Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Get Ready Democrats -- Obama’s opponents are getting set to “Unleash Hell”

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 05:59 PM
Original message
Get Ready Democrats -- Obama’s opponents are getting set to “Unleash Hell”

Get Ready Democrats -- Obama’s opponents are getting set to “Unleash Hell”

It has taken several days for the full implications of Obama’s budget and message to sink in among conservatives and Republicans, but now the surprise has passed and the gloves are coming off.

The conservative hope that Obama might actually be the timid, dithering, “split the difference” centrist that some progressives feared he was has now evaporated. On the contrary, the scope of his ambition to be a solidly progressive Roosevelt-style president makes him appear as a genuine threat -- not just for committed Republicans, but to a substantial group beyond. For many, this threat is so grave that insuring the defeat of Obama’s political program now takes priority over what might be best for the economy.

The larger group beyond the usual Republican base that finds Obama’s program threatening is essentially comprised of the substantial number of relatively un-ideological Middle Americans – small businesspeople, managers and office park voters among others -- who –deep down – simply don’t accept a Keynesian view of economics or understand the need for significant, ongoing government intervention in the economy. On survey questions they will often support certain specific and appealing government programs but then will simultaneously reject “deficit spending”, “big government” and “regulations” as unambiguous evils. If you asked many of these Americans to choose between, on the one hand, a “lost decade of growth” like Japan suffered as well as continuing crises in health care, energy and the environment and, on the other hand, the unknown long-term political consequences of a wildly successful and deeply progressive Democratic Presidency, many will hem and haw for a moment but finally opt for “the devil they know” – recession and stagnation – rather than the uncharted waters of an energetically progressive future.

The result is that Democrats can’t rely on Obama’s tremendous advantage in personal popularity right now to keep the Republicans on the defensive. On the contrary, Democrats must begin preparing to defend themselves against a massive, well-financed and coordinated, three pronged offensive.

Prong Number 1 -- The Official Party Line – The most familiar and visible of the three prongs of this offensive is the official Republican Party -- represented by the Congressional Republicans and the Republican National Committee. By now virtually every politically involved American has heard the official Republican position. The battle against Obama is a direct clash between socialism and the free market, between liberalism gone completely berserk and the traditional American Way. Buried in the byzantine twists and turns of Rush Limbaugh’s epic , Fidel Castro- length, pronunciamento to the Conservative Political Action Conference last week lie a collection of virtually every one of his “oldies but goodies” and “greatest hits” drawn from his radio show.

By itself, however, this official Republican message will not be sufficient. It needs to be reinforced by two additional forces to successfully challenge Obama’s coalition. It needs (1) “responsible” apologists to give it intellectual cover with more moderate voters and (2) “Black Ops’ boys” to do the political “wet work” – the stuff too ugly to display in public.

Prong Number 2 -- The “Responsible” Apologists -- David Brooks’ retreat into the boilerplate anti-Obama rhetoric of the Republican National Committee in his recent New York Times column (misleadingly titled “a Moderate Manifesto”) signals the groveling surrender of the “responsible” and “sophisticated” conservatives to the Republican Party base. As Ed Kilgore has noted, for Brooks,’ "moderation is defined as compromise, any kind of compromise, and "moderates" are invariably urged to pursue a course of action that coincides with the immediate political needs of the Republican Party… you will note that (Brooks’) column

<...>

Prong Number 3. The “Black Ops’ boys” -- The final weeks of the 2008 campaign showed that the “sub-rosa” smear campaigns describing Obama as a secret Moslem, a Black militant and left-wing terrorist were not sufficient to sink his campaign. But careful observers were quick to note that the biggest multi-million dollar independent conservative propaganda organizations like Freedom Watch had held back for various reasons, including their profoundly ambivalent feelings toward John McCain. But now, faced with what they perceive as a vastly more terrifying threat than Bill Clinton ever was, they are going to come roaring back like the proverbial bat out of hell.

The new “Black Ops’ attacks” will be of three basic kinds:

First, they will organize and subsidize phony grass roots movements and protests. The most dramatic recent example of this is CNBC newscaster Rick Santelli’s “tea party” diatribe. As several sources cited by Paul Rosenberg in Open Left noted:

<...>

Second, the Black Ops forces will underwrite campaigns that are known to be false but which provide particularly provocative and inflammatory issues for grass-roots consumption. The most significant current example of this is the lawsuits over Barack Obama’s birth certificate. As an article in Politico noted:

<...>

Finally, there is the vast range of utterly false but easily circulated rumors designed to create a general climate of doubt and suspicion. Here is one typical recent e-mail campaign:

<...>

The people in each of the three prongs of this coming offensive will sanctimoniously insist that they have absolutely nothing in common with each other. The “responsible” conservatives, for example, will insist they are entirely appalled by the tactics of the Black Op’s boys.

more



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:03 PM
Response to Original message
1. BRING IT ON. eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Well, they're fairly predictable. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
3. So what else is new?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
4. Ever thing they do backfires on them ..they are imploding. Popcorn please. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. Oooh, I'm scared!
They're gonna come out from their parents' basements!

Give it up, Repugs. Your time has passed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:05 PM
Response to Original message
6. Tell me again: WHO WON??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:07 PM
Response to Original message
7. no matter what they do, they are screwed...
they can either A) continue to spout the same policies which are now labled FAILURES after the last 8 years OR B)attempt to recreate their stances and policies and look weak to all the die-hards.

either way they hurt themselves.

theyd be better to go with B tho, as it allows for them to have a future.

they are just gonna hafta pick B and have a shitty next 4 years, if they want to save the party.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:52 PM
Response to Original message
8. I almost want them to do this
The more they say the more they try the more harm they do to themselves. Their best bet is to lie low for awhile. If Obama's plans don't work then go on the attack. If they do wait awhile then start spewing a return to free market BS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Yeah, I think you're right. They should lay low and wait to see how Obama's policies
work out before slamming him. The public wants Obama to succeed and they are giving him some room to maneuver. By attacking him now, the loonie wing of the republic party look like the anti-Americans that they are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
9. Oh please.
I'm not scared. Are you?

The GOP is in complete disarray. The RNC head, Michael Steele, is turning himself into a caricature with every idiot thing that comes out of his mouth. Rush Limbaugh, in all his fat, sweaty, drug-addicted and kiddy-diddling glory, is the de facto head of the party. The elected officials are being forced to choose sides--and will suffer either loss of their constituents (if they side with Steele) or push themselves further right (if they side with El Rushie Diablo).

They are fucked in every orifice. I'm not scared of them. Are you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 08:43 PM
Response to Original message
11. Bring it on you Puke fascist scum. WE WILL CRUSH YOU!
I want the GOP destroyed and it's corporate masters lined up and shot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #11
21. Could you get them to open their Swiss bank accounts BEFORE you shoot... so
they can pay what they owe in taxes? Then do what ever you want to them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
12. And Folks Wonder Why Rahm and The Boys Took on Limbaugh
That was the shot across the bow that the Obama administration isn't going roll over and will fight back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Thank you.
I believe you are on to somthing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
13. Again? Shit, I thought we already had 8 years of it!
Time for Rahm to twist some arms and get the centrists and Blue Dogs to toe the fucking line.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. 28.
Actually, the Bush Crime Family's been unleashing Hell for nearly a century. But consistently for the last 28 years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #13
25. I hope Bayh wakes up with a Horse's Head next to him (eom)
Edited on Fri Mar-06-09 08:38 AM by AllentownJake
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:08 PM
Response to Original message
14. More directives from Rush Limabugh, I see. n/t
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:15 PM
Response to Original message
16. Obama will hand them their asses on a silver platter.
Fuck them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:26 PM
Response to Original message
18. BREAK THEM! DESTROY THEM!
Just like the Nazi's, DESTROY them!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:55 PM
Response to Original message
19. Is "Unleashing Hell" the new youth slang for whining?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 05:22 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. It's a line from the movie "Gladiator", which is I guess
how these jerkoff see themselves....

They are a waste of oxygen.

mark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 10:25 PM
Response to Original message
20. Their SOP is not so effective in the Age of the 'Net. . .
There are always too many loose ends, and a reliance on unexamined assumptions..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #20
27. Yep. And I love it. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 07:22 AM
Response to Original message
23. "defeat of Obama’s political program now takes priority over what might be best for the economy"
That says it all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. They are Pure Evil, no doubt about it!
:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 08:37 AM
Response to Original message
24. No shit
What did anyone think these rat fuckers were going to roll over and die once President Obama took office?

They didn't do what was in the best interest of the country when they were in power what makes you think they would start doing it now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 01:04 PM
Response to Original message
28. The gloves are coming off?
:rofl: What gloves? They think they are being kind at this point? :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 09:30 PM
Response to Original message
29. Oh no!
Maybe they'll throw some more "Tea Party" events that attracted 100-200 people!

Just think, in a few thousand years they might actually have had enough to match Obama's inauguration crowd!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 07:12 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC