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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:43 AM
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Reading the other side of the story. A letter of resignation from an AIG executive vice president.
This executive was apparently taking a $1 salary, and was to receive a retention bonus of over $700K in March. That seems to me to be an obscene amount of money, no matter how talented one is. However, I do think it is important to read contrarian views, and this letter represents that. What is becoming clear to me from various articles is that these employees, although having worked at the AIG FP division, did not have anything to do with the credit default swaps. I feel lied to by the media on this count. That was a pretty important piece of information we should have been given in order to adjust our Outrage Machine Capacity.

It is normal to receive bonuses, by the way, when a company is going under. Even little guys like me were offered a small retention bonus to stay on at a company that was closing. I think the problem is that AIG has not adjusted to the new reality: that a $1 million bonus is completely out of whack.

Take his letter with as many grains of salt as you want. Maybe he is not telling the truth. He certainly is tone deaf about his sense of entitlement on the amount of money he deserves. But I have seen good people destroyed by the Outrage Machine in the past (especially Democrats and activists targeted by the right wing smear machine), and that makes me pause when we accept Outrage without considering all the facts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/25/opinion/25desantis.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

The following is a letter sent on Tuesday by Jake DeSantis, an executive vice president of the American International Group’s financial products unit, to Edward M. Liddy, the chief executive of A.I.G.

DEAR Mr. Liddy,

It is with deep regret that I submit my notice of resignation from A.I.G. Financial Products. I hope you take the time to read this entire letter. Before describing the details of my decision, I want to offer some context:

I am proud of everything I have done for the commodity and equity divisions of A.I.G.-F.P. I was in no way involved in — or responsible for — the credit default swap transactions that have hamstrung A.I.G. Nor were more than a handful of the 400 current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage.

After 12 months of hard work dismantling the company — during which A.I.G. reassured us many times we would be rewarded in March 2009 — we in the financial products unit have been betrayed by A.I.G. and are being unfairly persecuted by elected officials. In response to this, I will now leave the company and donate my entire post-tax retention payment to those suffering from the global economic downturn. My intent is to keep none of the money myself.

I take this action after 11 years of dedicated, honorable service to A.I.G. I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, nor am I being paid to do so. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down.


Most of his wrath lies with Liddy. Here are some interesting pieces of information:

But you also are aware that most of the employees of your financial products unit had nothing to do with the large losses. And I am disappointed and frustrated over your lack of support for us. I and many others in the unit feel betrayed that you failed to stand up for us in the face of untrue and unfair accusations from certain members of Congress last Wednesday and from the press over our retention payments, and that you didn’t defend us against the baseless and reckless comments made by the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut.

My guess is that in October, when you learned of these retention contracts, you realized that the employees of the financial products unit needed some incentive to stay and that the contracts, being both ethical and useful, should be left to stand. That’s probably why A.I.G. management assured us on three occasions during that month that the company would “live up to its commitment” to honor the contract guarantees.

That may be why you decided to accelerate by three months more than a quarter of the amounts due under the contracts. That action signified to us your support, and was hardly something that one would do if he truly found the contracts “distasteful.”

That may also be why you authorized the balance of the payments on March 13.

At no time during the past six months that you have been leading A.I.G. did you ask us to revise, renegotiate or break these contracts — until several hours before your appearance last week before Congress.


I just want to end by saying that I don't present this letter because I sympathize with the guy -- I simply cannot, given his continued "feel sorry for me" schtick while he clearly will be able to retire with millions. He is as tone deaf as his boss Liddy. However, I am presenting it because many facts were left out, and now, after the fury is over, they are finally coming out.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:46 AM
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1. Obfuscation
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 09:46 AM by WeDidIt
What was one of the financial products?

Securities that had part of their financial basis in default credit swaps.

There is not a single financial product in the market that doesn't have as part of its foundation, these toxic assets.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:49 AM
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3. I am talking about blame here. Clearly, the FP division did more
than credit default swaps. It is the CDS's that got AIG into trouble. If someone can do some detective work and determine how much this person is to blame, that would be great. But if he worked on a completely different product that did NOT blow up and is still profitable to this day, well then, he is not to blame for AIG crashing.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:58 AM
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7. I don't beleive the FP did any default credit swaps
They sold bundles of securities that had as part of their basis, default credit swaps.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:43 AM
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9. Corn future?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:49 AM
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2. A rat disembarks the SS AIG
Hoping to land on his feet with a nice shiny resume before the AIG breakup that is sure to come.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:50 AM
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4. Boo FUCKING Woo!
:eyes: :thumbsdown:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:56 PM
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17. What does Boo Woo mean?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:53 AM
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5. Let's have the names then, guy.
"Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage."

If he knows who those responsible are, he should spill.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:56 AM
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6. "They" the unnamable "they". (nt)
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:01 PM
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12. Government knows them well. Joseph Cassano, head of the CDS unit left when
things went bad with 300 million. He is living in Florida.

Administration, congressional bank oversight people--they all know who he is.

Just google his name.


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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:10 PM
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20. Yet the media keeps waving the bonuses around...
and people keep following along.

*sigh*
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warpigs Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:06 AM
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8. Not sure if you are worth the $1
So this dude is an Executive VP of the Financial Products division and has no idea what is going on with part of his division that is selling over a trillion dollars in credit guarantees?

He never discussed systemic risks regarding his commodities practice and the housing bubble?

No wonder this fell apart so quickly.

You don't deserve the $1.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:45 AM
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10. Break their backs, make them humble!
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:53 AM
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11. If he is accurate, the politicians have bamboozled people to cover their own as**es.


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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:23 PM
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13. I am still waiting to completely judge
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 12:33 PM by joeglow3
You see, I went through this in 2001, as an employee of Arthur Andersen. While there may be some ethical issues with what Andersen did at Enron, the government's case against them was complete BS (as the Supreme Court ultimately ruled). We all knew at the time that it was nothing more than a witchhunt, that was taking down 85,000 jobs because of the behavior of a couple dozen people in Houston and Chicago. We had our house representative come in and speak to our office. He flat out admitted that we were most likely getting a shaft, but that since we were almost exclusively white collar workers, we were an easy scapegoat. He also admitted Bush wanted a scapegoat to take the heat off of himself and his oil ties, so he would let this all happen.

Essentially, I know how much it blows to have your name run through the mud for something you had absolutely nothing to do with.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:33 PM
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15. Sorry that happened to you at Arthur Anderson. Glad you posted it because so much
information gets filtered and somewhat falsified by government, press, and media that the first-person reports mean a lot when trying to understand an issue.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:31 PM
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14. I know empathising with people like this is taboo in DU
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 12:36 PM by Uzybone
but are these the type of guys we should be outraged at? Im sure he is not presenting thw wholw picture, but I bet they are lots of honest people at AIG (and Wall St in general) who through no fault of their own are being derided as thieves. I'm not saying I feel sorry for the guy, but most of the blame for this should land squarely at the feet of Congress, Phil Gramm and the SEC.


"I take this action after 11 years of dedicated, honorable service to A.I.G. I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, nor am I being paid to do so. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down.

You and I have never met or spoken to each other, so I’d like to tell you about myself. I was raised by schoolteachers working multiple jobs in a world of closing steel mills. My hard work earned me acceptance to M.I.T., and the institute’s generous financial aid enabled me to attend. I had fulfilled my American dream.

I started at this company in 1998 as an equity trader, became the head of equity and commodity trading and, a couple of years before A.I.G.’s meltdown last September, was named the head of business development for commodities. Over this period the equity and commodity units were consistently profitable — in most years generating net profits of well over $100 million. Most recently, during the dismantling of A.I.G.-F.P., I was an integral player in the pending sale of its well-regarded commodity index business to UBS. As you know, business unit sales like this are crucial to A.I.G.’s effort to repay the American taxpayer."
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:40 PM
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16. "raised by schoolteachers working multiple jobs in a world of closing steel mills"

I find this man's letter more credible than any of the statement of outrage of our politicians over the bonus issue. I hope he is being accurate and hope it changes the phony debate into a real debate.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:22 PM
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18. as a VP of the division...he had to know something about what was going on
(IMO)
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 02:14 PM
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19. Not necessarily. He was in Commodity and Equity Division-may have had no input into bad unit
As he wrote:

I am proud of everything I have done for the commodity and equity divisions of A.I.G.-F.P. I was in no way involved in — or responsible for — the credit default swap transactions that have hamstrung A.I.G. Nor were more than a handful of the 400 current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage.

After 12 months of hard work dismantling the company — during which A.I.G. reassured us many times we would be rewarded in March 2009 — we in the financial products unit have been betrayed by A.I.G. and are being unfairly persecuted by elected officials. In response to this, I will now leave the company and donate my entire post-tax retention payment to those suffering from the global economic downturn....


<http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-why-im-quitting-aig-2009-3>


I suspect many people including some in government are busy right now trying to find something on him---

If DeSantis is telling the truth I hope every politician who jumped on him and others in the same position, are totally discredited.

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