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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 08:59 PM
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Campaigning in Wisconsin on Saturday, What would
you suggest bringing along to maybe hand to Bush supporters for them to read. I was thinking of Making up a "Search for Truth, Vote with Knowledge" Flyer listing some columnists, News web sites, things that are short and easily digested and readily accepted by the Repubs. A site like this would probably not be trusted, so does anybody have any suggestions?

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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:03 PM
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1. Truth and Responsibility
Bush's fallen credibility and his failure to take responsibility have the most resonance, for sure. Problem is that so many of the websites with great information, like mediamatters.org, sound like campaign literature. You need something that sounds objective, maybe a link to Krugman?
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:16 PM
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7. Krugman sounds like a pretty good idea!
If I knew that the Repubs would respect Krugmanns opinion this would be a great way to talk to them!
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:04 PM
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2. There have been many flyers posted lately. Go look
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:14 PM
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6. Gee Thanks!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:05 PM
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3. i like this one-- Bush Flip Flops
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:13 PM
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5. Thank you
I have #1 and #3, #2 looks pretty good. I just would like to give some Repubs some references from sources that they would respect and have some trust in.

I know people like Charley Rose USED to be Republican and is now against Bush

I think that Krugman is a real critic, but would he be accepted by the Repubs?

Lou Dobbs has been going off on Gw to

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:22 PM
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10. on number 2 site, poke around, there is plenty with sources n/t
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:11 PM
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4. Write up an explanation of Kerry's work on BCCI.
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 09:12 PM by gcomeau
And let them chew on that with the accompanying none-too-subtle explanation that ONE of the candidates has the knowledge, experience, and will to fight terror on ALL fronts and do it effectively, not just throw soldiers at the problem and hope not too many of them get killed while creating more terrorists.

And if they come back that Kerry voted for that war, CORRECT THEM! Bring a copy of the use of force authorization and SHOW them the conditions that were imposed in the bill! Stop letting them get away with that nonsense, it wasn't a war declaration he voted for.

-Grant
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:16 PM
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8. Here's the best article for Kerry's work to shut down terrorists' banks.
The question from reporters SHOULD be WHY did so many in the Bush1 administration try to STOP Kerry from exposing the funding of terrorism?

And isn't there a likely relationship between those efforts and the Bush2 administration's attempt to stop the 9-11 investigations?

This article makes an AMAZINGLY CONVINCING printout. Plus, you can suggest they research themselves and do a search on BCCI, Kerry and Bush and see what they find.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html

September 2004
Follow the Money
How John Kerry busted the terrorists' favorite bank.
By David Sirota and Jonathan Baskin
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Two decades ago, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a highly respected financial titan. In 1987, when its subsidiary helped finance a deal involving Texas oilman George W. Bush, the bank appeared to be a reputable institution, with attractive branch offices, a traveler's check business, and a solid reputation for financing international trade. It had high-powered allies in Washington and boasted relationships with respected figures around the world.

All that changed in early 1988, when John Kerry, then a young senator from Massachusetts, decided to probe the finances of Latin American drug cartels. Over the next three years, Kerry fought against intense opposition from vested interests at home and abroad, from senior members of his own party; and from the Reagan and Bush administrations, none of whom were eager to see him succeed.

By the end, Kerry had helped dismantle a massive criminal enterprise and exposed the infrastructure of BCCI and its affiliated institutions, a web that law enforcement officials today acknowledge would become a model for international terrorist financing. As Kerry's investigation revealed in the late 1980s and early 1990s, BCCI was interested in more than just enriching its clients--it had a fundamentally anti-Western mission. Among the stated goals of its Pakistani founder were to "fight the evil influence of the West," and finance Muslim terrorist organizations. In retrospect, Kerry's investigation had uncovered an institution at the fulcrum of America's first great post-Cold War security challenge.

More than a decade later, Kerry is his party's nominee for president, and terrorist financing is anything but a back-burner issue. The Bush campaign has settled on a new strategy for attacking Kerry: Portray him as a do-nothing senator who's weak on fighting terrorism. "After 19 years in the Senate, he's had thousands of votes, but few signature achievements," President Bush charged recently at a campaign rally in Pittsburgh; spin that's been echoed by Bush's surrogates, conservative pundits, and mainstream reporters alike, and by a steady barrage of campaign ads suggesting that the one thing Kerry did do in Congress was prove he knew nothing about terrorism. Ridiculing the senator for not mentioning al Qaeda in his 1997 book on terrorism, one ad asks: "How can John Kerry win a war if he doesn't know the enemy?"
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But legislation is only one facet of a senator's record. As the BCCI investigation shows, Kerry developed a very different record of accomplishment--one often as vital, if not more so, than passage of bills. Kerry's probe didn't create any popular new governmental programs, reform the tax code, or eliminate bureaucratic waste and fraud. Instead, he shrewdly used the Senate's oversight powers to address the threat of terrorism well before it was in vogue, and dismantled a key terrorist weapon. In the process, observers saw a senator with tremendous fortitude, and a willingness to put the public good ahead of his own career. Those qualities might be hard to communicate to voters via one-line sound bites, but they would surely aid Kerry as president in his attempts to battle the threat of terrorism.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:20 PM
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9. soften them up with PAT BUCHANAN
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 09:21 PM by buycitgo
his new book, the stuff from his conservomag

there's GREAT work in there by Karen Kwiatkowski, the AF colonel who worked for the OSP bunch, mostly
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