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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:44 AM
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Having the Healthcare Industry commit to Cutting Costs is JUST THE BEGINNING
Those screaming we got ripped off or that Obama isn't keeping his pledge, need to do a little more reading and stop listening to the drama of Dennis Kucinich.

Obama never promised Single Payer and you should not expect that we are going there.

What he did promise he's started working on. And if you took the time to read Obama's own remarks on this, you'd know that this was a great first step.

From Whitehouse.Gov:

In short, the coalition has agreed to reduce the annual health care spending growth rate by 1.5 percentage points for the next 10 years, a change that could result in savings of roughly $2,500 for American families. Some of the changes the coalition is working on, explained fully in the fact sheet, include:

· Improving Care after Hospitalizations and Reduce Hospital Readmission Rates.
· Reducing Medicare Overpayments to Private Insurers through Competitive Payments.
· Reducing Drug Prices.
· Improving Medicare and Medicaid Payment Accuracy.
· Expanding the Hospital Quality Improvement Program.

The President closed his remarks making clear that this was just the beginning, and certainly no stopgap measure: "So the steps that are being announced today are significant. But the only way these steps will have an enduring impact is if they are taken not in isolation, but as part of a broader effort to reform our entire health care system." And while so much debate over politics and policy can get lost in the mire of facts and figured, the President made clear that his focus is squarely on one thing:

Ultimately, the debate about reducing costs -- and the larger debate about health care reform itself -- is not just about numbers; it's not just about forms or systems; it's about our own lives and the lives of our loved ones. And I understand that. As I've mentioned before during the course of the campaign, my mother passed away from ovarian cancer a little over a decade ago. And in the last weeks of her life, when she was coming to grips with her own mortality and showing extraordinary courage just to get through each day, she was spending too much time worrying about whether her health insurance would cover her bills. So I know what it's like to see a loved one who is suffering, but also having to deal with a broken health care system. I know that pain is shared by millions of Americans all across this country.


But go ahead. Complain that he's saving families real dollars each year. That's your right.

And remember, SEIU was there at those meetings representing labor and to a larger extent, the progressives here who are complaining the loudest. I know many of you who have been screaming SEIU and EMFA are also the ones screaming about this issue. You may want to take it up with your representatives who were in attendance. I think they'll be telling you the same thing: this is just the beginning.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:56 AM
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1. Dennis Kucinich tells the truth.
I will always listen to what he has to say.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:01 AM
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3. I'm with you.
:hug:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:07 AM
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5. Kucinich Dramatizes the Truth to be what he wants it to be. He ignored that this is a first step.
And he's Single-payer ONLY. He won't listen to anything the administration has to offer on this issue anyway.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:27 AM
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11. Kucinich's truth is not based on reality.
I agree with much of what he says and in a perfect, Utopian world his ideal's might work, but he doesn't seem to understand that we live in an imperfect world where we simply can't just wave a magic want and make all the health insurance companies go away or snap our fingers and bring an end to all wars.

He's a dreamer, and that's fine, but there comes a time when one must come back down to the real world.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:00 AM
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2. I never expected a Single Payer System under Obama.
Most of us are just pleading: Be careful, Leaving the Drug Cos, and
Insurance Cos in charge can bring the Republican Lite GWB wanted but
did not get to initiate.

What is the enforcement mechanism that will be used against the companies
when and I say when they fail to live up to their promise????

We can push and support Single Payer and know Obama will not have this.
It is good for Obama not to have everyone lie down and roll over agreeing
on every issue. Otherwise he will simply roll over for Health Industry.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:05 AM
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4. The thing I don't get, is how are these promises made binding?
I don't see that 3 years from now they won't be funding a Republican candidate who will let them return to the old scheme.


Seems to me we want real change in the laws. We want to create a system that will allow poor people to get health insurance without paying added penalties because their income gives them a low credit score.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:20 AM
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6. Bashing one of a handful of Democrats who deserve that name
does nothing for your argument.
Obama did promise many things he has now forgotten. But those who voted for him because of those promises have not forgotten them.
No one I know who has not health care plan will suddenly be able to afford one if it is $2500 less a year. That is a joke only a rich man could tell. The punch line is the American people.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:03 AM
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15. The only ones who are Bashing Democrats are people like you who scream we are being RIPPED OFF
And saying Obama is going against his promises. You are the basher my friend.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:26 AM
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7. Single Payer is a pipe dream. Its a losing battle
As soon as people get over it. The better chance we have at getting something serious done about Healthcare. Like getting the Public Option in there.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:01 AM
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9. Agreed.
Sorry but you're not going to take down a big behemoth like the healthcare industry all in one fell swoop.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:29 AM
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8. The beginning of what? They will increase health care costs over 6 trillion dollars in ten years.
Edited on Wed May-13-09 08:30 AM by Better Believe It
Read their public news release.

Without their alleged "cuts", they claim that health costs will increase by 6.2%, that's over 8 trillion dollars in the next decade.

Their bogus cut will reduce that down to only 6 trillion dollars.

Thanks a lot.

Is that "change" we can embrace?

Sorry.

I stopped believing the insurance and for profit health care industry long ago.

But, if you wish to believe their p.r. propaganda that's your right.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:16 AM
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10. That's right. Nothing is being cut. They are just saying that they won't raise costs as much to keep
Edited on Wed May-13-09 09:16 AM by w4rma
their stock prices going up as fast.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:28 AM
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12. yeah, i did see where the travelocity gnome is upset. poor lil fella.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:29 AM
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13. LOL!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:42 AM
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14. he's a decent guy but he's more of a dramatic grandstander than someone who can actually accomplish
something. his heart is in the right place.
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