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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:56 PM
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Official RIDICULE, DERISION & SARCASM thread.
dumpster_baby suggested that well-reasoned responses to hyperbolic accusations don't make it on the 6:00 news. So, as a resource for Kerry campaign lurkers, please post your snappiest comebacks and choicest comments for the campaign and its representatives to use when they go on camera.

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:56 PM
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1. Lying for truth is like fornicating for virginity.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:57 PM
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2. The Swiftboat Liars for Truth have about as much credibility
as the forged documents Bush started a war with.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:58 PM
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3. PROOF that Swiftboat Veterans are LIARS!
Larry Thurlow, one of the lying Swiftboat Veterans:
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/york/york200407301059.asp

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Thurlow says that Kerry's version of the events of March 13, 1969, is simply wrong. "His story is a total fabrication," Thurlow says. One of the Swift Boats did hit a mine that day, Thurlow says, but much of the rest of Kerry's story is inaccurate. "This thing about being under intense enemy fire is a falsehood...There was no fire off either bank . This thing about getting Jim out of the river under a hail of bullets with these serious injuries is totally fabricated."
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The lie exposed:
http://www.thehistorynet.com/ah/blkerryinvietnam/index3.html

Larry Thurlow received a bronze star for a fire fight he now says did not occur!



AND

George Elliott lying:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5694561/

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HURLEY: This is from George Elliott, one of John Kerry‘s commanders in Vietnam. This is the recommendation for the award of the Bronze Star. And he talks about a little bit in this.

Then he says: “Shortly after starting their exit from this river, a mine detonated under one of the boats, PCF-3, lifting it two feet above the water and wounded everyone on board. Almost simultaneously, another mine detonated, close aboard PCF-94, knocking First Lieutenant Rassmann into the water and wounding Lieutenant J.G. Kerry in the right arm.” It goes on that PCF-4 provided cover fire, that they received sniper fire from the riverbanks. “Lieutenant J.G. Kerry, from his exposed position on the bow of the boat, managed to pull Lieutenant Rassmann aboard despite the painful wound in his right arm.

“Meanwhile, PCF-94 gunners provided accurate suppressing fire.” It concludes by saying: “Lieutenant J.G. Kerry proved himself to be calm, professional and highly courageous in the face of enemy fire.” That is signed by George Elliott, one of these same guys now who is saying, oh, but I remember it differently and I want to change my mind.
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http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231

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What Elliott said in the ad is that Kerry "has not been honest about what happened in Viet Nam." In his original affidavit Elliott said Kerry had not been "forthright" in Vietnam. The only example he offered of Kerry not being "honest" or "forthright" was this: "For example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back.

In the Globe story, Elliott is quoted as saying it was a "terrible mistake" to sign that statement:

George Elliott (Globe account): It was a terrible mistake probably for me to sign the affidavit with those words. I'm the one in trouble here. . . . I knew it was wrong . . . In a hurry I signed it and faxed it back. That was a mistake.
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4998.shtml

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Another prominent figure in the anti-Kerry book as well as the ad denouncing Kerry, retired Lt. Commander George Elliott, recanted his statement last week in interviews with at least two news sources and then recounted his recant. Elliott also supported Kerry in his 1996 campaign and told a Boston audience that he felt the Senator "deserved the medals he won in Vietnam."

O’Neill further destroyed his credibility by appearing on CNN after assuring the network he had not spoke out publicly about Kerry this year. CNN later had to retract their claim of an “exclusive” interview after they learned O’Neill appeared on C-Span to discuss Kerry in March.
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Elliott Praises Kerry in 1969 Report

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Elliott had a much different opinion of Kerry at the time than in the ad. In a fitness report on Kerry, dated Dec. 18, 1969, he stated that "in a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action LTJG Kerry was unsurpassed...LTJG Kerry emerges as the acknowledged leader in his peer group."
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Elliott also said he voted for Gore. I find that very hard to believe considering he's donated to the GOP. Elliott is a pathological liar. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.


AND

Hibbard has not revealed that he was Kerry's CO for only two weeks and never wrote a performance review for Kerry.


AND

Hoffman has been called a Kurtz-like psychopath.


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Capt. Roy Hoffmann: "I told them you not only have authority," Hoffmann now says, "I damned well expect action. If there were men there and they didn’t kill them or capture them, you’d hear from me."
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Also, Hoffman is a liar:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4998.shtml

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“They seek retribution by fabricating stories to destroy Kerry,” Brinkley says. “Hoffman, in particular lacks credibility.”

On May 6, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter Steve Schultze, interviewed Hoffman and wrote “Hoffmann acknowledged he had no first-hand knowledge to discredit Kerry's claims to valor and said that although Kerry was under his command, he really didn't know Kerry much personally.”

On August 5, however, Hoffman told Sean Hannity on his ABC radio show that "I knew him (Kerry) well, because I operated very closely with him and, uh, many of the operations, uh, most of the operations were-were conducted with multiple boats."
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AND

Merrie Spaeth is the Communications Director for the Swiftboat Veterans group and is a staunch GOP supporter.


AND

Their website is funded by a Missouri Republican with close ties to John Ashcroft.


AND

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/5/4/132751.shtml

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“It is our collective judgment that, upon your return from Vietnam, you grossly and knowingly distorted the conduct of the American soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen of that war (including a betrayal of many of us, without regard for the danger your actions caused us.) Further, we believe that you have withheld and/or distorted material facts as to your own conduct in this war.”

But it is with regard to the latter sentence of the charge that O’Neill and others get vague.

When asked by NewsMax if they had in mind any potential smoking gun of distortion that might be revealed by an unfettered examination of Kerry’s military records, there was no answer forthcoming.
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AND

Who is Steve Gardner?
Swift Boat Vet "eyewitness" was not present for events leading to Kerry's medals or Purple Hearts
http://mediamatters.org/items/200408240001

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Gardner admitted that "he was not on the boat with Kerry during the incidents for which Kerry got his medals," reported The Columbus Dispatch on August 6. And as a guest on Michael Savage's radio show, Savage Nation, on August 2, Gardner said that of Kerry's three Purple Hearts, he could only attest to the first; Gardner later admitted to Savage that he was "not on the boat with him " when that injury occurred...

...in at least two interviews, Gardner has falsely claimed that he was present for the incidents leading to Kerry's receipt of awards...

...In an apparent attempt to substantiate his status as an eyewitness to key Kerry events, Gardner claimed on Scarborough Country, "hat boat never left the dock that I wasn't aboard it with John Kerry, never. I was with that boat everywhere we went." Gardner went on to make assertions regarding the events that occurred on March 13, 1969, involving Kerry's rescue of Jim Rassmann, for which Kerry received the Bronze Star. Gardner claimed to know that Kerry fled the scene on the river that day while the other three boats stayed and that Kerry then "turned around and came all the way back to pick up Mr. Rassmann that he had thrown off his boat when he took off, when he fled down the canal." But later in the show, Gardner admitted to not being present that day. When Scarborough attempted to revisit the "March 13, 1969 incident," Gardner said, "I'm not going to deal with that. Because I wasn't there."...

...On the August 2 broadcast of Savage Nation, Gardner himself claimed that all of the wounds for which Kerry received Purple Hearts "were superficial wounds, and I mean very superficial, scratches. The very first one is the only one that I can actually attest to because I was there when that wound happened." But Gardner was not there when Kerry sustained that wound; as noted above, Gardner went on to admit: "I was not on the boat with him but I -- in the next three days following that, I was with him on the boat going to take our new position up down there on the seaward operations."
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And John O'Neill in his lie:

Swift Boat Writer Lied on Cambodia Claim
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040825/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_critic_swift_boats_1&printer=1
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:05 PM
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6. nobody CARES about such proof
The only people who would be interested in reading your proof, they have already made up their minds.

What Kerry needs to do is concentrate on creating witty, sarcastic. ridiculing soundbites that play off of the hot button issues: healthcare, Iraq, Bush Buard duty, the McJob Bush economy (the "do you want fries with that?" president), the healthcare situation ("Bush is the healthcare extortion president"?) etc.

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Kerry was there with boots on the ground
Bush wasn't. I see this more and more everywhere in LTTE.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:25 PM
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40. Shame on you
Swift boat Veterans, yours is the worst sort of lie. Not a lie to save another's feelings or even to protect yourselves. You lied to deceive others and to hurt your brother. There may not be a law against what you did, but there is a commandment that tells us you shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Once you served your country, but now you serve Satan.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #1
37. Fighting for peace is like lying for truth.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:01 PM
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4. It's the hypocrisy, stupid.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. It's the LYING, stupid.
And: It's the STUPIDITY, stupid.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #4
15. The "Photo-Op of Death"
All across America, service organizations are afraid to let Bush speak at their locations, because they think he'll cut their funding the very next day.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:02 PM
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5. Where did all the good jobs go? Maybe they're next to
the weapons of mass destruction.
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. How about The Bush "McJob Economy"?
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:08 PM
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8. How about "Bush is the "HMOs' Best Friend"?"
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #8
33. BUSH LOVES HMOs!
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:09 PM
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9. They say Bush served with Honor and Distinction.
But if that's true, why haven't they come forward to claim the $50,000 prize?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:11 PM
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12. Bush was AWOL on 9/11
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 03:12 PM by Stephanie
Commander Bunnypants.


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9:03 a.m.: A second hijacked airliner, United Airlines Flight 175 from Boston, crashes into the south tower of the World Trade Center and explodes. Both buildings are burning.

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9:30 a.m.: President Bush, speaking in Sarasota, Florida, says the country has suffered an "apparent terrorist attack."

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9:43 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, sending up a huge plume of smoke. Evacuation begins immediately.

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9:57 a.m.: Bush departs from Florida.

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack /

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At 12:39 word is that Bush has landed at a base near Shreveport, La. Incredibly, at 12:51, there is footage of a Taliban news conference by one Wakil Ahmed Mutawakel. It is difficult to absorb that Arafat and the Taliban have weighed in before Bush. Five minutes later ABC reports that in Shreveport "the president looked grim. His eyes were somewhat red." The only hard information is that there are no national security people traveling with the president. ABC's Peter Jennings, breaking protocol for news anchors, says forcefully that the country needs words from its president in Washington.

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1:08: More than three hours after the second tower collapsed. A taped message from President Bush. But the sound isn't transmitting, and the image is jerky. Then the image goes backwards. Then it goes off.

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2:35: Guiliani live again: "The number of casualties will be more than anyone can bear."

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3:30: Confirmation that Bush has landed at the Strategic Air Defense Command base near Omaha, Neb. ABC's Ann Compton, traveling with the president, is on the phone to Peter Jennings, whose inflection says it all: "Annie, can you hear me? What are you doing in Nebraska?"

When he asks where Bush is, she replies, "He disappeared down the rabbit hole, Peter."

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3:48: For the first time an administration official, White House counsel Karen Hughes, gives a live statement: "The president, vice-president, and speaker of the House are all safe." It is astonishing that this late in the day the White House has nothing more to say.

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At 6:41, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld gives a live press conference -- nearly nine hours after the towers collapsed, a cabinet-level official finally speaks.

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8:31: Nearly 12 hours after the attack began, 10 and a half after the towers collapsed, President George W. Bush reads a speech live from the Oval Office.

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http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2001-10-05/cols_ventura.html

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. "Had I known that terrorists were going to use planes to kill,
I would have done everything in my power to finish the story about the goat, then high-tail it to a hole in Nebraska."
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:12 PM
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13. "Did Bush even read the Hart-Rudman report?"
10 to 1 says he didn't.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:12 PM
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14. Take the name Bush away from George and you've got a man
who's failed at every business venture he ever attempted. You've got an below-average-joe.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:13 PM
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16. Looks like Bush is going AWOL from the debates, too!
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 03:18 PM by rocknation
Whoever heard of an AWOL commander-in-chief?

On edit: I loved Kerry's line about Cheney's cursing: "If you think he's cursing now, wait until November 2."

:headbang:
rocknation
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:18 PM
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18. ...That's the spirit....Keep 'em coming, people.
:bounce:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:19 PM
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19. Bush is so weak on defense he coudn't even complete the
cushy service he got to get out of Viet Nam!

:headbang:
rocknation
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Bush had an exit strategy for the Guard, but not for Iraq
Someone else gave me that one....
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #19
46. bush is so weak on defense he couldn't even secure his own convention.
REPEAT as necessary.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:22 PM
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20. Bush wants the debates limited to one hour and
wants to have Cheney there with him.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Sidebar: favorite nicknames (TV friendly, please)
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Condescenda
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
47. Contradicta. Dr. Do-Little.
Or maybe Convoluta.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Crusader Bunnypants
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. The Connecticut Cowboy
who can't ride a horse
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #21
32. The Coward of Crawford
.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #21
57. The Texas Sidestep
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #21
63. "Chicken George"
:bounce:
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Flailey Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:25 PM
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25. Here's some derision and sarcasm.
I think it's dumb that you have to post lots of times before you can start your own thread.

But back on topic -- I think "the excuse president" is the first time EVER in Kerry's campaign where he's hit a home run. That phrase resonates.
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. Bush is the "Excuse President", "The Blame President"
He is already using that, I think. But I saw it here on DU a few days before I heard Kerry say it.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #28
48. bush is the buck-stops-somewhere-else president.
Or maybe "the buck-stops-in-his-pocket president."
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #25
31. Welcome to DU, and yes, "excuse president" is great.
So often, it's "blame somebody else."

As to being unable to start a thread...that's to discourage the freepers from making too many of their own threads. But they make it through sometimes anyway. 10 or 20 posts I think is all you need.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:27 PM
Response to Original message
27. George hides behind Jesus to kill Mohammed
The war was for political advantage.
He kills things he doesn't like.
He thinks he's the son of god, but acts like the Son of Sam.
Real men admit mistakes.
Only sissies hero-worship a cheerleader.

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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:29 PM
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29. The Bush Economy is the "Do You want Fries with that" Economy
Bush is The "Do You want Fries with that" President
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:29 PM
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30. Bush: "You know where I stand"


Kerry: "Yeah...At the front of the line"


YukYukYuk!

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #30
49. Yeah - right on my back.
Or - for women - right in our wombs.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #49
56. You have a knack for this, calimary!
:D
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
34. D.L. Hughley: Bush bombs anything he can't spell.
"How do you spell 'Baghdad'?"
:nuke:"BOOM! That's how I spell it!"
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:49 PM
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35. "What do you expect from the 'Blame Clinton First' crowd?"
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:52 PM
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36. The Bush Credibility gap.
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on this (whatever) issue...
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on the economy.
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on his service.
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on the reason for the war.
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on taxes.
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on the environment.
Repeat. The Bush Credibility gap on etc...

Just keep saying it.

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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. A Healthcare savings account is meaningless when you make $7/hour
Bush's healthcare plan will do nothing to help the poor and nearly-poor of our country...and is yet another tax-shelter for the wealthy.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:23 PM
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39. Americans are smart enough to handle the truth.
Bush has lied to Americans which means he thinks we're too dumb to handle the truth.

Bush isn't steadfast, he's stuborn. He won't change his mind even when he's wrong.

If Cheney thinks the terrorists will hit if I'm elected, why did they hit on 9/11 right after he was elected?

Actually, guns do kill people. (favorite button)

Stamp out mad cowboy disease. (favorite bumpersticker)

It takes courage and character to admit you were wrong. Bush can't admit he was wrong.

It is better to feel grateful for what you have than to feel entitled to what you have for only with gratitude comes grace, humility and empathy.

Cicero said patriotism is gratitude, gratitude to one's fellow citizens for agreeing to live together. He was right, we must foster true patriotism, not divisions or nationalism. (I know, too long, too cerebrial but its true.)

People aren't evil, ideologies are.

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #39
58. REALLY like that one about character!
Like Rove says...attack their perceived strengths!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:28 PM
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41. "Four more countries, four more countries, four more countries!"
Hmm, let's see: Syria, Iran, Venezuela and one to be determined by oil wealth and vulnerability...
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. Four more Quagmires! Four more Quagmires!
.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:34 PM
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42. This one isn't exactly snappy and sarcastic but...
If the topic gets around to Bush's "youthful indiscretions" a good comeback might go something like this:

"The president has been getting a pass for his "youthful indiscretions". I suppose as a man of wealth and privledge it is his right to have "youthful indiscretions" that stretch well into his 40s. But it's a shame that so many American soldiers will never have that chance. Their youth was stolen from them the day they were sent overseas to fight Bush's war."

This could obviously be written more snappily and succinctly. But the point is to draw a parallel between the soldiers of Vietnam and Iraq who had their youth stolen away from them and Bush who had the luxury to commit "youthful indiscretions" at Camp David in his (40s? I'm not sure.).
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:41 PM
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44. Too bad 1000 soldiers had to replace their youthful indiscretions
with courage under fire.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:00 PM
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61. There ya go. I knew it could be distilled down somehow :) -nt-
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:04 PM
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52. Good stuff, ContinentalOp and sangh0
Both are great...the first could play on the NewsHour, the second could be slipped in on Crossfire.
:)
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:39 PM
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43. snarky comment in my sig
I don't know if it's too dated by now though.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:02 PM
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50. W: The Cowardly Tin Scarecrow...if he only had a brain, a heart AND
courage.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:08 PM
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54. Funny!
You probably already know about the Zogby poll question in 2000 (Who would you support for Mayor of Oz--the tin man or the scarecrow? Brain but no heart, or heart but no brain? The answer came back tied 46.2%-46.2%).
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:15 PM
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59. Ha, I didn't know but that is a good one! Why tradeoff when you can
have all 3 in one? :-)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:04 PM
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51. If you say "9/11 Changed Everything"...
...then you're saying THE TERRORISTS REALLY DID WIN.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:05 PM
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53. Now THAT is devastating!!
A knock-out punch!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:09 PM
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55. Why didn't George Bush want the 9/11 commission?
Is there something he doesn't want us to know?
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:01 PM
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60. georgebushytail.com <- Crude webcomic Bushkicking
"George Bushytail was born with a golden spoon up his nose."

Biggest collection of naked George Bush Action Figures on the net.

Our motto: Be crude, angry, vicious - They've killed children.

http://www.georgebushytail.com

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:12 PM
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62. All Offense and no Defense is no way to win
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