Freepers think Kerry cheated in the debate by using notecards

[rumguy]

"He rattled out complicated answers to complicated questions without pausing to think. Mighty suspicious to me.

4 posted on 10/03/2004 10:34:10 AM PDT by tkathy"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1234124/posts

I guess, to a freeper, if you're not a confused idiot you're automatically suspect.

[GiovanniC]

1. This Just Shows How Much

The American public is used to having a retard on a field trip for a president.

[displacedtexan]

2. The Backside Of The Bell Curve always thinks they're smarter than ...

they really are.

Stupid people don't know how stupid they are.

[ropi]

3. didnt they ever take Communications 101

hell..you can make notes..and if i am not mistaken.... old bushie was drawing stick figure pictures as kerry was talking too

[cheshire]

4. Yep I suspect they just don't understand. Don't reconise a brain. LOL

[Nicholas_J]

5. And I suppose they didnt notice

The earphone piece that George Bush was wearing...Part of the reasons for his
stammering was that he was listening to someone speaking to him in the earpiece
and he was having to try to repeat what was being said to him and he wasnt picking it
up fast enough

I will have to take your word on Free Republic as I never visit their site for fear of
catching a social disease...like trichinosis..

[JohnKleeb]

6. umm Bush used those cards too

He didnt start out though, Kerry started using them, I think to take notes on his counter, Bush started to I think because he saw it was working for Kerry or maybe he decided to draw people.

[krkaufman]

26. Bush started writing...

... 'cause he thought Kerry looked good doing it. Of course, Bush was just jotting down things he was going to do to Karl Rove, later, for not getting him out of the debates.

[Renew Deal]

7. They were surprised he wasn't foaming at the mouth like Bushler.

:freak:

[funky_bug]

8. Okay, I watched the video, and I admit some concern

My first instinct was that it was clearly a pen that Kerry removed from his jacket. After reading the freak republic comments, I noted that the rules specifically state that they must submit even their writing impliments prior to the debate.

In a nutshell, it doesn't much matter what Kerry took from his jacket... he violated the rules of the debate, and now those chickenshits have their reason to cancel the other two debates: violation of rules. Does anyone else have a video that shows if he DID remove something from his jacket? I know this is small potatoes, but that's all the GOP needs to have in order to cancel the other debates. One small rule violation....

[rumguy]

11. As one of the freepers points out - Bush also removed something from

his pocket - I think there was something they could take in....

[Dickie Flatt]

15. Did he put something back IN?

If there's no video of Kerry putting something back IN his pocket we can be done with this now, because nobody would leave prohibited items on the stand.

[fugue]

17. You're right!

I just checked the memorandum of agreement (the pertinent passage is subparagraph 5[d]). The candidates had to submit all their writing implements to the Commission, who would then place them on the podium for the candidate. Kerry using one out of his pocket was a no-no.

Fortunately Bush directly addressed Kerry more than once, which is a more flagrant violation of the rules.

[sendero]

21. Who is to say.....

.... that he hadn't earlier took a pen from the podium and put it in his pocket?

I for one have a habit of pocketing pens because I'm always losing them :)

[beyurslf]

18. Let them cancel the debates because he brought a PEN to it!

Let them say that is why they won't do it. I think the vast majority of the public will recognize they are cancelling the debates because Bush did so poorly.

[LiberalFighter]

29. Delete

[mzmolly]

9. LOL, brains draw suspicion from freepers ... Imagine that!?

;)

[belle]

10. They would. haha losers.

[Generic Other]

12. Bush was the one with the notes, but they didn't help

He had to read the notes and that just confused him. He had rather large phrases scrawled on the paper.

The "on-message" stuff.

[Bongo Prophet]

13. Wonder what they think of this

[rumguy]

14. what is that???????

[Star]

19. Don't know what that is

But wasn't there also a rule that there couldn't be any camera angles from the back of the candidates? Wonder why the * people wanted that one?

[goclark]

20. What is THAT????

When I saw his bak it seemed unnatural.
But unless this is photoshopped, what the jell is it??

My tin hat is on an ready to roll.

Did Kerry have the same bulge?

[funky_bug]

31. They're already thinking... snort snort...

It's a bullet proof vest. Sigh...

[stevedeshazer]

32. What is most revealing is how he is holding himself up on the podium

[mountainvue]

16. Oh! The level of dumbing down is

frightening! When someone is eloquent and prepared, he must be cheating. Our guy has prepared for this his WHOLE life.
Chimperor would probably be unable to point to Iraq on a map if necessary.

[fortyfeetunder]

22. Not only is he geographically illiterate...

if you hear him talk at any length about Iraq, he pronounces this country's name at least three ways.

I clarify, he is functionally illiterate. No wonder his favorite book is the Hungry Caterpillar!

[LiberalFighter]

30. Why the "Hungry Caterpillar"

Because it is the book that he reads the most? So he remembers how it goes and remembers it easier?

[fortyfeetunder]

40. The Hungry Caterpillar, by Eric Carle

is a pre-schooler's book. The irony is * said it was his fave book when growing up, but this story is less than 20 yrs old. OTOH, maybe * was right!

[lolly]

23. Of Course!

Because, as we all know, someone who served successfully as a prosecuting attorney in a large urban jurisdiction could never be capable of, you know, thinking on his feet and responding intelligently to a difficult question!

[KoKo]

24. Hey thanks for pix from "Hero!" The Freeps/Drudge are so desperate...

they are really grasping at the last straws here. Maybe they will finally go overboard in their lunacy and some folks will catch on...but they are just trying to shore up their base and for them there's no hope...

[rumguy]

27. yep - it's a good movie

everyone should see it - it's still in theatres.

[devinsgram]

25. Dah!

I believe it's called I N T E L L I G E N C E. A concept I'm sure they are not used to, considering what they have to look up to.

By gosh I think I understand now. * is actually smarter then they are. No wonder he's their man.

[seraph]

28. ROFLMFAO!!

And these people breed??

Oi Gevalt!

[sofa king]

33. No, the Freepers are right--Kerry did cheat!

Using special photo-enhancing, I've cleaned up the images somewhat. You can see below that Kerry did in fact use a prop to inspire fear in the President:



Seriously, take a look at the video where Kerry reaches into his pocket. Now watch the President. What's he pulling out of his sleeve?

[George W. Dunce]

36. LMAO to funny

He showed it to Dubya and told him that if he got out of line he would use it. That's why Dubya was so nervous it had nothing to do with him being a cluless fool.

[mourningdove92]

34. Please go here-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x959645

[molly]

35. OMG - OMG - OMG some people do have brains ya know

[debatepro]

37. Implicate Admission

Implicate in there statement is that Bush lost. That I agree with. So were are half way there.

[seraph]

38. Like, How do you cheat in a debate like this?

Give me a break!

They are out of their little minds.

[mdhunter]

39. Has Bush committed a much more serious transgression?

That is, assuming Kerry broke the rules at all?

Section 5 part e of the MOU reads, "Neither film footage nor video footage nor any audio excerpts from the debates may be used publicly by either candidate's campaign through any means, including but not limited to, radio, television, internet, or videotapes, whether broadcast or distributed in any other manner."

The DNC and RNC both have internet pieces on their respective websites featuring video or audio, or both, from the debates. Neither were paid for by the campaigns proper, nor endorsed by a candidate. Kerry does not have a new video up on his site, but Bush does, generally dealing with the "Global Test" misconception. I can't really tell if it features debate footage or quotes, but it certainly seems to violate, at least, the spirit of the above quoted rule.

Anyone else notice this or have thoughts?

Mark

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

41. Moonbeam thinks freepers are mighty desperate and idiotic shills.