A little girl started crying when people ripped up her Bush/Cheney sign...

[LoZoccolo]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

...and to that I say:

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Kids cry when they get punished, right? Well, what's the difference here - she got punished for being a proto-fascist! It takes a village to raise a child - especially when the dad's obviously not doing his job.

[Lex]

1. Was her father using her as a protest prop?

Yuck.

[LoZoccolo]

4. I know, that's pathetic, using your kid as a human shield...

...to go heckling or whatever.

[w4rma]

80. Worse. Her father was using her to engage in fraud. He's done this before.

UPDATED AND CONDENSED PARLOCK INFO- DEAD TO RIGHTS!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=829092&mesg_id=829092
Evidence that the crying girl was staged (a summary)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x829409
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=828458&mesg_id=828458
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_09_12_atrios_archive.html#109542699935507535
http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2004/09/bogus-assault-father-freeper-of-year.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x829182

[bobbieinok]

93. THIS WAS FAKE, STAGED ....SEE du THREAD and READ IT

Part of 'original message'

....

As the little girl’s photo circulated the internet, many members of Democratic Underground questioned the incident. After scouring the internet, they discovered that the photographer, Randy Snyder, who captured the image of the crying toddler, is chief photo editor of one newspaper that has frequently featured Phil Parlock’s conservative activism and interned with another newspaper that carried article about Parlock. Therefore, the photograph was not just a lucky shot by some AP photographer who happened to witness the ugly scene. Could Snyder and Parlock have planned the nasty shot? Could they have been working in collusion? Would a true journalist stoop so low? (4)

But there’s an additional twist—a twist that demonstrates just how twisted men like Parlock can be. One very perceptive DUer found a photograph of the Parlock clan on the internet—at the Herald-Dispatch website, which employs camerabug Snyder—and she noticed that one of the older sons bears a striking resemblance to the union worker who accosted Parlock’s shouldered daughter:

....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=829409

[Fleshdancer]

2. I don't find the humor in treating children this way

I don't care who her parents are or what sign they wanted her to hold up. There is no excuse for acting more childish than the actual child.

If the sign said Kerry/Edwards, we would all be extremely pissed off.

[LittleClarkie]

7. Thank you Gloria

You are a goddess.

[physaf]

36. children should not be misused in this way

i don't care what the sign said - you have to leave her alone.

[faithfulcitizen]

60. I don't either, it's unacceptable...

but somebody ought to tell the poor girl's asshole for a father, not to put in that position in the 1st place. whadda jerk...

[Pushed To The Left]

88. I agree with you

Whoever ripped up the little girl's sign is actually hurting our side with his or her actions.

[aquart]

3. And now she remembers liberals as mean nasty people. Brilliant.

NOBODY should do that to a child. Come to think of it, they had a bloody nerve if they were doing it to adults.

We are, still, allowed our own (or our parents) opinions in this nation, and that sign was legal.

You're laughing and I am completely disgusted.

[antigone382]

91. except that a liberal didn't actually rip up the sign

Her brother did.

This father has been trying to slander Democrats for years, and apparently has no qualms about using his family to do it.

[robbedvoter]

5. Ugly. Take on someone your own size.

[quaoar]

6. Sorry

But I think it's pathetic to go after a 4-year-old girl.

Get a grip.

[XanaDUer]

9. I agree.

It's not her fault she is the daughter to a * supporter.

[LittleClarkie]

11. Yes! The sane thread!

I've FOUND you!

Yes, yes, yes. This is the stuff we're supposed to be against in someone else. Well, it ain't any prettier on our side, folks.

[PeaceProgProsp]

19. I think the whole thing was a set up, and Republicans are sick

for using this girl that way.

She doesn't know it was a set-up.

Her father is an asshole for using her like that.

Republicans are sick and pathetic.

That little girl will figure out the score soon enough and she'll be voting Dem when she turns 18.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. Is that Bremer?

Honest to god, what an ass. What guy in his right mind would use a little kid like that.

[robbedvoter]

18. What guy in his right mind would snatch anything from a little kid?

My kid went with me on rallies, protests. No one has touched her - if they did i'd be furious. THIS CROSSES THE LINE! That photo upsets me and those of you cheering sound like freeper thugs to me. What's next, acid in the face? Sheesh! I'll be damned if I'm turning into one of them!

[The_Casual_Observer]

34. The guy was a snarky disruptor at a small Edwards rally

Would you take your kid if you were going to be a disruptor at a bush rally?

[robbedvoter]

42. I took my kid once to heckle W in 2001 - there were W supporters

No one touched her.
I took her because there was no one to leave her with, and because I want her to remember all this. She was always asking: is it a rally or a protest?

I don't care that he wanted to show a Bush sign at an edwards rally. What'sa matter? We can't take a sign now? They behaved like brown shirts - SHAME ON THEM!

[Pab Sungenis]

81. This wouldn't have happened at a Bush rally....

...because the opposition are ARRESTED if they even show up.

That man and his daughter should feel lucky that a torn sign is all that happened. If they had been Kerry supporters at a * rally, they would be in JAIL right now.

[physaf]

38. right on

there is no good excuse for doing this. it only hurts people.

[bobbieinok]

89. check out other DU threads abt this...likely her brother took sign

the whole thing was a fake setup

[derrald]

10. Bullshit Story

No Kerry/Edwards supporter would grab a Bush/Cheney sign and tear it up - that's like John Kerry cutting in line at an ice cream shop and turning around saying "Haw haw I'm a senator you peon!"

It's stupid and doesnt make sense


There are two possibilities:

1. Something else happened to her sign - AP fellatioed Bush by throwing in the eeeevil liberal angle

2. A Bush/Cheney supporter tore it up and said "Look at me! I love John Kerry!"

In shot, bullshit story.

[XanaDUer]

14. Hmmmmm

now that you mention it, I *am* having a difficult time seeing a lib/Dem/Progressive do something like that.

[shadu]

17. that sounds about right to me

[Demonaut]

22. hate to burst your bubble but the guy to the left has a part of the sign

in his right hand................

[derrald]

39. who is to say he's not a repub?

[Demonaut]

86. wow good insight, I guess you were right............my bad

[jonnyblitz]

72. total horsehit story and DUers are falling for it..

too fucking MUCH. :puke:

[alphafemale]

12. That is awful. That 's not like us. Where was Scott Robinson that day?

I hate seeing things like that. Poor kid.

[last_texas_dem]

13. Funny and sad simultaneously

Funny because it's pathetic to see 'pug parents using their children as props for a protest and not getting the outcome they wanted out of it.

Sad because the little girl probably doesn't know anything about either candidate but probably will remember hostile treatment towards her making her sad, which is unfortunate, but maybe ultimately her manipulative parents' fault.

[Contrary1]

15. You're right...

It shouldn't have happened to a child. But consider this...

If she had been holding a Kerry/Edwards sign at a Bush Rally, chances are that she and daddy would have been hauled away by the police and charged with some ridiculous crime.

[zaj]

16. This is a stupid fucking post...

First, you don't treat kids that way...
Second, you don't even treat opposing adults that way.
Third, you don't rip up signs.

And yes, the father is a tard for taking his child to be a pawn in his protest march.

That's f'd up too.

[gmoney]

20. "Little girl, can Uncle Karl see your nice sign?"

Rip, rend, tear...

"Look, some evil Kerry supporter tore up this sweet little girl's sign..."

BOO

How low these people will sink continues to amaze me.

[XanaDUer]

23. I thought "FW"

meant "f*** W".

Cool sticker, though.

[gmoney]

87. It does, mean F*** W, but...

there is plausible deniability.

:)

[Maddy McCall]

21. Look: Even the kid on the right wants to deck him for using his child as

a prop.

What a pussy--has to bring his daughter as a human shield because he's too big of a wuss to put his body where his sign was.

Dumb fucker.

[alphafemale]

35. I think that's probably her big brother. Similar coloring and features.

And he does look ticked off, but probably not at dad.

[Demonaut]

24. she's a child......small and defenseless, her dad is an idiot

no glory in that act

[yardwork]

25. dupe

already being discussed on another thread.

[quaoar]

26. Someone from the Kerry campaign

Should call that kid's father and apologize for the boorish behavior of whatever moron tore up the sign.

I'm sorry, but if we can only win by making a toddler cry, we're pretty fucking pathetic.

[bobbieinok]

90. READ OTHER DU THREADS ABT THIS ...INCIDENT WAS A SETUP

[jmowreader]

92. It seems the moran is his son

What would a Kerry/Edwards supporter have done?

"Here, honey, here's a much nicer sign for you." And traded her a Kerry/Edwards sign for her Smirk & Scowl Special.

[Protected]

27. Ripping signs == bad

especially when it involves a little kid.

FYI, this photo is at the top of Yahoo!'s "most viewed" and "most emailed" lists.

[physaf]

41. uh -oh

that does not sound like a positive development.

[fujiyama]

59. Exactly

How the hell does this help Kerry and Edwards win in any way?

I wish people would think a little before doing stupid shit like this.

[GreenArrow]

28. I can't believe people are defending this

This country is in a world of hurt.

[Protected]

33. Nevermind

I misread the post.

[Fridays Child]

29. Shame on him for bringing her to a potentially confrontational situation.

She's clearly frightened. Couldn't he have comforted her in his arms, instead of keeping her in such a high profile and vulnerable position? And he was trying to make it look as if she had been holding the sign but it's obvious that it was in his hands.

What a jerk.

[IndianaGreen]

30. Nothing like a picture depicting Kerry supporters as brown shirted Nazis!

Based only on the picture and the short caption under it, what other opinion do you expect other readers to make about the incident?

Do you think that people will listen to you when you tell them that such an incident would never happen at a Bush/Cheney rally simply because the anti-Bush people would be kept penned behind barbed wire in their "free speech" zone? No, they won't! All they know is that Kerry supporters wearing union t-shirts ripped the sign that a little girl was carrying.

These things wouldn't happen in a well-disciplined campaign. Who the Hell was the advance men/women for that event?

[AuntPatsy]

31. This story reeks? OMG, the father holding his daughter stands still

for this photo op while his poor daughter is reduced to tears? No way would a real father not take his daugher off his shoulders and immediately hold her in his arms to console her...

A set up of the worst kind, I honestly believe that a fellow Bush supporter the only one capable of watching a small child cry..

Common people, most of you are parents, is this not utterly and without a moments thought suspect?

It is common knowledge they some have been known to eat their young, so it should come as no suprise that a father would allow such....

[Vanje]

32. Bad behavior. Horrible.

That really dissappoints me.

[LoZoccolo]

37. OK OK I realize this was rude.

I know, I know, the girl probably doesn't know anything about anything in politics. I guess I got caught up in the struggle so much that it seemed worth it to make a joke out of this just to take the wind out of whatever outrage we're gonna hear about tommorow over this from the right-wing.

But remember, they don't give a fuck about blowing some little kid in Iraq's arms off. Think about that.

[AuntPatsy]

40. I have actually heard God fearing republicans state that if

the children were not being led out into the line of fire they wouldn't get hurt. Many blame the Iraq parents? Incredibly sick..

[quaoar]

43. No, they don't care about the kids being killed in Iraq

But that doesn't make it right for us to act like them.

We're supposed to be better than them.

[LoZoccolo]

44. I know, it doesn't justify it.

I guess what I'd say is: don't believe it when they act all outraged over this, because they obviously don't care about someone else's kids getting burnt the fuck up and losing limbs.

[quaoar]

50. True

But it's not the fault of that little girl.

Her father might be an ass, but that's not her fault either.

[AuntPatsy]

51. No one is acting like that that I have read? They are horrified

that the father would bring her to this event, now before many who have brought kids to such events in the past jump on me, lets take into consideration the very real raging hate and anger and yes, even violence this election is becoming....

The little girl reminded me of my own when she was that young, I am sorry but I would have NEVER brought my daughter to that event, lets take also into consideration that many anti Kerry activists wanting to start trouble would be there, it's happened, and some has made news, notice I say some, and yet knowing this, and he is well informed I am sure, than he should be taken to task for child endangerment..

[PROGRESSIVE1]

46. Bingo! This girl will grow up to be a "FReeperette" who will support...

the murder of innocent children abroad in imperialistic wars. I have no sympathy for her and she should just "SHUT UP"!!!

[robbedvoter]

53. I sure hope you are sarcastic. Or maybe we should kill them all as kids

to ensure no freepers would develop....WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE? I think I am in the wrong crowd here. Not activists, but thugs.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

55. Be pragmatic here. Dem's don't bring their children to rallys to use....

as props and the Rethugs should do the same too.

It is shameless of this unfit father to use his kid as a prop.

[robbedvoter]

61. I brought my kid to an anti-W protest in 2002. She was 3.

She was not a prop. I wanted her to be part of it.
It's not the father's fault here.

[robbedvoter]

48. It wasn't rude, it was sick. Bad behavior from the oponents does NOT

excuse ours. We are supposed to be the ones who still have our humanity.
This was no better than the guy kicking the protester. SHAME!

[makhno]

49. Whatever, nothing to feel bad about

The father was the one holding the sign. The kid could've well been crying prior to the incident, perhaps deploring the fact that her dad is such a damn asshole that everyone in the crowd hates him and shouts him down.

For all we know, this was an anti-union, anti-Kerry setup by the sick Republican fuckers.

[Kimber Scott]

45. Unfortunately, this is what this country is coming to.

Sad. I'm sorry for the little girl. I'm sure she is now a lifelong Republican.

[makhno]

57. Hardly

If anything, she'll grow to despise her dad and the ideology that led to the ordeal.

[Doohickie]

47. And you're a low-life

for laughing at a little girl's tears.

What a slime ball.

[John_H]

94. LOL! And you're an idiot for not realizing the tears were caused by

her low-life, slimeball dad.

[are_we_united_yet]

52. In other news

Fuckwad freeper kicks young girl at a Republican function. Sources say the girl challenged him on his moral clarity, integrity and family values and Fuckwad became offended.

[Fridays Child]

54. He ran for the local school board (dunno if he won or not). His stats:

Phil Parlock

Age: 47

District: 3

Family: married; 10 children -- two at Marshall University, seven in Cabell County Schools and a 3-year-old at home.

Resides: 6900 Left Fork Merritts Creek, Huntington

Education: Attended high school in Pennsylvania; received a bachelor’s degree in science from Penn State in 1979.

Political experience: Fourth attempt at Board of Education.

Professional background: real estate salesman; worked in real estate appraisal, state and federal government.

Community service: Volunteer for Boy Scouts, NAACP, Junior Achievement, Huntington City Mission.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/April/05/LNtop1.htm

And his email address: [email protected]

[robbedvoter]

58. So, now we get REALLY like Free Republic, non?

What do you suggest here?

[Fridays Child]

70. The man is a public figure, running for local political office.

Phil Parlock made a very public, very political, gesture, objectifying his young daughter, in the process. If someone here wishes to express his or her opinion about it to Mr. Parlock, how does that compare to the actions of fr**pers--a group known to give out directions to the homes of private individuals, along with suggestions for how to harm them? I understand your concern but, upon closer scrutiny, I think you'll see that the comparison doesn't hold up.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

66. KICK

[fujiyama]

56. Whomever did that

is immature and stupid.

I think the dad was an ass hole to bring a kid to a place like that, but to take something from a little kid and tear it up (even something as offensive as a Bush/Cheney sticker) is pretty juvenile..

This is the kind of shit THEY do. I won't stand for vandalism and the violation of people's personal property, regardless of whom it's by. It's unacceptable.

[AuntPatsy]

63. I honestly think it was staged, there is no other story on whom

did it? You would think that whoever did it would have had his or her faces plasted along side the photos. Its wrong, and we all know it, so who did it? They should be identified, I refuse to blame democrats for this act until I know for certain, and if it was one, they do NOT react for all of us, if such were so, than we must blame every single Republican for all the continued attrocities being committed towards Kerry supporters and I know for a fact, they are not all like that..

Geez I am married to one and he would never do such an evil deed, I am for Kerry and neither would I..get a grip people and we will attack the only one responsible from now, this is getting so out of hand...

[fujiyama]

67. It's hard to believe

that someone could be such a jerk...and so stupid.

For God's sake, Kerry has a hard enough time as it is. This kind of bullshit propaganda is way too convenient for them. They'll use this to try to portray Kerry supporters as zealous fanatics. Hell, they'll use this to tar unions as well. It looks like the guy next to the man and the girl has some sort of union shirt on (and a piece of the sticker as well). These kind of things spread far and wide through email as well.

I wouldn't mind kicking that guy's ass (whomever did this). This doesn't help in any way at all!

[makhno]

62. Folks, don't fall for the freeper propaganda

The father was the one holding the sign, not the kid. For all we know, the kid was wailing all along, seeing how her dad was probably being shouted down by the people at the rally.

The fact that this picture - and the deceitful mention of "their sign" in the caption - is pushed by the right wing AP should tell you something. Please pay attention in this ocean of lies.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

64. Thank You! It's good to see that some people on DU....

see the light in all of this.

:)

[are_we_united_yet]

65. Agreed.

Before jumping to conclusions based on the picture, make sure this isn't another Karl Rove-a-matic. I.e., get the whole story.

[fujiyama]

69. It doesn't matter

who was holding the sign. As much as we hate it, Bush supporters have a right to be there. Kerry has OPEN rallies for a reason. We don't have loyalty oaths and we don't check to make sure all the people at the rallies are Kerry supporters.

Now, if he was being loadly disruptive, police could easily escort him away. But, what I don't like is the idea of people GRABBING things from others. It's a real pet peeve of mine. That too, when they have a little kid with them.

[Darranar]

68. Absolutely disgusting...

there is no excuse for doing this to a child.

[Roland99]

71. I find that behavior of a Kerry/Edwards supporter disgusting...but....

do you think if we hadn't been reading about stories of Kerry/Edwards supporters being kicked after pulled to the ground, or arrested for ASKING A FVCKING QUESTION, or arrested for expressing First Amendments rights at a Bush rally, or for wearing an anti-Bush t-shirt at a Bush rally, or having yard signs stolen or defaced that this incident would NOT have happened?

[Bongo Prophet]

73. Not funny. I smell a set up photo op.

Notice how this photo and the other thread's viewpoint have at least several seconds difference. "Green hat union guy" looks on, laughing in both. Second photo has the crowd and signs, crowding the rail. Those two have barely moved, even though everyone else has. Almost as if they are.....

Posing.

Same expression on Dad's face- downward looking and dour, but no emotion.
"Oh, how sad a fate this is, when A little girl can't express democracy.." but no other reaction of caring/comfort for his daughter, or anger at anyone who would do such a bizarre and cruel thing.
If I saw anyone tearing up a child's sign, I would give him a scolding, no matter what the sign said. No one, even dad, looks aghast at the "perpetrator"
This just feels wrong somehow.
Witness stories would be helpful in this "news" story. And it would surprise me not one bit if greenhat union guy was Dad's oldest son, or some other accomplice in union drag.

But that's just me. Living in a time of 24 hour psyops makes one skeptical, I suppose.
Enough time on this, though. It is going to be a tough election, with much psy warfare on their side.
Document. Get pictures. Watch your backs.

[myrna minx]

74. I'll link the second thread debunking this story...

This guy is guilty of being a "professional victim" for the past 3 elections...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x828458#828469

[Bongo Prophet]

85. Yep. Good work Du researchers! Busted!

Gotta love internet tools in smart hands.
Olbermann, Moony Times, more have emails...

[Myrina]

75. See debunking thread here ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=829092&mesg_id=829092

It appears to have been a setup.

[LoZoccolo]

76. See now, aren't you glad I laughed at this?

I know I apologized and all, but hey, things look quite different now!

[ArkDem]

77. The people who ripped up the sign were very brave. I have

inside information that the little girl is tougher than the rabbit in Monty Python's Holy Grail.

[veteran_for_peace]

78. Here is his email

[email protected]

[Name removed]

79. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ArkDem]

82. Democracy

[yardwork]

83. It's fake. Read the entire thread and the other threads.

The whole thing was a set-up. The father faked the attack. His son apparently ripped the sign. He's done it numerous times before.

[yardwork]

84. Before anyone reads further - know that this is a fake!

The father staged the whole thing. See other DU threads, including this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x829092

[gauguin57]

95. This is some of the info I sent Olbermann about Parlock

Bush supporter Phil Parlock makes a career of being "victimized" at Democratic events. Latest: alleged sign-ripping that made his little girl "cry." Free Republic members go crazy. BUT -- it's looking more and more like a setup!

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/September/17/LNtop1.htm

Washington Post mentions that Parlock seems to turn up as a Democratic "victim" all the time!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28813-2004Sep17.html

Democratic Undergrounders collect evidence against Parlock.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x829409
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=829092&mesg_id=829092

Name "Parlock" included in news report of alleged shooting at Republican gathering in HUNTINGTON, W.VA ... area where Parlock is from. What does Parlock know about this shooting?

http://www.wchstv.com/newsroom/showscripts/6fri.shtml