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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:43 PM
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Poll question: What part about Kucinich's statement are the corporate suck-ups angry about the most?
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 04:06 PM by brentspeak
The things he mentioned that they don't want the general public to know about or be reminded about?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:45 PM
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1. I thought people were upset about the actual vote?
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 04:00 PM by skipos
Can you add that to your poll?

Me, I don't care all that much one way or another.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:49 PM
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2. You left off...
...on the present question, "Nay".
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:53 PM
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3. Kucinich knew the bill was going to pass without his vote; but he needed to make his statement
Somebody needed to get up and say what needed to be said. It would have looked kind of dumb for him to vote 'yea' and then make the statement.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:10 PM
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5. It's called grandstanding, especially when it contradicts previous statements.

Kucinich Strengthens Health Care Bill

Secures Four Amendments in Health Care Reform Bill

Washington, Jul 17 -

In addition to securing a historic victory for states single-payer health care, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today won adoption of four other amendments in HR 3200, Americas Affordable Health Choices Act. The Kucinich amendments:

drive down the cost and increase the access of prescription drugs by ending the pharmaceutical industrys practice of manipulating physician prescribing habits to pharmaceutical representatives;
ending the insurance industry practice of raising costs or decreasing coverage for Americans during the time Americans are not allowed to switch plans;
require the disclosure of insurance company costs like advertising and marketing costs, as well as executive compensation, that use consumers money to increase profits instead of covering care;
improve access to integrative medicine by requiring its consideration for standard coverage and by requiring the identification of integrative medicine providers .

With the addition of this language, this is a stronger bill that will protect Americans and hold health insurance companies accountable to their customers, said Kucinich.

(emphasis added)

I fairly certain the bill still accomplishes these objectives.

There are also a lot of other great things in the bill:

Starting next year, private insurers could no longer deny anyone coverage based on preexisting conditions, place lifetime limits on coverage or abandon people when they become ill. Insurers would be required to disclose and justify proposed premium increases to regulators, and could not remove adult children younger than 27 from their parents family policies.

For the elderly, the group that has been most skeptical of Obamas initiative, the House package would immediately offer discounts on prescription drugs and reduce a gap in Medicare prescription drug coverage, closing it entirely by 2019. Uninsured people who cannot get coverage could join temporary high-risk insurance pools, and unemployed workers would be permitted to keep their COBRA benefits until the public plan and insurance exchanges started in 2013.

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For all Americans, this legislation makes a big difference: no discrimination for pre-existing medical conditions, no dropped coverage if you are sick, no co-pays for preventive care. There is a cap on what you pay in but there is no cap on the benefits that you receive. It works for seniors closing the donut hole, offering better primary care, and strengthening Medicare for years to come. It works for women preventing insurance companies from charging women more than men for the same coverage. No longer will being a woman be a pre-existing medical condition.

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Supporters of gay rights have long been trying to change the tax treatment of health benefits provided by employers to the domestic partners of their employees. In effect, such benefits are now treated as taxable income for the employee, and the employer may owe payroll taxes on their fair-market value.

Under the bill, such benefits would be tax-free, just like health benefits provided to the family of an employee married to a person of the opposite sex.

Representative Jim McDermott, Democrat of Washington, who proposed the change, said it would correct a longstanding injustice, end a blatant inequity in the tax code and help make health care coverage more affordable for more Americans.

Joseph R. Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights advocacy group, said federal tax law had not kept up with changes in the workplace.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:11 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:13 PM
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7. Facts make you uncomfortable, don't they? n/t
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:18 PM
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9. the bill they voted on was 3962, not 3200. Get it straight.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:21 PM
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10. July 2009
This was a different bill but you need to continue your distortions like you always do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdVVt_jXJvM
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:03 PM
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4. All of the above
Dennis speaks the truth, and the insurance company shills hate it.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:32 PM
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8. Mostly I think what they are angry about is
that the one person who stands up and says what he thinks (all well researched and supported by fact) and does what he thinks is in the best interest of his district (and all people really) is "little Dennis elf man alien lover".

They don't like being reminded that there are principles here that really should count more than "winning". Somehow winning, being elected at all costs, having the most and the power is all that really matters now because for some reason all thought and all trust is being left at the feet and will of the party a very dangerous place to rest your life.

Gooooo team! It looks like shit, it tastes like shit but it is our shit so we love it.
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