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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:08 PM Original message |
Does anyone know what Krugman is referring to |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. If Obama waits until the end of the year |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. So he's predicting failure? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. Krugman's goal revealed, |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Krugman is getting to be increasingly curmudgeonly |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. It took lots of blood sweat and tears to pass the original stimulus |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. No, I believe that what Krugman knows is needed is actually closer to |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Do you really think that Obama couldn't have got a larger |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. It was written by three Republicans and conservative Democrats which explains it's weakness |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Sure, that's Krugman being |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. Krugman sometimes believes the inside the beltway spin instead of reality |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. He's making a prediction of what's likely to be the case 6 months from now |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. No, he's |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. "the premise that Obama doesn't get it and his heading down a path toward failure." |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. So Krugman and other economists have made that determination that Obama doesn't get it? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. They're looking at the policies- and the numbers which don't add up |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. "The general public doesn't like the bank bailouts- and is growing increasingly impatient" |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 02:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Here's some 'proof.' |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Job losses are worse than what was predicted. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. You know, you simply misread a hypothetical that Krugman |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The sentence before this doens't make hypothetical predictions about failure okay. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You misrepresent the meat of Krugman's column. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. No I didn't, I asked a question, and presented the current numbers. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Here ya go: |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. But |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. You presented current numbers of Obama's popularity with the public. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I'm asking |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. They're not conclusions. They're projections. Big difference. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. "the point of predicting failure today is to avoid the failure tomorrow." |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Why not ask Obama that question? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. "Much of the sales job he did to get the stim passed involved discussing hypothetical situations" |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Sounds like you misunderstood the article. He was projecting into the future, a hypothetical, if... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. he's not predicting failure |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. Krugman can get it very wrong sometimes. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. And his prize was work done on the topic world trade patterns |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Krugman and Friedman are polls apart though |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. He loves saying what President Obama should do without |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. He's not speaking NOW, it is part of the scenario that he started in the previous paragraph |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I know he's not speaking now. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. I think the spending that is unpopular that he is speaking of is the bank money - |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Thanks for the summary - well done. |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. He was speaking in a hypothetical sense.. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. My take on this is based on Krugman's book... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That's a good take. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I agree with everything you said here. I actually think... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Nice analysis - I need to get that book and read it |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Thanks, karynnj. It's a really good, but compact... |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Agree that this provides cover to act boldly...good point. Also...PObama is not |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
40. Way to take things out of context!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Out of context? |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Krugman says right in the article that he isn't making a prediction. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
44. Krugman and Rush Limbaugh both want President Obama to fail. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. I think Krugman basically has good ideas but no concept of politics |
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