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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:06 PM
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Sotomayor will be the first of @ least 4 to 6 judges that Obama will ...
.... get to pick. And you know what the right can do? Nothing .... not a damn thing

Stevens is 89

Tony the fixer Scalia is 73 and fat

Kennedy is 73

Thomas is 61 and acts like he is 99

Ginsburg is 76 w/ health problems

Bryer is 70

Alito is 59

Roberts is 54




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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:08 PM
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1. I don't know about 4-6, but I'm betting at least one of two.
Sotomayor was a huge victory for him.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:10 PM
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3. I hope Ginsberg and Stevens retire soon.
We need to ensure they replaced with progressives.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:12 PM
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5. 2 is a done deal Stevens & Ginsburg
If Obama gets a second term then 6 will be very likely.

I don't know if Thomas has long to go or not ..... he acts like a very old man.
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:10 PM
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2. I want to see the battle if one of the conservative bloc resigns.
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 05:11 PM by Nyquil Man
The Republicans fought pretty hard over replacing a center-left justice with another center-left justice. I can't imagine what they'd do if the next nominee is replacing somebody like Scalia.

Even if Kennedy resigned, an Obama nominee would point to a pretty important change in SCOTUS.

But, as you say, they'll be pretty ineffective regardless.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:11 PM
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4. I wonder if Stevens hasn't been waiting for a Democratic Administration
before stepping down? It would be nice to get someone in there even a bit younger than Sotomayor.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:17 PM
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7. Perhaps a few could be persuaded to retire while their replacements
could be chosen by an intelligent president:)
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:19 PM
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8. Exactly. Ginsberg too and at least one of the repugs on the bench.
Now that would make things really interesting.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:16 PM
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6. "health problems" is putting it mildly
she has cancer.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:32 PM
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9. Sorry to burst your bubble
but Stevens and Ginsberg are the only ones for sure, IF there is a second Obama term. The others will stay on life support until a Repuke president is in the White House, no matter what.

Scalia's the oldest of the troglodytes, and he's been inspired by Stevens to stay on the Court as long as he can draw breath through a respirator.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:44 PM
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11. Actually, Roberts has some health issues.
He's a candidate for a sudden episode.
Just saying.....
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:54 PM
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12. OK, it could happen
but it's not terribly likely.

We have to have a second Obama term to really have a chance of doing anything other than replacing old progressives with young progressives. And there's a case hurtling towards the Supreme Court about a Constitutional right to equal marriage that is going to fall on five deaf sets of ears real soon...
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:10 PM
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14. the odds are that one of the three Bryer, Kennedy, and Scalia
will be gone in Obama's first term ...... Stevens & Ginsburg are for sures.

That would give Obama 4 counting Sotomayor.

Now C. Thomas sleeping all the time and never asking a question will either lengthen his stay
on the court or he might just up and quit .... he does not look happy at all.


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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:15 PM
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15. Breyer already votes with us, for the most part
You're dreaming if you think Kennedy and Scalia would even look at a DNR order to sign for their doctors.

Wingnuts have been waiting for Stevens to die for years, he's still hanging in there. I figure that if any of the conservative Justices were feeling like they might expire during the next eight years, they would have given Bushco a chance to replace them.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:25 PM
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17. you are right on Breyer .... he has been a good judge
but the odds are against Scalia, Kennedy, and Breyer all making it through Obama's first term are 50 - 50 @ best.



I wish Tony many more cheesebugers.

I also want to see if we can start getting rid of all those nasty judges Reagan, HW, and W put on the Fed. Bench too.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:39 PM
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10. What scares me to death is the possibility that President Obama might reach across the aisle
for his next nominee. In the name of bi-partisanship and all.

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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:01 AM
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26. Well, Sotomayor WAS the "bipartisan" nominee
She was appointed by both Bush and Clinton. I think the next one will be a pureblood liberal (Sotomayor is a liberal but not a "Scalia-type" liberal), now that he's gotten one easy confirmation done.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:02 AM
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28. what makes you think he didn't do that this time?
i didn't know she was a *liberal*
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 09:07 AM
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30. Well, she wasn't a conservative in the mold of Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito, etc,
by a long shot.

With all the howling about Justice Sotomayor being an activist, liberal justice, there's going to be unbelievable pressure to go right on the next one.

Of course, it makes no sense, but that's the way these Republican/fascist asshats work. And, unfortunately, the Democratic/corporatist asshats usually fold and say "Yessir, whatever we can do to make this a bi-partisan effort. Yessir."


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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:01 PM
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13. Well depending on how congressional and senate elections go
they can make it very difficult to get left leaning nominees through.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:18 PM
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16. As of now it is looking really good for us
http://www.gallup.com/poll/122003/Political-Party-Affiliation-States-Blue-Red-Far.aspx

only 4 states* are still solid red and Alabama is now just leaning red. Obama gets health care
through and the economy picks up (still where are the jobs?) 2010 will be like 06 and 08.

The repugs fighting Sotomayor has helped them w/ the Hispanic vote either.




* Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, and Alaska.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:27 PM
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18. Obama voted against cloture on Alito.
Republicans believe this will allow them to filibuster any Obama SCOTUS appointee that would be a game changer.

It is possible that there will be no further retirements in Obama's first. It has been said that Stevens and Ginsberg truly enjoy their roles on the court, I wouldn't be surprised to see Stevens die on the bench.

But as others have said in this thread, I have to believe that Scalia and Thomas will cling to dear life as long as Obama is in office.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:36 PM
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19. I don't want to sound like Pat Robertson, but.....
I'm really hoping we get rid of Scalia and Thomas in the near future. Stevens & Ginsburg will probably go one way or the other, but that isn't going to do a thing to improve the balance of the court. It's Fat Tony and Clarence the Clown who are the keys to real change on the court.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:49 PM
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20. Lets hope
These appointments should be only 25 years, not life.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:26 PM
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21. He won't get 6 judges, 4 is likely the limit
Seriously, he's not getting 6 judges.

Ginsburg & Stevens are likely to step down in the next 7 years certainly, they probably will. Stevens probably just wants to serve one or two more years, so he makes history as the oldest supreme court judge ever. Ginsburg will probably decide to retire in a year or two as well. The rest however, seem unlikely to retire at the moment.

Alito & Roberts are certainly not retiring, and probably not Thomas either, and they aren't likely to die of old age in the next 8 years either.

Bryer will probably stick around for a while still, he may possibly consider retiring in tn say 2014/2015, the middle of Obama's second term (assuming he wins reelction), but for the moment probably won't.

Scalia's the only ultra conservative who Obama has any hope of maybe replacing, if he gets health issues.

I could see Kennedy maybe retiring if he thought the conditions were right for a more moderate judge to take his place, like if the GOP controlled the senate late into Obama's presidency (since they aren't taking it back anytime soon), or democrats had a much smaller numbers advantage, making it much harder for a strong liberal judge to replace him.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:59 PM
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24. He has a decent shot of becoming the longest serving justice
and I think he might well want that feather. He is in amazing health and seems to enjoy being on the court.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:48 PM
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22. My guess is three
Stevens and Ginsburg plus one of either Kennedy or Scalia. We're stuck with Thomas for awhile I suspect.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:00 PM
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23. If it looks like there is any chance that Obama might not be reelected, then
all of the right wing judges will try to stay put for now. Stevens and Ginsburg might retire right away, but their replacements won't tilt the ideological balance on the court.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:03 PM
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25. Actually
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 11:03 PM by politicasista
Clarence Thomas is the one that's fat. As in fat head.

Hope President Obama can pick somebody that's really black (aka AA). It's nice to know that he has some good picking to do.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:58 AM
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27. Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.
Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas are hard-core right-wingers who would not consider retiring under a Democrat under any circumstances. Kennedy is usually a recognizably human mainstream conservative, but still a dogged Republican partisan judging by his foul decision in Bush v. Gore, so I'd be very surprised if he decided to let a Democrat choose his replacement, either.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:15 AM
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29. Be nice to have fewer far-Rightwing votes on the High Court.
Can't say what will happen without a crystal ball, and my crystal ball's in the shop, having been cracked in a dust-up in a recent health care town hall mtg.

But across levels, there'll be several Obama judiciary appointments and the more he makes the better off we are.

Let's not even think about Dubya's judiciary appointments. It would only ruin all our weekends.
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