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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:53 PM
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More proof that he is heading the right way.
I have had my disappointments in a few of the president's decisions, but heard a story on NPR today that really buoyed me up. The story was about how the administration was dumping the bipartisanship fiasco. President Obama is a quick learner. It took longer for Clinton to figure out how devious and duplicitous his "friends" across the aisle were. Maybe this is another place where Hillary can help. She knows about how that side works, and how they can't be trusted to keep their word or put the good of the country first.

Love to see me a fighting Democrat. We need to be channeling Paul Wellstone.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:59 PM
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1. And I'd love to find out he's giving the Financial Companies enough rope to hang
themselves and that when they do, he will start breaking them apart and putting them under government management.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 06:00 PM
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2. A co-worker just stopped by my desk...
"Obama is screwing everything up," he says, with this disgusted, sour look on his face.

I wanted to ask him, "Do you post on DU?" But instead I just told him that I disagree, and why.

*sigh*

It's gonna be a long four years.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 06:04 PM
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3. Just remind him about how Bush screwed up for eight years.
I cut people like this down immediately.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 06:04 PM
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4. Is this co-worker a known democrat?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 09:54 AM
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13. He's an independent...
he supported Obama eventually, but he 'had trouble deciding'. I really can't take anyone who said that at all seriously anymore. It's like a badge of idiocy.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:18 PM
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5. The US people and Congress were a whole lot more conservative in '93 they gained seats in '92.
Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 07:19 PM by Captain Hilts
He had no choice but to go along.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:24 PM
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7. Oh, I agree.
I wasn't going after Clinton. He tried his best to be cooperative, but they had it in for him from the word go. Same with Obama. But this time the country is tired enough of the republican crap to support a little more unilateral effort. We've had it with republican lies and greed. As I said, I worried that Obama would try to keep his campaign promise to always cooperate even after he found out what republican cooperation was like. I still bet Hillary has had a few talks with him about her and Bill's experience with this.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:13 PM
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9. I agree Obama has learned some things from Bubba's experience. nt
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:40 PM
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12. The Republicans going after Clinton was payback for Nixon
That is the way politics works inside the Beltway. Remember the Republican who delivered the Articles of Impeachment was Henry Hyde. That is Henry Hyde, who had a mistress for years while married, who carried those articles up to be officially delivered.

That is one reason I suspect the Dems had no enthusiasm to impeach Bush*, despite his obvious criminal conduct. Right or wrong, inside the Beltway, Republicans never forget and it would only be a matter of time until a Democratic President became a target for retaliation for any Bush* impeachment. That is how it has worked in the past, and it will continue in the future for as long as the Republican party continues to exist. You take one of ours; we will take one of yours.

Sam
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:43 PM
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16. Timeline out of whack.
Or did the republicans just give Carter a pass?

Clinton was the anti-reagan. And he was popular. Plus he was ruining the neocon dream of perpetual domination. They don't need a reason like payback.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:08 PM
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18. Sorry to disagree but it was openly admitted by a Republican
(who laughed about it.) The Republicans had nothing scandelous on Carter rising to the level of oral sex in the White House.

Sam
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:17 PM
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19. O brother, where art thou.
The republicans spent millions of your tax money to find anything on Clinton. Did you miss the WhiteWater game? They were looking for anything. They didn't do that to Carter.

I have no doubt that they were pissed about Nixon, but just because some rep wag wants to make a joke that they were playing tit for tat, doesn't make it so.

Is your contention that now that they have done Clinton, they won't go after Obama? Or do you think we should scuttle any prosecution of dick and george because we have to be afraid that the republicans will get us back? This isn't just a gotcha game. It's politics. It's ongoing, and it became more nasty after Reagan.
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:19 PM
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6. Do you have a link to this story?
I'd love to read/hear it.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:29 PM
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8. I think I can.
I really stink at sound files on the computer (old guy here), but here is the link to the NPR page with a sound link. Let me know if this doesn't work.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102572748
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:14 PM
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10. President Obama knew they wouldn't work with him. Now he
can say he tried. They lose. Trust me he doesn't need any help in knowing what slime he's dealing with.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:37 PM
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15. Trust you?
What deep insight and personal contact do you have with President Obama that lets you be more privy to his thinking than I do?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:24 PM
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11. LOL @ fiasco. You do realize that it never mattered if his attempts WORKED....
.... all that mattered was that he TRIED.

We have a very popular President. I believe he is much more popular now than he would have been if he'd blown into town like the Ball Buster in Chief and tried to mow the GOP over.

We love partisan battles ..... the Freepers love partisan battles ...... but the folks in the middle ..... the ones Barack has to work to KEEP .... hate them. As long as he keeps OFFERING to work with the GOP, (aside from any other unexpected factors) then he'll continue to have the support of the middle.

And you need the middle to win an election.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:36 PM
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14. Your opinion.
Mine is that people, all the people who voted for him, wanted him to change Washington. They didn't want him to hang on to the bush ideas. They wanted him to lead, not dither about, wasting our time and his with trying to get republicans to like him. His dithering cost us the ability to keep the electorate framed on who caused the messes we are in. Now, since he spent all that time giving them access to the oval office so they could come out and criticize him, they mix him in with them. My opinion is that he should have done more of telling people that he is having to do this budget and this tax and this program because the last administration screwed up. Instead, he said how much he wanted to work with them. He should have said that he wanted them to work with him. After the election, people knew the republicans were wrong. By trying to "reach out" he just legitimized them. Had he used his immense momentum to point accusing fingers at those who caused this mess, he would have had more of them trying to get out of the way of that finger and lining up behind him.

The OP is in praise of him for seeing the error of his ways and moving quickly into a more productive stance. You can't dance with the devil just to be polite.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 02:38 PM
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17. Thank you Clio. It amazes me that even now, people don't see
that. And he will continue to offer the olive branch. Doesn't matter if they accept. The high road is unassailable. I'm tired of people claiming "he learned his lesson". If they would only open there eyes, maybe they could learn from him.
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