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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 05:44 AM
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MSNBC President: Conspiracy Theory About Obama's Citizenship Is "Racist"
MSNBC president Phil Griffin called the claim that President Obama is a foreigner, which has received significant media coverage over the last few days, "racist." From the NY Times



It's racist,said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. It's racist. Just call it for what it is.

Mr. Griffin said the cable news coverage was set off by two back-to-back events: the introduction of a bill that would require presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate (it has nine co-sponsors in the House and one in the Senate) and the video of a town hall held by a Republican Congressman that turned into a hearing on Mr. Obamas citizenship.




This morning, the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a major civil rights group, wrote a letter calling on CNN President Jon Klein to remove CNN host Lou Dobbs from the air. The request stems from a segment on Dobbs' radio show this past Tuesday where Dobbs did his part to keep alive the conspiracy theory that President Obama is not an American citizen (AKA the "birther" theory). On air, he speculated: "I'm starting to think we have a document issue. You suppose he's un... no, I won't even use the word undocumented, it wouldn't be right."


The SPLC isn't the first group to have demanded the removal of Dobbs. Yesterday, the progressive watchdog group Media Matters blasted out a press release to reporters charging that "CNN has a very serious Lou Dobbs problem."

And it seemed as though the message was starting to sink in. TVNewser reported today that Jon Klein sent a memo to a group of Dobbs' staffers explaining in no uncertain terms that the whole "birthers" story is "dead."

However, in an interview with Greg Sargent this afternoon, Klein backtracked and brushed off the criticism. "Look, Lou's his own show, and CNN in general has repeatedly and thoroughly reported on the facts behind this situation."

He also took a dig at his critics, suggesting that they were politically motivated.


Asked if CNN is concerned that Dobbs' repeated granting of airtime to theories the network has conclusively debunked amounts to overkill and could harm CNN's credibility, Klein brushed off the possibility. "We respect our viewers enough to present them the facts and let them make up their own minds," he said, adding that what Dobbs does is "his editorial decision to make."


full interview here
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/cnn-p... /


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/24/major-civil-ri...

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 07:09 AM
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1. As far as I know, there is no truth to the rumor
Edited on Sun Jul-26-09 07:10 AM by PCIntern
that Lou Dobbs is the illegitimate spawn of Father Coughlin.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:05 AM
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3. or that he has sex with farm animals.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:08 AM
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4. I can neither confirm nor deny his cocaine habit
To speculate on whether Lou Dobbs is a drug user would be unprofessional of me. But suffice to say that if Lou Dobbs were doing cocaine on a regular basis in his office at CNN, it would be troubling. Troubing indeed.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:58 AM
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19. I've read that's there more than ample "Documented" evidence
that he's a racist bigoted pig. Turning the tables on that fuck would be priceless.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:36 PM
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30. I heard he once spit tobacco juice in Ann Coulter's face
which would be wrong, even if anyone did it -- and I certainly wouldn't suggest anyone do that.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:04 AM
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2. Maybe it's time to revisit the Lou Dobbs' "Obama Waffles" story,
and send it and the photos of Lou with his box of waffles to MSNBC, SPLC, mediamatters, etc. No doubt that, and a boycott of his sponsors would go a long way to help CNN do the right thing. :evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:59 AM
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20. Excellent choice from
the memory files on dobbs.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:40 AM
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5. At least MSNBC gets it. CNN can go screw themselves.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:58 AM
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6. Tweety is doing is part to try to debunk the story.
He's been having a segment on it daily pointing out how ridiculous it is. Maybe now Lou will just shut up and we can all go on to more important things.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 09:05 AM
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7. One Weird Thing About Crazy People...
Edited on Sun Jul-26-09 09:06 AM by jberryhill
It turns out that the more debunking information is provided to them, then the more convinced they are that their pet theory is being "covered up" by a broader conspiracy.

Any reinforcement of their theory - even negative reinforcement - is a sign to them that they are being taken seriously.


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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 09:12 AM
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8. And I'm sure it feeds into their theory of 'liberal media' every
time Tweety debunks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:03 PM
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22. Yeah, one won't change the "minds" of the
insane but they can get that crap off the air that's a freakin' feeding Frenzy.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:34 AM
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16. He's been very effective,
always having a copy of the birth certificate on hand which he repeatedly shows to his guests and the camera.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:07 PM
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24. Good..it's so ridiculous but
here we are.

I know you've followed this thing from the beginning and we all know how it grew.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:12 PM
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25. Well I knew from the beginning that it was
"racist" plain and simple. These fringe groups could not come out and voice in public what you know they say in private, so they come up with a lame birth certificate story. More newcasters need to be as blunt and direct as Matthews has been - "Here's the birth certificate, now what do you want?"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:14 PM
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26. ..
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
HighFive :hi:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:20 PM
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28. Back at ya'
It sure took the media a long time to state the obvious!

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:00 PM
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21. cnn will have to make that racist bigoted pig
stfu.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 09:19 AM
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9. "The Fantasies of Bigots"
Edited on Sun Jul-26-09 09:57 AM by moondust
Definitely documentary material.
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Leo The Cleo Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 10:09 AM
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10. Duh!
Of course it's racist. However, some folks don't mind a bit of racism in their morning coffee.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 10:19 AM
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11. Dobs gets more and more and more racist
every week.

He is a bitter, angry old man
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 10:36 AM
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12. Clinton Says Obama Muslim Rumor Not True "As Far As I Know"
Edited on Sun Jul-26-09 10:41 AM by denem
"I take him on the basis of what he says" March 1, 2008

Versus say, No. There's no truth to that. Nothing. etc. The low point of Hillary's campaign.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/clinton...

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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:01 AM
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13. Yes. I won't forget that, ever, because it shocked me she would stoop to that. nt
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:07 AM
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14. Hillary was Obama's first choice as SoS
In that respect he is like Hillary herself, focussed on outcomes.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:34 AM
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15. Or keep your friends close and your enemies closer? nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:05 PM
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23. So what? They have the bigger picture
in mind and aren't stunted by the negative shit that happens.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:41 PM
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32. Get the f OVER the primaries....
You know as well as anyone else here that she said "as far as I know" as a little tag on AFTER she had said "NO" at LEAST 3 or 4 times....Grow the fuck up and get the real facts of a rumor before you continue to spread it. Have you even watched the video?

Maybe you need to see someone about your CDS. I hear it actually is curable.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 10:58 AM
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38. i saw the video and i thought she was insinuating
Not that it matters any more but if your going to get fired up, you might want to consider that people may have seen her statement in different ways. I don't really think she is a racist at all, i just figured she was race signaling to those who are. Its a political tactic that senators do with birthers as well. Its like saying "im with you" without exposing yourself.

She did it a couple of times actually, in my view.

Either just tonal misunderstandings or bad political moves.


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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:41 AM
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17. Did lou dobbs get spurned by a person of color? That would explain his obsession.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:15 PM
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27. I think he's playing the ratings game
Bringing up controversial subjects makes him competitive with FOX. I remember when he was relatively sane and reasonable, but as time went by his on camera outrage got more and more fabricated. I don't think he believes for one minutes that there is a grain of truth in the birth certificate story.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:31 PM
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29. He's married to a person of 'color'. Not black, but a "wise Latina woman".
Maybe she spurned him for sex the night before and he was upset.

;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 11:57 AM
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18. Now we're getting somewhere!
Yes, it most absolutely IS hurting cnn's credibility. glen beck use to work at cnn..why did he leave?

Thank you, Phil Griffin, msnbc President..and do go for the jugular on cnn..it might make them fucking more resonpsible.

Something happened between Klein saying the birfer story was "dead" and when he was sniveling out of it.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:37 PM
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31. Hey, he's right.
Because let's face it.

The birthers don't give two shits about a birth certificate. They really don't. They know as well as anyone that Obama's a natural born citizen.

But Obama did two things wrong in their eyes--one, he was born African-American, and two, he had the audacity to run for (and win) the Presidency. They long for a return to the "good ol' days" where you could string black people up in a tree and get acquitted of any criminal charges by the smirking, tobacco-chewing, like-minded sheriff.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:59 PM
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33. Bingo!!
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:54 PM
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35. Obama is an American born inside US or not.
His mother is American.

Pretty simple.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:54 PM
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34. I think it is also the assumption on the far right that liberals are not 'real americans'
So you get a liberal president who is black and has a weird name, and stupid theories that he isn't 'a real american' are going to come from somewhere. If it wasn't the birth certificate issue, it'd have been something else.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:57 PM
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36. nice to see someone is finally calling it like it is...n/t
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 12:20 AM
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37. I think we should start emailing Dobbs that we are investigating him
for all his illegitimate children, his drug habits, etc.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 11:51 AM
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39. Kick and too late to rec :(
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