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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:02 PM
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The difference between MTP with Tim Russert and with David Gregory
I just noticed this weekend that Gregory played clips of Obama to McCain and invited him to criticize him when Russert would've played clips of MCCAIN with McCain there and asked him to explain himself. Boy have things gone downhill over there.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:03 PM
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1. I agree.
Tim Russert could piss me off, but I found him watchable and he was good for the thing you pointed out occasionally. Meanwhile, David Gregory is just hopeless at this point.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:12 PM
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7. It was sickening to watch Gregory playing clips of Obama to McCain and then
just about trashing him WITH McCain with the questions he asked.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:05 PM
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23. prompting and leading the witness--like Rove's backup dancers has a schematic for each show
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:33 PM
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17. I used to rail at Russert, but now that
Gregory is on I miss Russert. I always get the feeling that Gregory has a smirk in his voice when he is interviewing Democrats.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:04 PM
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2. I can't even watch MTP anymore. I wish Farid Zakaria
had that show.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:14 PM
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8. It doesn't seem like that type of show is Zakaria's style.
Maybe David Shuster should've gotten it and Ed Schultz could've taken 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:26 PM
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15. Yes, Shuster would have been much better. At least he calls
people out and challenges the BS. Maybe if MTP ratings sink, they will replace Gregory.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:44 PM
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18. Yup. He has played video clips of Repubs. contradicting themselves on
his show in his Hypocrisy Watch segment. MTP would be right up his alley.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:25 AM
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28. I don't - whil I am compltely unimpressed with Gregory,
I really have a problem with Zakaria. Zakaria is very smooth, very very smart, but he seems to b a neo-con. He is far harder on Democrats than he is on Republicans - and this goes back at least until 2004 - where he often questioned Kerry's motives, but never Bush's. He was the WORST at the time of Kerry/Feingold, which he said Kerry knew was wrong - which is, of course, the opposite of the truth.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:25 AM
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29. I didn't know that. I've been watching his GPS Sunday show on
CNN and he seems to generate intelligent, informed discussions, not the 'gotcha' game. I hadn't seen too much of him before that.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:37 AM
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30. I agree that the format on GPS is great - leading to very good discussions
with serious people who are not spouting sound bites. I wish there were more programs of that type.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:06 PM
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3. What is "Night and Day"? I'll take 'Political Talk Shows' for $500, Alex.*
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 03:07 PM by DrToast
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:15 PM
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9. Exactly.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:07 PM
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4. You are so right jen...
I can't watch it anymore. Gregory is a right wing tool.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:17 PM
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12. Thanks, firedupdem...
Me, neither as of this past week.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:10 PM
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5. Russert = MTP (Meet The Press) --- Gregory = BTP (Beat The Press)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:11 PM
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6. Gregory = BTP (Beat The President) you mean.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:15 PM
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10. Gregory doesn't hide his bias
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:16 PM
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11. Gregory let Geithner get away with not answering question after question
and he even Geithner change the subject to his loyalty to the President. I don't know if Gregory knows what he's doing or not, but Geithner sure looked weak and got away with it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:18 PM
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13. I think he was a lot more aggressive with Geithner than with McCain who he
treated as his buddy.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:29 PM
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16. I think in the case of the Geithner "interview" it may be more a matter
that noone knows what questions to ask or what is really going on, and maybe people really don't want to know what's going on.

so-called journalists want to make themselves part of the story, and the average person can't or won't put their brain to work.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:25 PM
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14. Russert was routinely excoriated as "GE Russert" at DU and Gregory was praised to the skies...
when he aggressively questioned Fleischer and McClellan. Bottom line, he's a fucking hack out to make a buck. He wasn't the reincarnation of Edward R. Murrow then, and he's not evil personified now.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:55 PM
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20. I never considered Russert anything but respectable in his job. Gregory WAS
aggressive in questioning Fleischer and McClellan. It all seemed to change after he danced with Rove at some event-the one where the press and admin. party together. I have a mindblock as to the name.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:46 PM
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19. I sleep in the wee hours of Sunday morning, but my mom watches it after church.
She's done. She can't stand David Gregory.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:55 PM
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21. Good for your mom!
She gets it! :)
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:59 PM
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22. NBC should be embarrassed by Gregory. He's not up to the Russert seat.
And I wasn't a fan of Tim Russert after he went All Monica - All The Time in 1998. I think NBC should have gone back to the original format of MTP with a moderator and panelists to ask questions of the guest -- instead of the guest/moderator and panel/moderator division they now have. Bring 'em all in together to go after it -- that's the only way this show will survive. "Stretch" will never do it for me.
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:27 PM
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24. Gregory seems to have it in for Obama
He strikes me as a Repuke tool. His panels are some of the least balanced ones I have seen on MTP in years.


Can't stand the guy...He should get back to rapping with Rove :eyes:.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:31 PM
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25. MTP with Tim Russert: I watched it.
MTP with David Gregory: I don't.

Not once have I watched that program since Gregory took over.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:05 AM
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26. no...Russert sucked, too
had double standards for interviewing Publickers and interviewing Democrats.
Let's not allow his canonization by the media to distort reality.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:09 AM
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27. True.
Watching the Timmeth was painful. I turned off the TV during his 2 week long wake. I have never watched the new guy. Gregory can't even pretend that he's a heavyweight. At least, Russert played it up.
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