Buchanan endorses Kerry over Iraq war

[AmerDem]

Patrick Buchanan, an uber-conservative of the old school who ran on a radical anti-immigration platform in his 1992 presidential run, has endorsed Kerry in a laudatory editorial which dubs Kerry a “liberated man,” who is “pummeling the president on the great issue of this campaign” – Iraq. While he says Kerry needs to go further in his attacks, and lay out his own plan for Iraq, Buchanan writes, “Kerry has rolled the dice to offer himself as a leader to disengage us from what he calls a mistaken, mismanaged war, to redirect our fire at Al Qaeda.”

After the swift boat attacks of August and the Rathergate debacle – CBS’ botched attempt to paint President Bush as an insolent National Guard officer deserving of court martial – John Kerry seems to have found his footing. Kerry seems a liberated man.

He is now pummeling the president on the great issue of this campaign. “The invasion of Iraq was a profound diversion from the battle against our greatest enemy, Al Qaeda,” declares Kerry. It has turned Iraq into a haven for terrorists. He describes “the real war.”

“(T)o destroy our enemy we have to know our enemy. … They are not just out to kill us, they want to provoke a conflict that will radicalize the people of the Muslim world, turning them against the United States and the West. And they hope to transform that anger into a force that will topple the region’s governments and pave the way for a new empire: an oppressive, fundamentalist superstate stretching across a vast area from Europe to Africa, from the Middle East to Central Asia. That’s their goal.”


http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=312



I can't say I agree with the title but Buchanan really hammers shrub a crash cart pretty good.

[LTR]

1. Excuse me

:wow:

Damn, they're really jumping off the ship, aren't they?

[fishnfla]

2. I'm drunk or something. does he say he'll vote for Kerry? nt

[redstateblues]

3. I thought he was voting for Bush because or the Supreme Court

vacancies that will come open in the next four years.

[AmerDem]

6. yea , that's what i thought

He was on Hardball today and was kind of rough on Kerry. Raw Story is usually on the mark.

[JI7]

4. this could help with Reagan Dems who became Perot supporters

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

20. You just described my parents in the 80s and 90s

they were Reagan Dems who voted for Perot in 92. Now they are just Dems all the way. My mother worships the ground Clinton walks on.

[sonicx]

5. i'm surprised. On the Daily Show, he said he wouldn't vote for Kerry. nt

[redstateblues]

7. I just reread the post and it doesn't say he's voting for Kerry

or did I miss something?

[AmerDem]

8. title is misleading

says over "Iraq War" doesn't say endorses for presidency.

[sonicx]

13. oh ok, maybe i should have read the article

:D

[debatepro]

9. Fishy?

This smells a little fishy. A funny one liner would be --- you know your a fundamentalist when pat bucannan thinks your conservative.

[JI7]

10. i think he is saying Kerry is right to criticize Bush on IRAQ

[Mojambo]

11. I wonder what the Freepers think of this. n/t

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. Quite a lucid statement on the terrorists here:

They want to provoke a conflict that will radicalize the people of the Muslim world, turning them against the United States and the West.

But of course.
Acts of terrorism are not ends in themselves. They are intended to provoke and inspire future action to engage more combatants and bring yet more terrorism.
Bush played right into their playbook.

[quaoar]

14. Buchanan is not endorsing Kerry

Here is his full column. No mention of endorsement:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40677

[CatWoman]

15. HOLY

FUCK!!!!!!!

[debatepro]

16. ya its not an endorsement

but its pretty much saying kerry is getting the story right on iraq.

[fearnobush]

17. I would not call it an endorsment for Kerry.... Yet.

Read the whole editoral: <http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan14.html>
Pat asks 3 questions of what Kerry still needs to do.

"First, he must offer an exit strategy, a way out of Iraq. This he has not done. Second, he must explain why, if Iraq was a detour in the war on terror, he voted to give Bush a blank check to go to war. Why did he say, a month ago, that he would have voted to authorize an invasion, even had he known Iraq had no role in 9-11 and no weapons of mass destruction? "

[Rooktoven]

18. Not an endorsement, but

Pretty lucid analysis. (I didn't know _all_ the Kerry quotes. I thought "damn!"

[Name removed]

19. Deleted message

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[DemFromMem]

25. I got this email today

It was sent via a listserv for my professional association (lawyers). First non-work related politica message I've ever gotten in that forum. I suspect the sender of the message got chewed out, but I'm glad she sent it.

[ochazuke]

21. You should edit your subject line

He's not endorsing Kerry and he said he won't vote for Kerry because Kerry is on the other side of every other issue.

We might hope that Buchannan will come around because he does think that the Neocons are leading America into a series of ruinous wars.

[AmerDem]

24. you should read the article.

When you are done, write to the author and tell him.

[ochazuke]

37. I read the article

I didn't see an endorsement of the Kerry candidacy. If you mean an endorsement of his analysis of Kerry's assesment of the situation in Iraq, that's OK. But I think your subject line means that Pat Buchannan is voting for Kerry because of the war in Iraq.

[AmerDem]

41. No, your missing the entire point

You told me "I" should change the title of "MY" subject heading. It wasn't my title. I was only relating the title of the "actual" article.

If you read further down this thread the author and operator of that site "Raw Story" posted here to say he changed the title.

[gordianot]

22. OK

O'Lielly is also think about voting for Kerry.

I also have a winged flying pig and a choir of whistling clams.

[AmerDem]

26. any

chickens with lips?

[gordianot]

31. Not yet still looking for one.

[troublemaker]

23. Buchanan has said he is voting for Bush

His stated reason: more Antonin Scalias

[kentuck]

27. Never....

Buchanan was with Nixon when they were trying to snuff Kerry. He hates Kerry. He would never support him.

[LittleClarkie]

38. He might be somewhat over that by now

Watching the special on MSNBC a couple of weeks ago, they showed Kerry and Nixon having made amends. They also showed Buchanan being questioned about what Nixon would have thought of Kerry now.

Buchanan said he thought Nixon would respect Kerry and all he'd accomplished. Once you were at Nixon's level politically, he'd give you respect, he said.

It was a better comment than I was expecting. So I think Pat has the ability to be somewhat fair in regard to Kerry. Not completely by a long-shot, though.

[Bread and Circus]

28. Holy shit !

[Carla in Ca]

29. This is from last April...look closely

[umtalal]

30. Cool. The Man Cares.

[rawstory]

32. on EDIT --- from the blue lemur editor...

I changed the title to 'Buchanan endorses Kerry ON Iraq war' from 'Buchanan endorses Kerry over Iraq war,' just to make the headline a little more consistent with the article.

But have no doubt -- Buchanan is wholly in support of Kerry's position on this issue, as he has been against the Iraq invasion all along (as an isolationist).

peace.

[indie_voter]

33. Yes but he hasn't endorsed Kerry, only his position on Iraq. nt

[AmerDem]

34. Thanks for that update

It's a great article!:toast:

[LoZoccolo]

35. Quit spreading right-wing talking points.

:+

[Doosh]

36. Buchanan is also a Holocaust denier

so no, he's not our friend and not on our side. He sometimes makes some good points, but it paints a pretty scary picture when Pat Buchanan is the only sane conservative out there.

[Clinton Crusader]

39. I spit coffee across the room...

when I saw this, but this isnt an actual ENDORSEMENT...

is it?

:kick:

[npincus]

40. NOT an endorsement....BUT

a prety fair assessment that Kerry is finally speaking the truth and Bush & Co. are going for the jugular, playing th "patriot' card. The end of his piece is most telling:

"So, America is going to find out what the candidate they call "the Frenchman" is made of. And, frankly, we should, before we go to the polls. Stop the whining. Let's get it on."

That's the closest to an endorsement Kerry may get from Buchanan.

[demokatgurrl]

42. There has never been any love

between Buchanan and Bush. He'd probably vote for him because of the Supreme Court but he disagrees with Bush on a lot of things and it is clear that he doesn't like the man.