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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:37 PM
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Let it begin. 2010 is the year to extinguish the GOP. They want to fight. We are ready.
I knew NEVER to trust the Republican party. NEVER!

It's also very apparent that the Republicans in power are going into wanting to be obstructionists to the Obama administration. Well, then... let's play ball.

The same grassroots power that gave Obama his clear victory and landslide that also carried many other races in the Democratic column can do in 2010 what we just did. Our tools are only going to get more powerful. Our organization and our efforts are now fine-tuned and ready for the next battle.

We have been wondering what's next after seriously asskicking the Republicans in 2008.

Well, there is the New Target. It's called Destroying the Republican Party. They are asking for it. We Will Deliver.

We can play Good Cop Bad Cop in the interim. A little Kumbaya chanting for them to finally give it up and join us in changing the course that Bush and his destructive policies have brought. And of course, target EVERY race in 2010 where a Republican is running and GO FOR THE JUGULAR. No exceptions. Nothing except excessive, razor-sharp grassroots efforts to unearth, skewer and dispose of any Republican in our way...

Game on. Seriously.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:39 PM
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1. Don't destroy 'em. You always need someone to play the bad guy...
But yes, it'll be a happy day when the ratio is, say, 75-25.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:47 PM
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3. 2010 is a chance for the same grassroots efforts to absolutely pummel the GOP
It is obvious that people like McCain and Boehmer are being obstructionists ALREADY.

The Democratic grassroots army is perfectly in position to completely destroy the Republican party in 2010. We are seeing the beginning of the battle. The GOP had not interest in cooperating with Democrats.

They are now what I would consider in injured antelopes well within easy reach of making a nice meal for a jaguar. They are dizzy in defeat, diabolical and untrustworthy and their followers are defeated. The gullible who had listened to them in the past are facing terrifying circumstances and the GOP still want to act like nothing is happening.

Boot to the neck. That's what we need to think now. It's time to make the GOP go the way of the Whigs.

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ObamaFan19 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:00 AM
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7. Very True
How are we going to have any fun without them?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:43 PM
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26. Wrong...
...IMO, the old political adage applies: When you see your opponent drowning, throw him an anvil.

In the case of the Republics, the only realistic option is to totally destroy them politically.

Because we have seen what happened when we did not. Remember -- oh, let's see: Rumsfeld, Cheney, Negroponte, the list goes on and on -- holdovers from Richard Nixon's disgraced presidency, all of who survived to see another political heyday, and who have brought us to the brink of ruin, both financialy and morally. They have brought us to a world of endless war, of the haves and the have-nots on a grand scale, of right wing madness in the face of global financial catastrophe.

Piss on 'em, I say. Political destruction is mild considering what they have wrought.

Honestly, I know it just sounds like rhetoric. But I'm totally serious. This ruinous, poisonous strain of ideologues needs to be crushed into a fine dust (metaphorically speaking) and cast to the four winds. No prisoners.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:53 AM
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32. Wait'll we try to do something like Single-payer health care
There will be plenty of bad guys on both sides of the aisle. Bribes will flow like water.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:42 PM
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2. They clearly don't know the score.
They are acting like they have a leg to stand on. Let's knock it out from under them. When the obstruct, let's bulldoze. Their day is over.

I am with you. 2010 will end the pukes, at least as long as I am alive. And, I'm still young.:evilgrin:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:49 PM
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4. I do feel like poking them with a sharp stick while they flail about.
They've got nothing but bellicosity and bullshit. They also have the legacy of the last eight years wrapped around their necks tightly. If they want to go there, game on. Oh yeah.

:hi:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:05 PM
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5. Hehehe!
That is funny, AK!

:hi:


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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:24 AM
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13. Here Limbaugh take a few Oxy contin, try on this necklace,
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 03:27 AM by undergroundpanther
Let me tie that loose end up here, for you..oh geez,let me get that chair out of your way.(kick).Uh what ya say, rush? You are mumbling,oh quit kicking the air like a baby. You are really losing it! Your fat head is all purple.I guess you'll be hanging around here for awhile. :evilgrin:

Buh Bye Rush you foolish steaming pile of purple headed shit.....And remember..Life goes on ..without you.....No one took a chance with you cause you smell so bad,Cause Youuu ain't nobody,..And Life goes on without you!! Shuts the door,turns off the light.

Hehehe.. Fantasy it does a frustrated kitty good.
:toast:
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:36 PM
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6. I sure hope we can clobber them as bad as we did during the great depression
Ever check the composition of the house and senate right before and after the great depression? A great big republican majority crumbled into such a feeble minority over several cycles that it was the most imbalanced make up of congress since the civil war (when most of the democrats, then a party of mostly southerners, succeeded from the union).

In 1930 democrats made huge gains in the house and senate, gaining over 50 house seats, and I think at least 10 senate seats, but still not capturing a majority of the seats in either house.

In 1932 when FDR was first elected democrats broke the record in how many seats they gained in both houses, earning almost 100 new house seats, and winning almost all of the senates up for grabs that year (I think the republicans got like 4 or 5 out of 33 of them).

At one point the republicans were down to less then 20 seats in the senate during the depression.

Sigh, one can only hope and dream that we could achieve victories like that again.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:32 AM
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10. And in 1938
The Republicans made enough gains in the congress to thwart quite a bit of FDR's legislation. The lesson is: The voting public is exceptionally fickle. If they feel we are moving too fast or choosing a path too radical, or don't see immediate positive changes in their personal circumstances they will bounce us out on our asses. Statistically speaking, we are nowhere near the dire straits seen during the great depression or even during the recession of the late 70's. If things get progressively worse, they won't be blaming the Republicans they will be blaming whoever controls congress. We sure as hell can't depend on the media to educate the voting population on the causes of this downturn.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:03 AM
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8. and we already know what their slogans will be
since they did it in the senate run off here in Ga. after Obama won.

"We need balance in the senate" "we need conservatives to counter obama's liberal agenda" "It's not good for one party to have so much power"

We're well on our way if we make the point that obstructionism isn't helpful and why.

I'm sure people will be taking notes of the damage the pukes are doing right now in holding up the stimulus package.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:20 AM
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9. Not gonna happen
We are too busy farting in each others faces to work on anything so ambitious. I would hold this message till 2024. By the time we are finishing up Jeb's second term, perhaps we will have grown more of a clue.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:08 AM
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11. Our problems go far beyond the Republican party. Though the recent history of that party,
such as its alliance with hate-radio and war-mongering, does suggest that the party is a problem, such a development might more profitably be viewed as an indication of a structural crisis

The crisis involves the growth of world population, the exhaustion of natural resources, and the use of military force to ensure that remaining resources are unequally allocated

As this crisis develops, various subgroups of the world population attempt to understand the root of the crisis and attempt to provide solutions -- but what constitutes an understanding or what is regarded as an acceptable solution is always conditioned by local traditions and history and also by everyone's natural desire to justify themselves

The Republicans chose several decades ago to become the voice for elites who could profit from "free markets" -- "freeness" being determined by absence of constraints upon the economic elite -- but (in fact) nothing prevents the Democrats from playing such a structural role

The real political challenge is not to defeat the Republicans but to educate and organize enough people to respond to the developing crisis


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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:12 AM
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12. I'd love to see the GOP shit heads
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 03:13 AM by undergroundpanther
Kill themselves,because they will always fail,they are a bunch of losers,and they have no heart or soul.Their lies will not protect them and the mask the wear will be torn away.
I for one would be happy to see the toxic personality types protecting their own hegemonies and evil.Psychopathy,narcissism and authoritarianism are the real twisted 'engines' behind the actions and beliefs of the right and GOP. I want the right wing to crumble as they lose control, fail and die off by their own overreach, childish domination fantasies,greed,hypocritical perversions ,failed lives catch up to them and their arrogant stupidity do them in.They are dinosaurs.So how come they are still around? Does nature have a use for psychopathy? I know I have no desire for psychopathy to exist.
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IGotAName Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:27 AM
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14. If they're obstructing- agreed.
Obstruction at this point is totally unacceptable.

It's time to get done what needs to be done.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:04 AM
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15. 2010 will make the 2006 and 2008 elections look like ties.
I picture a massive, cleansing de-republicanization of the country, a process that we have only just started in the last two elections. Revulsion for republicans is sweeping the nation. The diehard dregs are sounding even more pathetic and out of step than usual. (Sarah 2012!)

By the time this realignment is over, the republican "party" will consist of a dozen old, uneducated white men in a church in Alabama listening to Rush while praying for all liberals to die. It's almost sad.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:12 PM
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16. Keep a very close eye on the governors' races
That's where a lot of the GOP attention is already focused for 2010. The Republican Governors Association is pulling in heavy hitters like Haley Barbour, and they're getting their strategies lined up.

There weren't a lot of governorship races in 2008, but more than 2/3 of the states will be having contests in 2010. Wikipedia has a pretty good rundown -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_gubernatorial_elections,_2010. In the map below, blue and red are states with races in 2010, blue marks current Democratic governors and red marks current Republican governors, and the lighter colors are where governors are retiring or term-limited.



And here's a Republican site, hopefully called "Save the GOP," with some reasonably convincing analysis of where they see their own opportunities and weaknesses -- http://www.savethegop.com/2008/11/10/2010-governor-races/. The normally Republican states of Kansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Wyoming -- in all of which Democratic governors are retiring -- seem like the GOP's best bets. California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Minnesota, Nevada, and Rhode Island are all possible Democratic pickups.

That pretty much leaves the GOP playing defense everywhere but in its core states -- which suggests they're already preparing to get down and dirty. I think we're already seeing hints of that in the attempt to sabotage Obama's economic plans and hope they fail.

On a somewhat higher level, though, they're likely to publicize any suggestions of big-state Democratic corruption and cronyism, work to tie Democrats candidates in other states to some of the more troubled northern Democratic governors, and promote the idea that GOP moderates can enact Obama's recovery more cleanly and efficiently.

Ultimately, almost everything in 2010 may simply come down to a matter of where the economy stands at that time. But to the extent that these opening moves are alread on the chessboard, they have to be noted and countered.

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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:22 PM
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22. The Michigan governors race is my main concern
The GOP will continue to blame Gov. Granholm for Michigan's poor economy and try to defeat the likely Democrat candidate, Lt. Gov. Cherry, because of his connection to her. I don't think this strategy is as good as the GOP thinks it will be. They tried to blame Granholm for the "single-state recession" in 2006 and she won by 14%. I think the GOP wanted to tie Obama to Granholm as a way to swing Michigan for the GOP but since McCain gave up on MI so early, there wasn't much of a Republican campaign here. The GOP could definitely win Michigan's governorship but I think it leans Democratic as of now.

The save the GOP site is funny. They think Mike Cox is the strongest Republican to run for Governor in Michigan. Cox isn't charismatic or well-spoken and admitted to having an affair (while, at the same time, protecting the sanctity of marriage from the gays). If that's the best the GOP can do then I feel a little better about the election.

I agree that a lot will depend on the economy. If the economy improves, Obama and the Democrats will look good. This would benefit many Democrats across the country and result in more losses for the GOP. The Republican party is viewed poorly across the nation but their best chance to gain power is at the state level so we to focus on all races.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:13 PM
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17. What about some funding (and working) in states like
Tennessee and Georgia and Oklahoma and Texas?

Tennessee was a Clinton state not too very long ago and has a Dem governor.

However, for the life of me, I cannot think of a Democrat who can run against Corker in 2010 or who can run for governor that same year. There's simply no one who is known well enough statewide. And, I believe the reason for that is two-fold: lack of funding to get the word out about state Democrats and right-wing radio.

Outside of Memphis, there is no liberal talk - zilch, nada (although I did hear of a very short-range start up in someplace north of Knoxville - however, I believe it's limited to the city of its origin).

I want to rid my state of these cretins. They just took over the state house and senate, too, and what do you think their agenda looks like? Helping the state's unemployed? Nope. Growing interest in the state to bring in companies to put people to work at good wages? Nope. They want to work on making abortions in Tennessee illegal should the Supremes ever overturn Roe v. Wade and relegate gay Tennesseans to the dustbin of society.

Sigh.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:08 PM
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18. The Repigs proved they are obstructionists who favor the uber-rich and the banks
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 07:08 PM by zulchzulu
With today's vote, they proved we need to simply stomp with heavy, spiked boots on all of their necks in 2010 and put our country out the misery of suffering through the bloviations of the theocratic asshats who are in control of the Republican party.

Boot. On. Neck.

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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:28 PM
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19. I say we gerrymander them out of existence.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:42 PM
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20. we are ready, they should never underestimate the American people.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:51 PM
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21. If we destroy the GOP, then what happens to our two party system?
Are you advocating a one party form of government, or do you think that another party might rise up to take the place of the GOP just like the GOP took the place of the Whig Party?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:26 PM
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23. What color tunic do you prefer? Gray, or gray? And the slippers come in eight shades of black!
That's what a one party political system gets us.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:34 PM
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24. I like the idea of a two or three or four or five party system...
...as long as the other parties eat themselves and are splintered into broken glass shards...

If another party rises to replace the GOP, it would probably be a bunch of redneck theocrats and country club homophobes.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:33 PM
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34. So you prefer a one party dictatorship? n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:34 PM
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35. Why yes! Now I have to turn you into the authorities...
:wow:

Put down the crack pipe.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:42 PM
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25. What happened to the Whigs?
Someone took their place.

If there are no republicans the liberals and the moderates will divorce and we'll have a choice between moderate dems and liberal dems. What the party is called who the hell knows.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 12:22 PM
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33. there's other parties out there
like the Libertarians, Greens, Constitution party (tax hating theocrats but still), etc.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 12:27 AM
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27. The republican party is not going anywhere
And that's a good thing. History has shown repeatedly that any party that gets too powerful quickly becomes even more corrupt. There is some value in opposition, even mindless, ignorant opposition.

They will continue to be a viable party, especially because they know how to play opposition, unlike the democrats. But more than that, the pendulum never stays still. Talk of destroying them is nothing more than a fantasy.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 12:30 AM
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28. kumbaya boehner, kumbaya...
we'll let you eat our lunch, kumbaya...
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:15 AM
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29. oh good
We are finally all getting on the same team.

Thank you Republicans for being obstructionists.

Are we all done being bipartisan and moving to the center?

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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:35 AM
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30. Woohoo! Let's kick some more Republican butt.
Love it.

:kick:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:05 AM
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31. EXACTLY, no messing about the ball is in our court. We can make them dance, if they dance well they>
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 07:06 AM by cooolandrew
MIGHT stay. But sooner or later they will know who's boss.
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