done, really.

All it would take is a yearly interview.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 12:56 PM
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24. There is no gun show loophole
The laws requiring background checks have no exceptions for gun show transactions.
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Merchant Marine Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:45 PM
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25. It's still a felony to sell to a prohibited person
Write some letters to your congressman and police chief if you want to see the laws enforced.

As to "psychological issues", our privacy rights tend to get in the way of what most authoritarians would like to see done.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:07 AM
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18. Illegal immigrants?
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 03:42 AM
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19. I didn't know -
- that gun ownership was so prevalent in France. What you've said reinforces awareness that access to guns is not the primary cause of gun violence.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 11:40 AM
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21. Mostly for hunting, though
But quite a lot of 22LR rifles with scopes (very lethal) and handguns, mostly 9mm and .357 (which is very popular in France due to its popularity in domestic movies and the fact that the Manhurin factory assembled German weapons for a while).
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:11 PM
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7. are there more murder suicides these days
or are we just hearinga bout them more ?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:12 PM
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8. Fuck me. We live in stormy time friends. Stormy times.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:13 PM
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9. Recommend
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:43 PM
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10. if we could have only armed them all
then only the innocent bystanders would have been shot in the crossfire. What's wrong with people, can't they see the need for more firearms? We have to save the children! (my Sally Struthers voice)Please people buy more guns, the children and loved ones need bullets in them.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 08:51 PM
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26. Something you may wish for, but not I. nt
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:00 AM
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15. Blaming guns is lazy.
And cowardly.

Put the blame where it belongs, on the pathetic jack-ass who committed the crime.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:06 AM
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17. How sad.
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