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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:15 PM
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Get ready to have our votes stolen...
Looks like AHNOLD the Nazi is trying to oust Kevin Shelley over charges of abusive language, cussing at employees, sexual harassment and taking funny campaign money. Oh, wait, that's Arnold who did those things.

Seriously, if anyone has been paying attention to what Theresa LePore is up to in Florida, we in Cali need to be very attentive to every little action leading up to election day, esp. where voting is concerned. They will try and steal this election just as they ousted Gray Davis by using lies, deception and plenty of voting booth nasties.

Just be forewarned and stay awake!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:18 PM
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1. That's a pretty tall order
Democrats control everything else in California. You still have to make it close enough to steal, and the Bush team is not in that position yet in California.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:19 PM
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2. Your right here's the article.......

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/08/28 ...

SF Chronicle, today:

SACRAMENTO
State freezes $17.5 million in voter funds
Finance director awaits audit of Shelley's spending

The Schwarzenegger administration said Friday it would freeze spending authorization for $17.5 million in federal voter funds until an audit determines if Secretary of State Kevin Shelley has properly spent previously distributed funds.

...

Schwarzenegger's finance department said it would allow for spending of $17.6 million to modernize voting machines and "buy out" old punch-card systems, but that it would withhold the remaining $17.5 million for so-called "discretionary" purposes -- including election office and poll worker training, disability and language access and electoral system mandates.

This is really bad news. I'm in Ohio but you guys in CA have to watch this developement. They just might be trying to steal your state.

Californians PLEASE take this seriously. If you guys want to get an e-mail campaign going let me know. I can get some people on the Ohio forum to help.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:22 PM
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3. Here's the thread in GD
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:19 PM
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8. And here's the thread in LBN
it has dupe links, but it's still damn important.

:scared: Wake up and smell the coup, California.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:06 PM
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4. Wonderful
Imagine that I own a company, and last year I authorized the company to spend $34M for a computerized accounting system, including installation, training, and maintainance. But imagine further that I want the new accounting system to fail, since I plan on stealing a large amount of money from the company once its accounting systems are completely hosed. What do I do to accomplish this? Well, I can accuse the man running the change-over of malfeasance and withold half of this budget, but only the half for training and maintainance.

I originally started writing this analogy to try to make what Ahnold is doing more clear. But to tell you the truth, no analogy is needed. It is completely obvious. REGARDLESS OF THE POSSIBILITY OF VOTE MANIPULATION FOR THE TIME BEING, THERE IS NO WAY THESE DRE VOTING MACHINES WILL FUNTION WITHOUT PEOPLE (MANY, MANY PEOPLE) ADEQUATELY TRAINED IN THEIR USE. THE ELECTION WILL BE COMPLETELY HOSED, AND THE GROPENATOR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE.

Californians: Wake Up!!!!!!!!!!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:04 PM
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5. this has nothing to do with Ahnuld
it has to do with problems with Shelley himself


if he did know that these donations were illegal, then he should step down--it would be the same thing we would want any Republican to do

and you can hardly call the SF Chronicle a tool of the Republican party


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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:34 PM
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6. It's always the Republicans' fault
Democratics never do anything wrong. This has Karl Rove written all over it.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 03:56 PM
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9. tell me your response is sarcastic
just because someone has a D behind their name does not make them a saint

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:55 PM
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10. Yet some here at DU seem to think that
every Democrat is a saint and every Republican is the Devil. There are Democrats who are crooks and there are Republicans who are honest. Corruption is an ideologically neutral endeavour.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:39 AM
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7. we still have paper ballots in our county... I like it that way. n/t
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