It is an absurd supposition that anyone who boos President Obama is a Racist

[Perky]

No doubt some were. but the assumption that they must be racists is absurd.

They might just be republicans or Conservatives... or given the tone these day.... they might even be DUers.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. The vast majority of Obama haters are racist.

If they had valid complaints, you'd see equal proportions of dissatisfaction across all racial groups.

The vast majority of Obama haters are white. You see nearly complete approval for Obama in the black community, hispanic community, etc.

It's kind of like GOP conventions, which have roughly the same demographics as white supremacist camps. It's not random coincidence that they're all white.

[Perky]

2. So it couldn't possibly be just flaming capitalists or 3rd Gen Republicans?

:wow:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Are you saying ethnic minorities can't be flaming capitalists?

As for Republicans, their entire platform is racist.

[Perky]

4. No...why are you putting words in my mouth

[Perky]

6. Are you saying that Ethnic minorities must support the president?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. I'm saying ethnic minorities do support the president.

[Perky]

11. All off them?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. No, just almost all of them.

[rcrush]

23. And if they dont then they are racist.

[Seen the light]

5. To be fair, you could have said the same of Clinton/Gore/Kerry haters

The vast majority of folks that hated them were white as well. I'm sure the same folks would have been booing President Clinton or a President Gore or Kerry if they were throwing out the first pitch too. I have no doubt there are plenty of racist Republicans that despise Obama even more than other Democrats because of the color of the skin. But just booing him at a baseball game doesn't point to that at all.

[Perky]

8. Precisely. They could have been Gay Baseball Fans

impatient at promised progress.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. The vast majority of Clinton haters were indeed racist.

Yes.

[Perky]

13. did they dislike him because they were racists?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. No, they disliked him because they were stupid.

They just happened to be racist.

[PVnRT]

14. Are you trolling or just incredibly stupid?

I honestly can't tell the difference anymore.

[MadBadger]

15. Thats because the vast majority of Republicans are white

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. The vast majority of Republicans are white because of racism.

[MadBadger]

36. I think the vast majority of republicans are white because of their Mommy and Daddy's skin color

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. That would explain why they're white.

but it doesn't explain why they choose to support racism.

[ItNerd4life]

22. Your insight is so thoughtless and baseless.

I know many people who don't like him because of his 'fiscal recklessness' as they call it. It's the
same reason they didn't like Bush. So, they didn't like Bush so they were intelligent, they don't like Obama so their racist?

What an absurd notion.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

30. "they don't like Obama so their racist?"

Pretty much.

Tea baggers are constantly making up reasons why they don't like Obama, but it all boils down to racism.

[Perky]

35. No it doesnot all boild down to racism!!!!!!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. Yeah, pretty much does.

Sorry.

[Perky]

50. SO ANYONE WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA MUST BE A RACIST?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

53. Pretty much.

Two candidates for a job.

One dangerously unqualified, the other black.

[Perky]

54. John McCain was wrong on the issues... but I would hardly call him unqualified

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

59. The guy thought the fundamentals of the economy were strong.

Completely unqualified for any position requiring rational thought.

[Blasphemer]

60. I'm pretty sure the results would have been about the same if HRC was the nominee

Of course there are those for whom race was a factor - i.e. those who would have voted the Democratic ticket if the Presidential nominee were white and those who would never vote for a black candidate regardless of which party they were affiliated with. There are also those for whom the results of the Democratic primary were a factor - i.e. those (I know of a few in my black family) who supported Hillary Clinton and therefore opted not to vote. There were probably those who would not have voted for Hillary due to her gender but did vote for Obama. There are many factors at play. Of course, racism has been a huge part of the GOP strategy, particularly in the south, but divisions in our country even setting aside the issue of race are such that even an unqualified Republican pitted against a more qualified Democrat (regardless of race) will get a significant percentage of the votes whether or not he or she wins (see Bush vs. Gore).

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[chrisa]

75. lol

Come on now. I like Obama, but that's ridiculous.

[JamesA1102]

41. Rachel Maddow and Paul Krugman are racists? nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

80. I never said they're all racist.

But yeah, probably.

[PurityOfEssence]

57. 85.3 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot

Somehow the fact that Obama's approval being higher in the black community than in the public at large has no racial component.

Bigotry exists in all demographic groups.

Contention exists on the left as well as the right; that's the danger of being an ultra-moderate.

[ruggerson]

63. recommended

n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

81. You're ignoring the latino and asian communities.

Also far higher than in the white community.

[Hawaii Hiker]

71. The vast majority of Obama haters are from the south

There was a recent poll (can't remember which outlet did it) that showed breakdown by region, & except for the south, President Obama was enjoying a rather high approval rating....In the northeast region, approval was an astounding 84%..

His approval in the good ole boy region (south) was around 35%...

FUCK. THE. SOUTH.

[Richardo]

72. This may be the single stupidest post I've ever read on DU

...and I joined in 2002.

[Cha]

7. Or they might even not like

the Whitesox.

No, I don't think everyone is racist who would boo.

[LWolf]

12. Or they might be leftists, liberals, or progressives, DUers or not. nt

[CakeGrrl]

16. True enough. Plenty of DUers would have been booing as loudly as anyone. n/t

[Political Heretic]

19. Oh please

:eyes:

[CakeGrrl]

26. You're naive if you don't think some of them would have.

Have you not been reading some of the complaining about the Greatest Page? The most pissed-off faction is afraid that Obama cheerleading will dominate, and some of the pissier comments about his mere appearance at a baseball game are pretty telling as well.

[Political Heretic]

28. I think the crying about the meanie, evul DUers who dare to criticize the president is ridiculous

Some of you people (omg he said "you people!" yes, you people who cry and whine that anyone dare to ask critical questions about the administration) act like Obama is your personal friend or something. He's not your lover, he's the president. My job, pal, is to be critical. That's me being a responsible AMERICAN.

The notion that our response to a Democratic president is supposed to be that we all sit around DU and jack each other off in euphoria while smearing the cum of our ecstatic celebratory joygasms all over each other for four years is the dumbest fucking notion I've ever heard.

If we are going to err, I would much rather err on the side of being overly critical than being a fucking circle jerk cheerleader squad with thumbs up our asses while politics as usual goes on right under our noses.

:rant:

[Perky]

32. Duzy!!!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[PVnRT]

34. That was beautiful (n/t)

[OwnedByFerrets]

38. Nice rant.

[CakeGrrl]

56. You earned your cyber high-fives with the badass talk - you go!

But I still believe plenty of people here would, probably under safe cover of anonymity, boo him. There's attitude all over the place suggesting it.

You seem pretty invested in this board to take the time to rant. I just don't think the political universe hinges on how much or how little Obama is bashed or defended on this site.

You seem to have hit a breaking point with the Unrec function, based on another OP you created. I'm not sure why you and others feel so threatened and defensive about your right to say whatever you want about the President, because you've made your points ad nauseum.

But as I said, you got the big Attaboys for that mouth-frothing, jerkoff-laden response. Maybe that's the real payoff for some of YOU people.

:party:

[ruggerson]

64. I agree with you CG

and it works both ways, unfortunately. Some folks are too quick to try to score message board points by being inflammatory about their harsh criticisms of Obama, while another faction has so much invested in him that they will jump to call reasoned criticism of any and all of his actions "racist." And neither side ever seems to listen or glean much from the other.

[CakeGrrl]

65. Thanks for the backup, ruggerson

Ironically, it looks like my follow-up response ended up in the middle of a circle-jerk of a different variety.

I find it interesting that those who level the charges end up propagating the behaviors they ascribe to others.

Anyhoo, I'm not really getting why my post was the catalyst for The Rude Pundit Wannabe since I don't think it even approached anything like Obama apologism, but there it is.

[Bluenorthwest]

58. Perfection!

Yes!

[Autumn]

61. I'm impressed.

:wow:

[bullwinkle428]

69. PH, I think I love you, but I promise not to make a mess!

:evilgrin:

[Political Heretic]

17. Yeah Boo Bush you're a hero, Boo Obama you're a Jerk... but not a racist.

Not on the basis of booing alone.

[zulchzulu]

18. They just aren't classy. Booing a President at a baseball game is just tacky and rude.

The best response when you're in that situation (if you disagree with the politician) is either to turn your back, say nothing or just act like you don't care. Booing is just tacky.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

67. Bush hid behind two wounded vets when he threw the first pitch

Had he walked out to the mound alone the "boos" would have been deafening. By having not one but two vets with him the fans couldn't express anything by a standing ovation -- which the WH, of course, spun as overwhelming approval of Bush. At least Obama is willing to stand on his own two feet.

BTW, did anyone see the first time Bush threw out the opening pitch? It made it about 3/4 the way to the catcher. Even Obama said he practiced before the game. There are two opportunities to embarrass yourself at a baseball game -- by not getting the opening pitch to the catcher or by singing the National Anthem off-key. Thankfully, I've never had the chance to do either.

[cboy4]

24. I agree. And next time, Obama should stick to giving speeches in front

of an important group about an important topic.

There's a reason politicians are always heavily booed at stadiums.

[Catherine Vincent]

25. I agree.

That was a silly insinuation. And it weakens the real argument for racism.

[scheming daemons]

27. I agree.... some might boo because they're idiots, or because they hate the White Sox....

[Perky]

31. Wouldn't that be redundant?

[BlooInBloo]

33. (shrug) The location of the game, the demographic make-up of the attending crowd...

specifics like that make such thoughts much more reasonable than the strawman generality.

[OwnedByFerrets]

37. Could it possibly be that they were booing the President

because he was wearing a White Sox jersey?

[GivePeaceAchance]

39. It's just after seeing the documentary 'The right feeling wronged' it does leave that strong ...

impression let alone the abundant amounts of racists that go on voice chat and at free republic, sure their maybe some that oppose him on policy but the impression is very few it's a policy issue.

[Skittles]

40. I believe those booers were Cubs fans

really, I do - he pops out there wearing a SOX jacket - well, ya know it could happen

[mopinko]

42. there is a very old rivalry between the cubs and the cards.

since they are both national league teams. i think that inter-league play has extended that to the white sox.

however, i agree that most republicans are racists. the southern strategy has succeeded in not only recruiting republicans, but also building the party up in a way that most of them are acting on subconscious feelings. they have sugar coated hate in such a way as to make it seem rational and defensible. probably most of them are unable to examine their assumptions and opinions and realize what they are based on. because they are that stupid.

[Skittles]

49. my feeling is

if they're not racist they're certainly comfortable being part of party that is and that alone makes them suck

[mopinko]

52. true dat

or they are too stupid to notice that everyone is else is a racist, in which case they also suck.

[Life Long Dem]

43. If it is racism, then why don't we see the same thing at baseball games?

Because it's political BS.

[Vidar]

46. Agreed.

[NYDem Observer]

47. Hello, The man was wearing a White Sox Jersey

I'm sure that had nothing to do with the boos though. :sarcasm:

[Moochy]

48. Simultaneously calling out the broadbrushing with a broadbrush

Quite a feat!

[Hard_Work]

51. Is everybody here completely loony?

The man threw out the first pitch at the all star game in St. Louis wearing a Chicago Whitesox jersey. St. Louis is a city that absolutely loves their Cardinals. The whole city felt insulted, because it's customary to wear the jersey of the home city...had NOTHING to do with his politics.

I swear, sometimes this place...

[seaglass]

55. Not everybody, just a few.

:-)

[hileeopnyn8d]

68. It's not customary for an all star game

but yes, several here are completely loony.

[Hard_Work]

78. I stand corrected nt

........

[LanternWaste]

62. it does come across as a rather dogmatic statement...

It does come across as a rather dogmatic statement... and the defenders of that fallacy seem to be just as dogmatic and obtuse as many a televangelist would on a Sunday morning.

[RollWithIt]

66. I think the St. Louis venue would have more than enough Republicans.....

To create audible booing. Also, keep in mind that you have a lot of combined wealth at an all-star game. Ticket prices run high.

[pecwae]

70. It is and I K&R'd this

because, although short, it's something that needed to be said.

[Butch350]

76. A poor tree had to die - for this BS post?

[Forkboy]

77. By the logic of some in this thread, disliking Michael Steele means we're racist.

If disliking a black man is automatically racist like some are trying to imply, then there's a bunch of racists here on DU.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

82. No, only some racists.

If only white people disliked Steele, and for no good reason, then you'd have a case for racism.

[Forkboy]

85. The stupid is strong in this one.

[Hutzpa]

79. I have a simple question

What is the motive behind the Birthers?

[bullwinkle428]

83. Here's the utterly mind-blowing converse. I know a number of people

who I KNOW voted for Obama, yet have uttered comments over the years that were subtle in nature, yet clearly rather racist in their intent!

:dilemma:

[frogmarch]

84. Those who boo him are racists, but

there are people who simply disagree with his policies, and not all of them are racists.