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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:04 PM
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Pick a woman, Snowe and Boxer tell Obama
Pick a woman, Snowe and Boxer tell Obama
Posted: 05:30 PM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sens. Barbara Boxer of California, a Democrat, and Olympia Snowe of Maine, a Republican, sent the following letter to President Obama Monday.

The President
The White House
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

The announced retirement of United States Supreme Court Justice David Souter—an outstanding jurist—has left you with the crucial task of nominating someone for a lifetime appointment to our nation’s highest bench.

The most important thing is to nominate an exceptionally well-qualified, intelligent person to replace Justice Souter – and we are convinced that person should be a woman.

Women make up more than half of our population, but right now hold only one seat out of nine on the United States Supreme Court. This is out of balance. In order for the Court to be relevant, it needs to be diverse and better reflect America.

Mr. President, we look forward with great anticipation to your choice for the Supreme Court vacancy.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/11/pick-a-woman-snowe-and-boxer-tell-obama/
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:08 PM
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1. Pick the most qualified person. Period.
Obama seems to get this, though.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:12 PM
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2. "The most qualified" MUST be a woman - since only a woman can...
...begin to balance the court so that it reflects the country.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:32 PM
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6. Actually, it "MUST" be a poor, handicapped, Hispanic Jewish lesbian.
...if you're using the "representation" card as your sole criterion.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:36 PM
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8. That would be true if the poor, handicapped, Hispanics, Jews or lesbians...
Edited on Mon May-11-09 05:40 PM by polichick
...made up more than half the country.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:51 PM
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11. They're still all horrendously underrepresented on the Supreme Court.
The Senate isn't even close to parity either. Given a choice, do you always vote for the female candidate?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:01 PM
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14. None of those other categories are as basic as gender differences...
Male and female energies TOGETHER make the world go 'round (so to speak) ~ the SC should be made up of 5 women and 4 men (of various backgrounds, ethnic groups, etc.) if we want it to reflect this country's citizens.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:05 PM
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15. If the sole criterion is mimicking the country's gender mix, I agree.
But if you're arguing that things like gender MUST be on par with the general population, you have to also demand parity in things like age, race, sexual orientation, able-bodiedness, etc.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:08 PM
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16. Yes, as I said, the 5 women and 4 men should also reflect different...
...backgrounds, ethnic groups, etc.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:15 PM
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20. So, you'd appoint a less qualified woman over a more qualified man, based solely on gender?
...and your desire for the SCOTUS's balance to match that of the country at large?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:20 PM
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22. It doesn't work that way...
Since there are plenty of EQUALLY QUALIFIED candidates, both men and woman, it's easy to balance on the basis of gender.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:45 PM
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25. I'm trying to establish your qualification hierarchy.
Since you said that it "MUST" be a woman, does gender trump actual job-related qualifications?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:55 PM
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27. My last post addresses that - since there are plenty of qualified people...
...both men and women, that isn't an issue.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:57 PM
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28. Jews are horrendously underrepresented?
The Supreme Court currently consists of five Catholics, two Jews, and one Protestant. Less than 2% of the US population is Jewish. There are something like thirteen or fourteen Jewish Senators.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:09 PM
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33. Just like Clarence Thomas balanced the court?
There are a lot of women whom he could pick who would actually point the court in the wrong direction. Appoint the best qualified, who might very well be a woman, or it might be an African American, or a GLBT, or an Hispanic, or a Native American, or God forbid, even a white man.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:22 PM
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34. That example doesn't work - this is a Democratic president choosing...
...between many equally qualified left-leaning men and women, not between an unqualified woman and a qualified man.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:26 PM
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36. I agree. In this case, being female ought to be one of those
qualifications.

There isn't a horribly limited pool to choose from - such that there's one iffy female choice, and many wonderful male choices.

There are many, many completely qualified women who could fill that seat. And a court with one woman on it does not represent the country well. Women are 51% of the population. Past time that's better reflected in our government.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:31 PM
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5. funny how historically the "most qualified" have overwhelmingly been men
pure fucking bullshit
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:34 PM
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7. Thayt's changing and it will continue to change.
I still don't believe in "hiring" somebody for reasons that don't have to do with the job.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:38 PM
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9. a balanced court of law is important
and has EVERYTHING to do with the job
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:53 PM
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12. A penis (or lack thereof) is not a qualification for anything other than reproductary roles.
...in my opinion.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:08 PM
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18. that is YOUR problem
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:13 PM
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19. Well, I don't consider it a "problem", but ok...
Your opinion is noted.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:37 PM
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24. The Suggestion That Judges Render Opinions On The Basis of Personal Bias

...is frankly insulting to the woman who will be appointed.

This kind of thinking leads to figures such as Clarence Thomas who pull so hard against their presumed bias that they come down the other way.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:53 PM
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26. in no way did I suggest that
YOU did
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:00 PM
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29. BS - it is inherent in this notion that justices "represent" anyone

Each individual justice represents nothing other than their studied opinion of the law applied to the case before them, and their view of the arguments and supporting precedent cited in the briefs.

Given a choice between Laurence Tribe and Sarah Palin, I'd go with Tribe. YMMV.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:08 PM
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30. your example is freaking ludicrous
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:02 PM
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31. Ditto.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:07 PM
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32. What a crazy reading of a perfectly sensible post!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:55 PM
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13. There are many criteria to be qualified. There is nothing wrong if ONE of these criteria is to
Edited on Mon May-11-09 05:58 PM by Mass
balance the court so that women are more represented. It is not as if he was going to get a woman in the phonebook and name her. There are qualified women.

There is nothing wrong making sure the court looks somewhat like the country.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:15 PM
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3. only if you become a Democrat first
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:18 PM
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4. I would like Boxer ... but that will never happen...the repukes would
be on fire...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:50 PM
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10. Red Rover, red rover, send Olympia Snowe over....nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:08 PM
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17. Lol - haven't heard that in a while!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:16 PM
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21. Well, Ollie needs to hear it! She's a Roving Red, come to the Blue side! nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:22 PM
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23. Good one! :)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:24 PM
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35. Absolutely
And let's go right ahead and make her a scary-smart, liberal woman, shall we?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:33 PM
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37. "scary-smart, liberal woman" - Works for me!!
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:53 PM
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38. Yeah! Rachel Maddow! Scary-smart, lesbian, liberal woman.
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