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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:34 PM
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So What Is the 'Opt-Out' Compromise?

So What Is the 'Opt-Out' Compromise?

Josh Marshall

Sen. Reid's announcement today is just one more increment in the progress of health care reform. But it is worth stepping back to note the importance that an outside-the-box idea can have in significantly changing the terms of a major policy debate. It's generally agreed that the public option, which seemed close to dead 2 to 4 weeks ago, enjoyed a substantial comeback over the course of October. Many factors played a role. But a very significant one was the political jujitsu of the so-called "opt-out" Public Option compromise, which flipped the onus of the public option debate back onto the Republicans.

So I wanted to go back and take stock of just what this compromise is.

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First is the issue of scale. The whole logic of the public option is that you have a big enough pool of people that you have the efficiencies and bargaining power that can hold down prices. This is why reformers have never had much patience with state-based programs or coops. If it's forty or fifty mini-public options, it pretty much defeats the whole purpose because you don't have any of the market power that allows you to negotiate favorable pricing. It's not let a hundred flowers bloom, or fifty as the case may be. You really need one big flower.

It's certainly a problem that a substantial number of Americans -- probably in red states -- would lack the public option. But by making it an opt-out rather than an opt-in, you start with a truly national program. That's the key. The default is everyone is in. Even if you had 1/3 or even, conceivably half the states (or half the total national population in however many states) you'd still have enough heft to make it have the desired effect. And presumably you'd have by far most of the population in the program.

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Equally important is the politics. In two key ways the 'opt-out' flipped the political dynamics entirely. A big argument from Republicans was that the public option would force people into 'government health care' or in various other ways destroy the universe. The opt-out just says: 'fine, then don't allow it in your state. Next ...' That takes a lot of the wind out of the sails of that argument. And, more pointedly, conservative and moderate Dems who were afraid of voting for the full public option seem to think that this gives them sufficient cover to vote for it -- at least for the procedural 60 vote threshold, if not for the bill itself, which will take 50 votes. But that's all that's really necessary: getting past cloture.

And there's one other part to this -- momentum in the favor of full opt-in. Just as people rail against 'government health care' and love their Medicare, there's good reason to believe that the Public Option will have been a lot scarier as a GOP straw man and a Glenn Beck temper tantrum than it will as a real world option for people who can't get private coverage. And if the public option is available in North Carolina, just to pick a hypothetical, and not South Carolina, after a while, people in the South Carolina might start to wonder what the logic was of denying them a lower cost health insurance option. And if that's true, presumably, pressure will build in the opt-out states to opt-in. So even if a substantial number of people aren't covered at the start, there's good reason to believe that will change over time.

Of course, if the public option is really a disaster, the momentum could go the other way. But that's just another way of saying that it sets up a good experiment. We'll see which states fare better and people can make their choices.

(emphasis added)



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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:37 PM
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1. Republicans haven't said anything yet; waiting for a release from Limbaugh?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:39 PM
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3. Oh yes they have
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:43 PM
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4. Thanks.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:48 PM
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5. And they're spitting the pea soup all over tv now, too
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 06:03 PM
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8. They're too busy dithering to speak. :-) NT
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:39 PM
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2. Somebody doesn't like
Josh Marshall's take..already an unrec.

Personally, I like it..thanks Pro Sense and Josh Marshall.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:51 PM
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6. Mirrors My Own Take-BTW Thanks For All The Great Stuff
You've been posting, PS. :thumbsup:
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 06:19 PM
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9. 2nd That.
:thumbsup:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:56 PM
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7. Rather than Josh Marshall's speculations, what are the FACTS of the opt-out proposal
Knowing that this came from Mr. Corporatist DLC shill Tom Carper (who not very long ago endorsed Hillary's plan to privatize Social Security) I'm not believing he has any intention of a plan that would "have by far most of the population in the program." (in Marshall's words.)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 06:30 PM
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10. Ad hominem attacks aren't facts either
You are basically saying that because this idea came from Tom Carper that it inherently will not include most of the population. That is not a fact, that is your own speculation. If you have some facts please present them.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 07:02 PM
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11. Tom Carper, like all DLC'ers, is a fucking corporatist swine
So it's not at all likely that he would be promoting a plan that allows the majority of the population to escape the clutches of the criminal insurance industry, and sign up for the Public Option.

As I said, he and his friends were determined to privatize Social Security less than three years ago. Ironically, we have Chimpy to thank for crashing the economy, which led Hillary to cut her own "Turn Social Security Over To Wall Street American Dream Initiative" out of her platform.

And yes, Hillary lost the primary, but given most of the cabinet appointments, the DLC seems to have forgotten that fact.

I don't trust them to work in the best interests of the American people, because they have a track record of doing exactly the opposite.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 07:05 PM
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12. The option not to have an option, don't you get it,no neither do i. All states will adopt the option
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