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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:41 PM
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James Dobson Threatening GOP and now Judges.
We've generally avoided the issue of James "SpongeDob" Dobson and his Focus on the Family organization going after Senator Ken Salazar because it just seemed like two sides yelling at each other. But The Los Angeles Times has an article that really sheds an entirely new light on the subject. From The Times:

Evangelical Christian leaders, who have been working closely with senior Republican lawmakers to place conservative judges in the federal courts, have also been exploring ways to punish sitting jurists and even entire courts viewed as hostile to their cause.

An audio recording obtained by the Los Angeles Times features two of the nation's most influential evangelical leaders, at a private conference with supporters, laying out strategies to rein in judges, such as stripping funding from their courts in an effort to hinder their work.

This is a lot different than just trying to get sympathetic judges appointed to positions -- this is scary. No group, no matter their agenda, should be actively trying to undermine the courts. There's nothing wrong with using politics to further your own agenda, but there is a problem with trying to use funding threats and other maneuvers to scare judges into doing what you want.

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http://coloradopoliticalnews.blogs.com /

What an idiot. What a fucking idiot.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:43 PM
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1. Dobson's the Yosemite Sam of the "Christian" right
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 11:45 PM by Art_from_Ark
Everybody DUCK!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:50 PM
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2. Or Elmer Fudd eom
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:57 PM
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3. I've got a solution.
Let people like Jimmy tear down the wall of church/state separation.
Then regulate and tax the living hell outta gop front groups like FOF. Bitch slap those conservative fundies back to the old testament.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:18 AM
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6. I've got a better idea
Instead of letting them tear down the wall, I say let's hang them from the wall.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:00 AM
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4. Herr Dobson is der Fuhrer of the Religious Reich
also known as Dr. James bin Dobson, Supreme Radical Cleric of the Fundamentalist Extremest American Taliban.

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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:10 AM
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5. LOL !
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:23 AM
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7. This is so insidious
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:30 AM
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8. When does this become treason, and when does it become a coup? n/t
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:21 AM
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10. The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup
Fundamentalist Radical Clerics such as Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson are not merely medieval throwbacks or misguided religious hacks. They are part of a well organized subversionary movement known as "Dominionism".

Dominionism constitutes a serious threat to American Democracy. These Radical Clerics have developed and are executing a detailed plan to gradually replace the free, secular democratic society of the United States with a Theocracy.

It is critical that people become aware of the extreme agenda these people have for the United States and ultimately for the world. The results of the 2004 Presidential Election were not a fluke or something that was drummed up over a period of months. It has been in planning for over 20 years, and what we are seeing take place now is, in the words of Katherine Yurica, "the swift advance of a planned coup".

The articles below are critical for understanding the Dominionist movement; for realizing how real and how detailed their plans are; and to become aware of how far they have come toward achieving their goals.

The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup: Conquering by Stealth and Deception - How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvance...

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOf...

Video on the Christian Reconstructionist Dominionist Theocratic Agenda
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/video_dominion.ram

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
a public information project from TheocracyWatch.org

http://www.theocracywatch.org
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:45 AM
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9. It's more like sedition than treason
And with "Christians" like Spongedob Dobson running around, I'm surprised that there hasn't been an explosion in lion ranching. It certainly would appear to be a potential growth industry.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:29 PM
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12. Sedition, Treason, and Coup d'etat
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 12:54 PM by IanDB1
3 entries found for treason.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Main Entry: trea·son
Pronunciation: 'trEz-&noun
Function: noun
Etymology: Anglo-French treison crime of violence against a person to whom allegiance is owed, literally, betrayal, from Old French traïson, from traïr to betray, from Latin tradere to hand over, surrender
: the offense of attempting to overthrow the government of one's country or of assisting its enemies in war; specifically : the act of levying war against the United States or adhering to or giving aid and comfort to its enemies by one who owes it allegiance —trea·son·ous /-&s/ adjective

treason

n 1: a crime that undermines the offender's government {syn: high treason, lese majesty} 2: disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior

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Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=treason


5 entries found for sedition.

se·di·tion Audio pronunciation of "sedition" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-dshn)
n.

1. Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state.
2. Insurrection; rebellion.


Main Entry: se·di·tion
Pronunciation: si-'di-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin seditio, literally, separation, from sed apart + itio act of going, from ire to go
: the crime of creating a revolt, disturbance, or violence against lawful civil authority with the intent to cause its overthrow or destruction —compare CRIMINAL SYNDICALISM, SABOTAGE —se·di·tious /-sh&s/ adjective —se·di·tious·ly adverb


sedition

n : an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

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1 entry found for coup d'état


coup d'é·tat Audio pronunciation of "coup d'état." ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k d-tä)
n. pl. coups d'état (k) or coup d'états (d-täz)

The sudden overthrow of a government by a usually small group of persons in or previously in positions of authority.







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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:21 AM
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11. If an organized right-wing militia group were doing the same thing, it
would be over before it began by way of the FBI and the Justice Department. It's only because Dobson et al are doing it "for Jesus" that this is forgiveable.
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