Since the "war against communism" hasn't ended, can we round up and detain suspected communists?

[Better Believe It]

until the "war against communism" is won?

Perhaps suspected "communists" can be lumped in with suspected "terrorists" in a new and improved indefinite detention plan.

I think the Constitution can be undermined with a little old fashioned bi-partisanship.

[Mika]

1. Do applying permanent residents still have to swear that they are not & have never been communists?

:crazy:

[Better Believe It]

2. If they don't, lock them up to help win the unending war against communism and terrorism

[IndianaGreen]

3. Sorry, the Cold War is officially over

and back a decade or so ago, the Defense Department issued a special commendation to all those that served during the Cold War period.

Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen has approved a Cold War Recognition Certificate for award to all members of the armed forces and federal government civilian employees who faithfully served the United States during the Cold War era, Sept. 2, 1945, to Dec. 26, 1991. Congress established the Cold War certificate in Section 1084 of the fiscal 1998 National Defense Authorization Act.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=2031

[Better Believe It]

4. But according to the Obama administration Cuba is a terrorist/communist regime!

And Cuba has millions of terrorist/communist supporters all over the world.

So the war against godless, communistic, terrorist, radical, subversive pinkos hasn't been won yet!

Detain all those who question our free market system that has made us a nation with some of the richest people in the world!

Their attempt to subvert and undermine America with their comministic healthcare for all schemes will be defeated!

[IndianaGreen]

8. I don't believe that's what the Obama Administration is saying about Cuba

although John Bolton would say something like that.

The real issue is that the dictatorial powers assumed by Bush, and kept by Obama, are a threat to all of us regardless of our ideology.

[Better Believe It]

10. The Obama administration recently claimed Cuba is supporter of terrorism.

Why the Obama Administration Claims Cuba Is A State Supporter of Terrorism

In their own words:

U.S. law requires the Secretary of State to provide Congress, by April 30 of each year, a full and complete report on terrorism with regard to those countries and groups meeting criteria set forth in the legislation. This annual report is entitled Country Reports on Terrorism. Beginning with the report for 2004, it replaced the previously published Patterns of Global Terrorism.

Chapter 3: State Sponsors of Terrorism
Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism
Country Reports on Terrorism 2008
April 30, 2009

CUBA

Although Cuba no longer actively supports armed struggle in Latin America and other parts of the world, the Cuban government continued to provide safe haven to several terrorists. Members of ETA, the FARC, and the ELN remained in Cuba during 2008, some having arrived in Cuba in connection with peace negotiations with the governments of Spain and Colombia. Cuban authorities continued to publicly defend the FARC. However, on July 6, 2008, former Cuban President Fidel Castro called on the FARC to release the hostages they were holding without preconditions. He has also condemned the FARC's mistreatment of captives and of their abduction of civilian politicians who had no role in the armed conflict.

The United States has no evidence of terrorist-related money laundering or terrorist financing activities in Cuba, although Cuba has one of the world’s most secretive and non-transparent national banking systems. Cuba has no financial intelligence unit. Cuba’s Law 93 Against Acts of Terrorism provides the government authority to track, block, or seize terrorist assets.

The Cuban government continued to permit some U.S. fugitives—including members of U.S. militant groups such as the Boricua Popular, or Macheteros, and the Black Liberation Army to live legally in Cuba. In keeping with its public declaration, the government has not provided safe haven to any new U.S. fugitives wanted for terrorism since 2006.

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2008/122436.htm

So I have just two questions. Why is Cuba listed a nation that supports terrorism?

The State Department fails to provide any evidence that Cuban government is a sponsor of terrorism.

How will falsely labeling them a terrorist regime help establish normal diplomatic, trade and friendly relations with the Cuban people?

This State Department action has pretty much shut down any possibility of serious discussions and exchange of views with Cuban leaders.

Cuba should be taken off that list of four terrorist nations now!

[IndianaGreen]

13. This is the same anti-Cuba old crap the State Department has cranked out for years

and this happens because of the many Bush holdovers still in the government, coupled with the DLC corporatists that Obama and his appointees have brought on board.

The only reason they get away with it is because Democrats as a group are not progressive enough and are easily frightened by talk that they are soft on national security issues.

Real progressives are well informed on the issues, and they would point out that it is the US that provides safe haven for terrorists (Carriles), teaches torture and terrorism (SOA), and thwarts attempts by other countries to fight US-based terrorism (Cuban Five).

BTW, you should post links instead of just ranting without providing any information.

For the other DUers, here is what the OP is referring to, plus Cuba's response (nothing new here from either side):

US keeps Cuba on terrorism blacklist
Apr 30, 2009

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jCC61b_2etb6q1LreN5N-AvbAsdQ

Fidel Castro snubs US terrorism list
Fri, 01 May 2009 08:42:12 GMT

http://www.presstv.ir/classic/detail.aspx?id=93181§ionid=351020702

More significant is the fact that Obama is still refusing to allow Americans to travel freely to Cuba. Lifting the travel ban will expose all the lies that the US has been saying about Cuba for decades.

[Billy Burnett]

15. Worse yet, did you see the latest move by Obama's OFAC?

The anti Cuba crap not only continues but is being stepped-up under Obama despite all of the smiley faced rhetoric.

US OFAC forces Microsoft to shut down Messenger in Cuba
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x15522

:argh:

[Better Believe It]

16. Ranting? Can't find a link?

"BTW, you should post links instead of just ranting without providing any information."

Read my follow-up post in this string with the State Department link.

I posted on May 2, 2009 regarding alleged Cuban terrorism with several links that apparently didn't see.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8386604

[Thothmes]

17. The operative word is "kept by Obama", the Bush administration

is gone It is Obama's now.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. I missed that statement. Did it come out in the Daily Press Briefing or did Obama say it himself?

Surely you'll ease my troubled mind and provide a link?

[Better Believe It]

11. It was a Department of State news release. Is that credible enough?

I don't think that Cuba is a state sponsor of terrorism. Do you?

[cherokeeprogressive]

12. Personally, I don't know well enough to say Yes or No with any degree of certainty. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

14. Please read post 13

I provided some links.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8427956#8428194

There was a LBN thread and discussion a month ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3856535

[QC]

5. Judging from the nonstop red-baiting that we lately hear on this site,

I suspect that many people here would be perfectly fine with locking up the "far left" and anyone else who gets too mouthy about things like constitutional rights and such.

[MadBadger]

7. No you dont.

[QC]

18. There are plenty here who would rationalize it, and even put up photo threads

commemorating the event. Seriously.

[MadBadger]

20. No they Wouldnt

[anonymous171]

6. Comparing far right terrorists to Communists is an insult to Communists. nt

[Thothmes]

19. Even at the height of the Cold War

we did not round up Communists. Remember in the 60s, Gus Hall of the American Communist Party running for President several times.