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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:51 PM
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Wanna bet you're gonna hear this shit on Thursday?
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:06 AM by TruthIsAll
Saddam was a murderer. My opponent thinks it would have been better to have him remain in power.

You cannot negotiate with terrorists as my opponent apparently would.

Saddam was a threat to the world. He gassed his own people and had the means to develop WMD.

If its a question of letting a dictator stay in power and remain a threat to the world, or protecting our nation, I will choose to protect our nation every time.

Our economy was recovering from the recession which began under my predecessor, but 9/11 changed everything and set it back. Our tax cuts have been working to get this economy moving upward again.

My opponent voted for the war before he voted against it.

We must eliminate the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Since 9/11, there have been no attacks on the homeland.

I would rather fight the terrorists in Iraq than on Wall Street.

Iraqis and Afghans are learning to appreciate Gods gift of freedom to mankind. They don't want to go back to the past.

The terrorists hate us for our freedoms.

My opponent served his country honorably in Viet Nam. He means well.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:56 PM
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1. "Saddam was a murderer. My opponent thinks..."
Reply:

Only an administration as inept as yours could remove Saddam Hussein and wind up making the world more dangerous.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:47 AM
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9. Quite excellent!
Best response I've heard to the Saddam thing. And lord knows it's true!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:47 AM
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10. Have you read this?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:34 AM
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17. Nice.
23.


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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:58 PM
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2. ...and my opponent is a consistent liar
....all Kerry has to do is bring up the other side of the Bush Flip. The Flop side, which is supposedly the truth side.
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:59 PM
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3. And every time Bush twists Kerry's words, JK can say...
...Bush has trouble with comprehension, he just can't seem to grasp wht JK is saying, what's being discussed, and what's at stake here. Really, it's troubling, as a voter, to see a president so incapable of understanding reality and facing up to it.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:07 AM
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21. brava
that's good
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:00 AM
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4. Of course. Bush has spent so much time memorizing those lines.
And you'd better believe Kerry is prepared for them.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:38 AM
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18. I hope to GOD Kerry is prepared for them. I hope he isn't being
prepped by the Mary Beth Cahills of the world, who assured him the swifties would "blow over." I hope they keep people like her locked up, tied up, and gagged, until this is over.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:17 AM
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23. Shrummy is worse...
Shrummy should be put on a cruise ship that does not return till after election day.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:33 AM
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5. Saddam was a CIA appointee
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:10 AM
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22. This Is The Deserved Reply That Only Gets Used In The Alternate Universe
the one where Kennedy's don't get assasinated and Presidents don't get picked by Supreme Court justices who are openly biased towards one candidate.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:36 AM
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6. I think a lot of people even bush* supporters
are sick of hearing this shit.

He is a one trick pHony imo
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:38 AM
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8. Was that picture with Green Day taken on the Letterman set? n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:07 AM
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11. yes it was
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:37 AM
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7. I would rather fight the terrorists over there than over here
It only takes one terrorist slipping past our porous borders to cause damage. It only took 17 to kill 3,000 people. While you're in la la land, Mr. Bush, you've once again failed the American people by neglecting to take the necessary steps and commit funding for Homeland Security.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:04 AM
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12. Answer: "My Opponent lives In A Fantasy World Of Spin"
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 02:23 AM by demwing2
Saddam was a murderer. My opponent thinks it would have been better to have him remain in power.

A: "Only in your world of spin, George. The world is obviously better off without Saddam, but in the mean time you've lost focus on our most eminent enemy, Osama Bin Laden. Your not even sure whether Osama is a priority or not."

You cannot negotiate with terrorists as my opponent apparently would.

A: "Apparently, George Bush thinks using diplomacy with our allies is the same as negotiating with terrorists. The spin is so thick here, this mis-administratiom can't tell the difference between our newest enemies and our oldest allies."

Saddam was a threat to the world. He gassed his own people and had the means to develop WMD.

A: "Saddam was a controlled threat, Osama Bin Laden is a hostile, rogue element. Faced with the choice of pursuing a controlled Saddam, or the evil man behind 9/11, George Bush believed in and bought his own spin, and made the wrong choice."

If its a question of letting a dictator stay in power and remain a threat to the world, or protecting our nation, I will choose to protect our nation every time.

A: "This administration pretends that pursuing Osama Bin Laden, the man behind the worst attack against America civilians in the history of the country, would somehow put America at greater risk. That's a complete fantasy. I don't buy it, and I don't believe America buys it either."

Our economy was recovering from the recession which began under my predecessor, but 9/11 changed everything and set it back. Our tax cuts have been working to get this economy moving upward again.

A: "All of the noise from the Republican Party's fantasy spin machine won't change the fact that under George Bush, America is shipping good paying jobs overseas, and created low paying jobs that lack essential health care benefits. If George Bush thinks that the average American was helped by his tax cuts for the wealthy, he's even more out of touch than anyone suspected."

My opponent voted for the war before he voted against it.

A: "There you spin again, George. The truth is that I voted to trust you with America's future, and you broke that trust. Worse yet, you blame me for having trusted you in the first place! It's time this administration stopped buying into its own fantasies and began accepted responsibility for their failures in Afghanistan and Iraq."

We must eliminate the soft bigotry of low expectations.

A: "I don't know if you want to do that George, it's been the spinning of those low expectations that have defined your so called succes as a president."

Since 9/11, there have been no attacks on the homeland.

A: "The worst attack on the homeland since 9/11 is the Justice Department's attack on the US Constitution through the Patriot Act. The Conventional Spin from this administration says that the only danger to our freedoms comes from overseas terrorism, but the truth is that under this administration, the tree of freedom has to first be protected right here at home."

I would rather fight the terrorists in Iraq than on Wall Street.

A: "The problem is that until the war, Iraq wasn't a terrorist stronghold, but now it is. This administration's rush to war--without a plan to win that war--created that problem, and no amount of spin can change that truth."

Iraqis and Afghans are learning to appreciate Gods gift of freedom to mankind. They don't want to go back to the past.

A: "No one wants to go back to the past, except maybe conservative Republicans...and its obvious that the Iraqi people will be better off with democracy--but that's a distraction. No one is arguing that. The real discussion, the discussion that this administration doesn't want to have, is whether or not America is safer, whether Americans are better off than they were in the past. Even through the spin, American's can see that the answer is no."

The terrorists hate us for our freedoms.

A: "Even if this were true, what does it mean? Should we give up our freedoms so that the terrorists hate us less? Is that the future that George Bush wants for America? I say we can do better."

My opponent served his country honorably in Viet Nam. He means well.

A: "More than that George, I know better because my service in Viet Nam taught me better. I know better than to rush the United States into a war without a plan to win, I know better than to create a fantasy world of spin and lies to justify that rush to war, and I know better than to lose focus on who are your true friends and enemies. My opponent also served his country honorably. Why doesn't he know better?
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:33 PM
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30. If only it would follow that exact script, that'd be fantastic!!
I would only add 1 line to the last answer;
I asked this question once before about a war, "Who will ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?", george, why do you want to repeat the mistake?
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Joe Turner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:17 AM
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13. In Shrub's Bubble
Saddam is worse than Osama bin Laden because at least the bin Laden family contributed some serious dollars to Bush Dynasty Inc. while Saddam got behind in his payments.


And of course, Shrub's gutted economy is always "turning the corner", just like it did during the Great Depression. So much propaganda, so little time.
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katusha Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:29 AM
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14. Since 9/11, there have been no attacks on the homeland.
this is an outright lie and if he says this in the debates kerry needs to pounce on it.

anthrax!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:10 AM
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15. Here's what I'd Like to hear:
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 03:11 AM by impeachdubya
"If my opponent is so interested in fighting religious fundamentalism, why is he accepting the endorsement of men who blamed 9-11 on gays and secular humanists?"

"If the platform of my opponent's party is written into law, the birth control pill would become criminalized. Why does my opponent want to put American women in prison for taking the birth control pill?"

"My opponent likes to claim that he is keeping America safe from terrorism. So maybe he can explain why his justice department deports known terrorists with connections to Sept. 11, like Nabil Al-Marabh, while incarcerating innocent teenagers for years at places like Gitmo and Abu Ghraib"

"If the terrorists hate us for our freedoms, then doesn't letting John Ashcroft take away those freedoms mean the terrorists win?"

"I believe in an America where free discourse is patriotic and dissent is not only tolerated, but welcomed- my opponent doesn't. I believe in an America that can lead the world while still extending the hand of friendship and cooperation to other nations- my opponent doesn't. I believe in an America where citizens' faith is strong enough that they don't need the federal government to impose it on their fellow man- my opponent doesn't. I believe in an America that is mighty enough to defend itself abroad without destroying fundamental liberties at home- My opponent doesn't."
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:31 AM
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16. kick
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:45 AM
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19. You know what's wrong with the replies written in this thread??
They explain and they use more than two-three words. The reason the people "swallow" Bush shit is because it is both on the offensive and in the words of a twelve year old. Kerry has to have an offense (not a debate---get the difference?) and he has to not give more than one visual at a time in simple sentences. And that's why the media all have their scripts written to tell the people how Bush was so forceful and Kerry just doesn't have the anwers to anything (they will never note that Bush's soundbites have no answer to anything).
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:52 AM
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24. Please put up some examples
of how anyone could possibly answer these in two to three words. I tried to keep the answers short and on theme (fantasy world of spin), but theres only so much you can do.

I'm not slamming you, I'm genuinely interested in hearing how you would solve this.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:07 AM
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20. Bush could just mail this in and be done with it. This is probably ALL
we'll hear from him!
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:02 PM
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25. my suggested responses
Saddam was a murderer. My opponent thinks it would have been better to have him remain in power.

Saddam was an old, fat smoker. My opponent thought it was worth ??? billion dollars and more than a thousand American lives to do what time would have done in a few years.

You cannot negotiate with terrorists as my opponent apparently would.

My opponent negotiated with the terrorists who horrified the world by attacking a school in Russia bla bla bla

Saddam was a threat to the world. He gassed his own people and had the means to develop WMD.

Where ARE those WMD Mr. President? Do you even claim to care?

If its a question of letting a dictator stay in power and remain a threat to the world, or protecting our nation, I will choose to protect our nation every time.

Did you choose to protect our nation during the Vietnam War?

Our economy was recovering from the recession which began under my predecessor, but 9/11 changed everything and set it back. Our tax cuts have been working to get this economy moving upward again.

You fought for tax cuts even as we needed that revenue to protect our men and women in uniform. And there has been no recovery: anyone who has eyes can see this.

My opponent voted for the war before he voted against it.

I voted to give you authority, and you betrayed my trust.

We must eliminate the soft bigotry of low expectations.

The President sends our young people to die and all he offers them in return is standardized tests and a bleak job market.

Since 9/11, there have been no attacks on the homeland.
I would rather fight the terrorists in Iraq than on Wall Street.

What terrorists in Iraq? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and you haven't caught any terrorists lately, Mr. President.

Iraqis and Afghans are learning to appreciate Gods gift of freedom to mankind. They don't want to go back to the past.

Iraq is experiencing the worst violence in its history, and Afghanistan is controlled by warlords. These aren't gifts from God. They come courtesy of your mishandling of the two wars.

The terrorists hate us for our freedoms.

This administration has been the first to take freedom away from Americans, instead of expanding their freedoms.

My opponent served his country honorably in Viet Nam. He means well.

Where were you, George (hahahaha-I'm-being-funny tone)
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:12 PM
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26. For the "rather fight the terrorists in Iraq" BS, Kerry could say...
"We're not fighting terrorists in Iraq, we are fighting Iraqis -- shopkeepers, farmers, laborers, former soldiers. Meanwhile, the real terrorists -- al Qaida and similar groups -- have been unhindered in establishing networks running from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan to Malaysia to the Philippines. Anyone who thinks that the world's terrorists are confined to Iraq is simpleminded."
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:59 PM
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27. The dictator is practicing today. But he says the same shit every day.
Cheney him!
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:06 PM
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28. Your daddy thought so
Why didn't he finish the job? Because he knew a unstable Iraq threatens middle east peace. Dumbass!
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:22 PM
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29. guaranteed
check em all off.
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