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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:05 AM
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The Senates Republican written job "stimulus" plan was designed to fail
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 11:21 AM by Better Believe It
Stating the obvious: Three Republican Senators (one of whom is allegedly now a Democrat) didn't write a plan that was designed to be a smashing success for President Obama and the Democratic Party. Does that really surprise anyone?

Leading economists, Noriel Roubini called it "puny", pointed out how weak the plan was for actual job creation when three Republican Senators gutted the House plan during conference.

And now we are paying the costs of a so-called "bi-partisan" stimulus agreement. Of course, Republicans can deny they had anything to do with it since it didn't get a single Republican vote in the House.

A powerful job stimulus plan that could have created several million useful public works/infrastructure jobs this year was not proposed the President Obama or the Democratic leadership in Congress. The sound job creation plan proposed by the U.S. Conference of Mayors was not even considered by President Obama and the Democratic congressional leadership! For less than 200 billion dollars, the federal government could have finance over 18,000 useful infrastructure and public works jobs that would have employed 2 million people. All of those projects would have been started and completed before the end of next year.

The economy needed that kind of a powerful economic jolt. This will not happen under the Republican written and Democrat endorsed stimulus plan. A real job creating stimulus plan could have been passed by the Democratic controlled congress without any Republican votes in the Senate. A real Republican "filibuster" in the Senate against an economic recovery would have ended quickly with a cloture vote. And all we needed was 50 Senate votes to pass it with Biden passing the tie-breaker.

Now it will be very difficult to pass a badly needed second stimulus bill, especially when President Obama says he opposed to one!

As the saying goes, the Democrats "blew their wad" with the first bill.

If President Obama and the Democratic Party leadership doesn't get their act together and function as if they had won the 2008 elections, and do this soon, the Republicans will regain their control of Congress and the White House by 2012 with major congressional gains in the 2010 election.

Of course, the Republicans never did lose their control of Congress .... at least it seems that way.

ONCE AGAIN SOME HARD FACTS ON WHERE THE STIMULUS MONEY IS GOING

Only 101 billion of the 787 billion in stimulus money is for infrastructure!

And only a small fraction of that will be spent this year!

Out of 787 billion dollars in job "stimulus" funding here is what will be spent for actual infrastructure and energy job creation projects over the next several years.

Infrastructure - $101 Billion
$30B - Highways
$20B - School Renovation
$17B - Health Information Technology
$13B - Transportation Projects
$8B - Water Projects
$7B - Military and V.A. Construction
$6B - Accelerated Deployment of Broadband

Energy Efficiency - $59.5 Billion
$22B - Federal Energy Efficiency Grants
$19B - Other Energy Efficiency Grants
$11B - Smart Electric Grid
$8B - Renewable Energy Loan Guarantees

Tax Cuts - $314 Billion
$99B - Payroll-Tax Holiday
$90B - Business Expenses Tax Breaks
$25B - Earned Income Tax Credit
$20B - Renewable Energy Tax Credit
$10B - Tuition Tax Credit
$70B - AMT Tax Cut


That's pretty much it.

The three Republican Senators who wrote the stimulus bill took out 40 billion dollars for badly need school construction, tens of billions of dollars in other infrastructure funding and added the annual alternative minimum tax (AMT)fix to the bill in order jack up the amount of the stimulus bill without actually increasing any jobs! It was a non-stimulative addition to the bill. The 70 billion dollar tax cut was going to get passed by the Senate, as it has been every year, without including it in the stimulus package! Senator Grassley proposed adding the AMT fix.

The rest of the stimulus money is mainly for badly needed economic relief such as unemployment compensation and economic assistance to state/local governments. But, those monies won't create very many jobs for the unemployed while they will enable some government workers to keep their jobs for awhile.

Now you should understand why Roubini and other leading economists said the stimulus plan was totally inadequate for the task. Roubini was a little less diplomatic calling it "puny".

And now the Republicans have been put into the position where they can attack "the Obama stimulus" for not creating the millions of jobs promised!

Nice set-up. President Obama and Democratic Party Senate leaders fell for this Republican trap in their quest for a unnecessary and self-defeating "bi-partisanship".

The three Republican Senators (one now a Democrat) gutted the House stimulus plan. Mission accomplished!

Here's the rest of the stimulus breakdown:

Aids For State and Local Gov - $217 Billion
$87B - Medicaid Cost Sharing
$79B - State Grants
$42B - State and Local Bond Tax Credit
$5B - Community Development
$4B - Rural Development

Relief - $120 Billion
$42B - Expanded Unemployment Insurance
$40B - Health Insurance for Unemployed
$20B - Expanded Food Stamps
$11B - Housing Assistance
$4B- Supplemental Social Security Income Payments
$3B - Welfare

Human Capital - $45.5 Billion
$25B - Education Programs
$15B - Federal Pell Grants
$4B - Job Training
$2B - Scientific Research

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:09 AM
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1. i don't think the democratic party 'fell' for anything.
collins and spector and others are a known quantity -- so the better question is WHY?

why when you are in a position to govern -- do you let others who don't have your best interests at heart govern for you?
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:14 AM
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2. Republicans wrote the stimulus bill despite Democratic majority and then voted against it?
Could you explain that? It doesn't make sense. I wasn't aware that Reid and Pelosi are repugs.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:21 AM
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3. delete.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 11:22 AM by masuki bance
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:27 AM
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6. No. The Three Republican Senators who re-wrote the bill voted for it.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 11:29 AM by Better Believe It
After they gutted the House version in conference, they voted for the re-written bill that came out of the joint House/Senate conference.

That supposedly made it a "bi-partisan" bill .... according to some Democrats who warmly saluted the work of those three Republicans.

Is that a clear explanation?

If you need more information just ask!
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:23 AM
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4. This was in the other thread you started.
Gotta K&U the spam...
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:31 AM
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7. Whatever. Your "unrecommend" won't entirely stop DU'ers from reading the post.
Sorry, but you're ability to censor and remove posts you don't like is still limited .... so far.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 12:13 PM
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10. I responded to that thread with some agreement with you.
And I didn't unrecommend it btw. I did this one though. Multiple threads on the same subject by the same poster gets tiresome.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:18 PM
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12. "you're ability to censor and remove posts you don't like is still limited"

maybe not literally "remove" and "censor", but this "handy new feature" effectively buries/sinks "undesirable" posts.

it totally sucks, imo. :(
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:25 AM
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5. Then the Democrats with all the power passed it
So, you know, they bear no responsibility.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:35 AM
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8. That enables the Republicans to blame and hammer Democrats ....
as being responsible for an economic recovery plan that didn't jolt the economy and create millions of jobs as advertised.

The quest for "Bi-partisanship" handed the Republicans a trojan horse which they are now using against Democrats.

Will it also work that way for the healthcare bill?
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:39 AM
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9. Probably
The healthcare reform is doomed to fail anyway. They will probably both work to pin it as an albatross on each other's necks
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:14 PM
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11. absolutely astounding. i CANNOT BELIEVE those who are unreccing this.

:banghead:


kicked and rec'd, but it's hopeless at this point.

Democratic Underground should be renamed as Democratic Groupthink.

:(
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:23 PM
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14. I just unrec'ed it
Just because you complained about it.

I can't believe people are taking this rec/unrec thing so seriously.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:48 PM
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15. Well, they just want fewer DU'ers reading this information so they need to police posts
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 06:49 PM by Better Believe It
Stopping posts from appearing on "the greatest" if it has enough "votes" is exactly "the change they can believe in" for those who demanded the "right" to censor and remove posts.

But like I said, I'm not going to un-recommend any post because that would be undemocratic.

If others want to censor posts by removing them from or stopping them from appearing on "the greatest" in order to reduce the number of views (hits) because they don't like a poster or don't agree with a post that's their decision.

But we don't have to copy and participate in their petty actions which exposes a lack of confidence in and ability to defend their ideas.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:20 PM
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13. Pretty much all of the relief and state and local money is being spent.
That's a very effective use of money. I'm surprised you dismissed it so casually, but then again I'm not.

Of course the stimulus plan should have been bigger, but there was far more pressure in Congress to make it smaller or pass nothing at all than there was to pass a larger plan. Our system is not capable of taking dramatic actions.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:55 PM
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16. recommend
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:07 PM
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17. Yet another Obama did us wrong, BBI. Think I remember we needed those GOP votes to pass anything.
If there was a chance that figure was enough, there was also thinking not to go for more, right after election. Not Krugman and Roubini, of course, but others.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:45 PM
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18. "I remember we needed those GOP votes to pass anything." That's what Republicans said. They lied!
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 10:49 PM by Better Believe It
What gave you the false impression that we needed Republican support to pass a stimulus bill in the Senate?

You were lied to!

Where did you get that "information" from?

I'm listening!

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