After seeing Kerry on Imus, I'm convinced that he's doing everything he

[Guaranteed]

can to win this election. It's only the media that's holding him back.

Kerry sounded great- in my mind, at least, he was extremely convincing. He hit on SO many things, was so consistent, and really painted Bush in a horrible light. He reminded us of all of Bush's failures, clearly and concisely, and gave us an alternative. I believe, given the chance to be heard in totality, Kerry would win this election.

What this means is that if his campaign isn't effective, it's because of the media. They're not letting him be heard.

And, if it's the media that's holding him back, that means that WE have to do something about it. WE have to organize, WE have to stand up somehow and kick the SHIT out of these corporate whores.

**********************We're going to have to organize a massive boycott of NBC, ABC, FOX and CNN. A real boycott, far reaching, to hit them where it really hurts. And I'm serious about this.***********

What do you think?

[Justice]

1. He was incredible on IMUS

Imus asked him a steady string of questions and Kerry answered everyone. Kerry was excellent.

On edit - yes, Kerry has trouble breaking through the media barrier.


I was happy at how long he was on. Imus had him on for what 25-30 minutes? That is pretty great.

[cthrumatrix]

16. when he gets thru -- it hurts AWOL - hence you have "memo-gate"

[wakfs]

20. This could mean good news for Kerry and the media

A lot of the Washington punditocracy listen to Imus, like it or not. If Kerry can get his message through in that forum, can the rest of the lazy, egotistical, mainstream pundits be far behind in latching on to a new message, that being "Kerry's campaign on upswing!"

We'll see.

[okieinpain]

50. so does this mean that candy crawley will stop doing her

kerry hasn't spoken to the media coundown.

[leftchick]

2. I agree... it is the media's distortion .....

of his campaign that is the problem! I saw him live in NC last week and LOVED him. He was on target, warm, engaging and had no fear of his non-loyalty pledged audience!
I used to be a hard core Wes fan too!

[cthrumatrix]

53. glad to hear that

[Generator]

78. Yes, that's exactly my experience

I used to think, oh John Kerry how dull. That's how he was SOLD to me in the media. I never watched him. Then I started watching him after he won the primaries( because I wanted Dean and I also liked Clark and Edwards) and was impressed and he always impresses more.

[blm]

3. Couldn't agree more. Most of the media acts in concert with BushInc.

and we have to do an endaround it every way possible. In letters to the editor, in phone calls to newsrooms telling them we're seeing too much bias for Bush, and on the streets rallying voters.

[Shuck and Jive]

4. After this morning on IMUS

Why isn't Kerry doing MORE interviews? Take on the toughest and show his ability to handle what anyone throws att him.

It is a way to demonstrate presidential temperament.

[Nordic]

74. he's gonna be on Letterman monday and ... something else ...

I saw he's gonna be on some other show soon. Was it Hardball?

[Kierkegaard]

5. You hit on the real problem with the Kerry campaign

He can't get equal coverage in the media. It's disgusting when you see teasers where Liar gets 30 seconds of video coverage VS a 10 second still photo with the anchor doing a quick unflattering voice over. I see it again and again. If we were being represented equally in the media, this would be a no contest election. Kerry would probably win my the largest landslide in election history.

I've mentioned boycotting a number of times on DU and no one really responded to it. I think it's one of the only effective ways to get their attention. LTTE's don't cost them money. When their advertising support is threatened, they have more incentive to get their act together.

Needless to say, I'm on board any effort to threaten witholding advertising revenue from these shameless jackasses.

[Guaranteed]

He has the message.

Of course moron Imus wasn't going to respond well to it, but he will win if he can just get it out.

We have to force these assholes to do it, somehow.

[lanparty]

76. Especially during hurricane season ...

... too many pictures of Bush handing out water.

It seems the only time Bush does well is when disaster strikes.

[unfrigginreal]

6. He's not doing everything

He needs to go on more programs. There isn't a program out there that would refuse an interview with him. The media may be at fault for not reporting his positions, but Kerry should make himself more available if he can stay as clear and concise as he did this morning on Imus.

[spooky3]

8. but give Imus credit--he asked fair questions AND gave him time to talk

Can you imagine most of the pseudo journalists doing that? Larry King is about the only one that would come close to offering a similar forum.

[Guaranteed]

9. It's true, Imus was very fair during the interview...

I'm just pissed at his stupid trash-talking before and afterward. But, that's just Imus.

[unfrigginreal]

14. I agree, but Kerry would be able to go on any program that he wants

He should consider Larry King as you suggest and Oprah as another poster suggested.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

59. Imus was very professional in his actions. Can you see....

Matt Laurer/Anthrax Curry/Katie Curic doing an interview with Kerry?

You'd swear that you were watching Fox.

:eyes:

[Guaranteed]

10. I mean as far as his positions are concerned.

You're right, he just needs to get his message out there.

[jumpstart33]

11. How about Oprah?

Would the billionaire-car-giveaway diva even allow him on her show?
No, only Arnie. Only Republicans, only money.

[Guaranteed]

12. I think Oprah would be a GREAT gig for him. nt

[mbali]

39. Be careful . . .

If she has Kerry on, she'll also likely have Bush on and he does well in these settings. Remember that she had both Gore and Bush on in 2000 and Bush's appearance was credited with doing much to soften his image.

[Southsideirish]

70. True. I was confident he would blow it but he did very well.

He has the uncanny knack of knowing just how to portray himself in certain situations in order to appear to be sympathetic, kindly, humble - when we know he is none of those things.

He's quite an actor, when you think about it - maybe he should have gone into movies.

[stevedeshazer]

73. How soon we forget

[buycitgo]

90. that was one of the VERY KEY moments of the campaign

Gore was ahead by several points, until he came on with Oprah

he got an immediage bounce from that, and the media just SLOBBERED over what a great guy he was, even moreso than they did before

Gore was getting his only positive media of the campaign, in that brief interregnum, which the Oprah performance put a stop to

[Jim Sagle]

22. Baloney. She had Clinton as a guest a few months back.

[tjdee]

35. AND Michael Moore. AND Al Gore. AND friggin Kennedys.

The Oprah topic is so irritating.

To my memory she's had on two Republicans--one of whom she had to have on because she opened the SEASON with the opposing Democrat, and the other was a movie star whose wife is one of her closest personal friends. Not to mention, it's not a political show.

She has also done shows on Iraq, sends underpriveliged kids to Morehouse every year, started at least one school in Africa, etc.

But yeah. Two Republicans, who is she, Ann Coulter??

:eyes:

[NoBorders]

62. Maybe he will still do so

I would suggest that you would want to hold off until that last few weeks of the campaign to send the candidate out to the high profile shows. And after, hopefully, the hurricanse news has subsided.

[spooky3]

7. He did a great job, but the boys are now whining that he didn't

make it uglier (which helps their ratings).

[George W. Dunce]

13. Typical

Edwards is missing,is what we heard all week.Kerry this morning says Edwards had eight to ten thousand people in Oregon yesterday.Media distortion,sickening.

[mbali]

40. He means that Edwards hasn't been on HIS show in the last 2 weeks

and therefore, he cannot possibly be doing anything relevant.

[Paradise]

15. Agree with everything you've said!

There's strength in numbers! Can DU act as a force-in-unison,
a n d, if that is possible, who, here, will lead it, when, and how?

[Guaranteed]

17. Yes...we need to talk to Skinner about this.

It has to be organized. The point is to get the media to just give Kerry more airtime, that's it. It's really not too much to ask of them.

[Paradise]

32. Please, BGL, talk to Skinner about it!

We MUST organize and STAY-ON-POINT, your point, "give Kerry more airtime"!

[Guaranteed]

92. Well, I ran it past Skinner in the

ATA forum, and he doesn't seem very enthusiastic about it.

[Paradise]

94. You tried, and thanks. :) n/t

[sandnsea]

47. Truth Squad

Floated this a few days ago. One page we compile together, short snippets of news and quotes. Once or twice a week. Then we all just go and stand in front of our local newspaper or television stations and hand them out. All over the country. The DU Truth Squad. We've got to get around this media somehow.

[Paradise]

51. Will we do it?

Although working full-time, and full-time family responsibility, this is something I can participate in.

Also wanting to adopt my block, door to door,
speaking and leaving something, like *your suggestion.
We can build success, one block at a time, as well!

*the something i could leave.

[Ladyhawk]

80. Please, this needs to be organized. This needs a LEADER!

I am no leader. At least not in my current mind-set / situation.

But I will follow a good leader and do my part.

Dem_Strategist said we need to focus on the media. In my gut, I know the media is responsible for so much right-wing propaganda. The media will bear a lot of the responsibility if * wins! And I'm so damn pissed!

Perhaps we need a separate forum AND a leader. Someone most people trust needs to step forward and lead this thing.

I think a separate forum would be a positive first step.

[a new day]

18. Did you read the GQ interview with Kerry?

I thought he came across very well in it. He truly is a guy I'd like to have a beer with.

Most of the commentary I've seen is dismissive.

Am I blinded because of my support for Kerry the candidate to the shortcomings of the GQ article, or is it another example of the barrier to good things about Kerry getting attention?

[Guaranteed]

19. People really have to hear the guy out.

He's very convincing if people would just listen to him.

We need to get the media to cover him.

[a new day]

21. Howard Stern, Al Franken, Bill Maher

I would think they'd all have him on.

[MsTryska]

33. I agree

so many people whine that he's cold or awkward or stiff or blah blah blah.


everytime i've seen him actually get to speak (okay, it's been clips from stump speeches, the daily show and now Imus - sucks i can count them on one hand) he has been warm, witty, engaging and on top of his shit.



so he definitely needs to start doing interviews with anybody and everybody. and calling press conferences. they don't want to give him exposure? fucking take it from them.



also - HBO is gonna have that chick who was with bush's press junta last election covering Kerry this election. The teasers I saw already looked good. It might only be HBO viewers, but at least some of them will get to see the real John as well.

[flpoljunkie]

26. Same thing Walter Shapiro, USA Today said, re JK in book "One Car Caravan"

Shapiro picked John Kerry as the candidate he traveled with that he would most like to have a beer with.

[LittleClarkie]

91. Is GQ the article where he talks Harleys

Saying he got one because he couldn't handle the imported "crotch rockets" anymore? He said Theresa would hate it, but then she hates everything with two wheels and a motor in between.

Yeah, I though that was a good one too.

How could it have shortcomings. It was a "behind the candidate" piece, strictly human interest.

[Meshuga]

23. Amen! People blame the Kerry campaign for not fighting back...

People blame the Kerry campaign for not fighting back or attacking Bush. Kerry's message is not being heard because of the media. The media is guilty of not only distorting Kerry's message but not being fair to his record by letting every lie about Kerry pass unchecked.

How can we win an election when the media supports Bush? People turn to cable news to see what is going on and so far we see the supposedly "great", "decisive", "tough" leader whose popularity is growing at an enormous pace when we hear anything about Bush (which is all BS) and when you see anything about Kerry he is the silent, inept, anti-veteran, flip-flopper with not message who is not tough enough to defend himself from Bush's attack and who is losing ground in the election. It's all a bunch of crap!

The media spent the entire month of August replaying the Swifties commercial and they refused to check the facts when Republicans lied when attacking Kerry at the RNC.

The media is to blame when people complain that we only talk about vietnam and that the issues are not being addressed. By doing that the media is only helping Bush who is terrified to defend his own record as president.

The TV media sucks and if Kerry doesn't come out as a winner in November I will cancel my cable subscription until the cable companies offer a lineup without CNN, FOX and MSNBC.

[mbali]

41. And when Kerry DOES fight back, they blame him for elevating the story

[beaconess]

45. Back in April, Imus asked Edwards WHY Kerry was bothering to dignify

the attacks on his service, insisting that Kerry was only making it a bigger story by responding to it. I can't find a full transcript containing Imus' question, but Edwards' answer was quoted in the Hotline:

"Here you got the vice president of the United States who got like 29 deferments of something, who just kept getting going off and off. ... And then you've got the president of the United States who can't explain some of his time in the National Guard and they're attacking John Kerry about his medals. I mean, you have got to be kidding... If I were John Kerry and had gone to Vietnam voluntarily ... and they're attacking you, I would take that personally."

Imus in the Morning, April 28, 2004

So, where does Imus - the guy who belittled Kerry for responding at all - get off now blasting Kerry for not fighting back hard enough?

(if anyone can find Imus' question to Edwards about this, that would be great!)

[Leilani]

24. C-Span Washington Journal just announced

they will play some clips from the Imus Interview this AM.

I missed Imus, so I will listen to Kerry on C-Span.

[flpoljunkie]

25. Thanks for this info.

[jean]

28. Kerry's appearance on Imus provides tons of audio clips for all

in the audio culture to use. His interview was long and wide-ranging - all media outlets now have a mother lode of essential Kerry!

I hope radio listeners and non-cable tv viewers get a chance to hear this stuff.

[maine_raptor]

27. I'm AGAINST a boycott and here's why.

First from the posts above, if I'm reading them right, you folks want to boycott the CHANNELS (CNN,FOX,etc)....wrong tactic.

Hit'em were it hurts.....the sponsors of the shows.

Second, from a strategic sense a boycott of the CHANNELS (ie, not watching)......VERY bad, very bad ju ju, folks.

We're in a WAR,and taking your eyes off what the enemy is doing and saying, is not only stupid, but can also get you killed.

Nope,

Better would be to create a list of sponsors, by show/host, a separate media blaster for each (dupe Sponsor email addys allowed), and then when someone, say a Matt Larder, does something that is pro-Bush, anti-Kerry, nail them.

In addition, such a setup could also reward our friends, what few there are, in the media, when they do good.

Much more useful and effective all around, any thoughts?

[Kierkegaard]

31. Not at all.

The boycott I'm speaking of in the above post is clearly aimed at ADVERTISERS. Like I said, LTTE's are fine, but they can be ignored as long as the money keeps rolling in, but if you express to the advertisers that their ads are not going to be seen because we are NOT going to watch these biased news media channels anymore, they will be more inclined to listen!

[maine_raptor]

34. And I agree that it's the Sponsor that need to be hit

And how to do that I mentioned above.

The email addys would be for the customer relations of a particular sponsor, linked by show/host.

Flood their in-box with complaints, and PRESSURE would be exerted.

[LiberalEsto]

52. Absolutely!

Boycott the corpos that sponsor the shows. Money talks.

[Guaranteed]

75. You have to hurt their ratings. nt

[Libby2]

29. There is nothing wrong with the dem candidates

In fact, they are pretty impressive men.
That's what scares the neo-cons.
And I'm damned sick of the press putting them down.
The press isn't fit to shine Kerry's shoes.

[Generator]

79. Cheers!

[phish420]

30. I missed it :-(

[tjdee]

36. Doesn't Kerry have television?

The "it's the media's fault" thing is wearing thin with me.

Aren't ANY Democrats familiar with the MEDIA?? Haven't they ever watched television before?

You mean to tell me they never in their wildest imaginations thought Kerry would be ignored/maligned....like EVERY OTHER DEMOCRAT, most obviously Gore in 2000?

Bullshit.
Bullshit, I say.

If what they're doing isn't working, change it. Fire people. Hire Dean people. Even hire some Republicans for god's sake!

I think Kerry is a very smart man, so I hope he has something up his sleeve. Because if this is the best they can do with the media, it's going to be very rough going.

Also--Imus is pissed off with Bush. Whenever I hear him he's slagging him on Iraq. Secretly, I think he's open to voting for Kerry.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

37. Yes he is. And we will have no problem fighting for him 1000%

When you know your leader's heart is in it, then it's easy to fall in line behind him.
Thanks BGL!

[MoonRiver]

38. Count me in!

I don't watch them anymore, or hardly ever, but if there's something more I can do I'm all for it. These whores are destroying our country. Imo, they are the most serious threat to democracy in existence.

[mimitabby]

42. i think it's happening

it might not be happening fast enough, but people like me have lost faith in the media in the last 4 years, looking for answers.. I turned to the internet.
I have a moderate coworker who says at least once a week "I wish there was a truth channel! I would watch that station full time!"

sad.. but the fact is MANY have lost faith in the media, and one by one, we are NOT turning the tv on.

[cthrumatrix]

71. people can see thru the bullshit media

[hansolsen]

43. Listen up DUers. Kerry was on 25 minutes and made no news. Argh!

He said nothing new, and did nothing that commanded the headlines for the day. He did nothing to grab hold of the media aganda. He did nothing to change the dynamic of the race. He did nothing but coast. Kerry is running a risk free campaign, hoping to be the last man standing if Bush stumbles or the war in iraq really turns south.

He way well win, but it is painful to watch. And as a citizen who opposed this war from day one, and believes George Bush belongs in jail, not in the Oval Offfice, I still don't have a candidate in the race. No one is speaking for me.

Kerry comes close, he sneaks up to the line, but never crosses the line. I hate this campaign. It is literally painful to endure. I will vote for Kerry anyway, but there has got to be a better way.

[Jim Sagle]

46. Chickenshit bullshit. Kerry RAWWWWWWWWWKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

[lancdem]

49. I'm not disagreeing with your general analysis

but I don't think the point of going on Imus is to change the dynamic of the race.

[Name removed]

54. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ClassWarrior]

56. How predictable. A respected DUer - BGL - posts a positive thread...

...and someone with a low post count pees all over it.

Ho-hum.

[ClassWarrior]

58. And then the pee-er disappears.

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

[hansolsen]

84. Sorry I missed your reply. And I'll try to be more respectful of my

superior DU members with higher post numbers in the future. I was too quick to assume that a "new" guy could offer "constructive criticism" around here without getting flamed.

I have offered many ideas in this forum of ways to take the initiative on war and terrorism issues. I continue to believe Kerry needs to do more to set the terms of the debate. I will continue to try to advance that line of thinking without "peeing" on Kerry's parade.

[NoBorders]

64. I disagree

I heard plenty on Kerry on several radio stations on my way to work on his comments bashing bush on job losses today.

[hansolsen]

85. I'm specificlly refering to Kerry's position on the war in Iraq. Note

that Imus and the boys complained after Kerry went off the air that they still didn't know what he was saying about Iraq. That resonates with me. All I am trying to say to the campaign, is do not ignore that reaction. That is a common reaction.

[NoBorders]

87. I see your point

and I sometimes feel the same way. He's certainly been criticized for being too timid and using 'senate speak' which doesn't connect with your average citizen. My guess is that the outrage you and I feel about Bushco is not shared by more conservative swing-voters, who he is trying to win over, so he keeps his rhetoric in check.

However, I do think he needs to do better at demonstrating passion, or those same swing voters or weak bush* voters will find that they don't have a compelling alternative.

[hansolsen]

88. Bush /Rove's campaign is all about energizing the base. Maybe they

know something Kerry / Cahill don't know? It would be the first time the Dems have been out manuevered on the political front.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

68. Oh yeah. Here's a good example of Kerry not crossing the line.

WHAT line? Explain what's "painful" about Kerry making statements like this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20040915/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc

"This president has created more excuses than jobs," Kerry said in a speech to the Detroit Economic Club.

Trailing in national polls seven weeks before the Nov. 2 election and heeding advisers who have urged him to be more forceful, Kerry said he was "taking the gloves off" in his presidential campaign battle with Bush. He rejected the White House's "perfect storm" explanation that recession, war and the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks caused tepid economic performance in the United States.

"The president wants you to believe that this record is the record of the victim of circumstances, the result of bad luck, not bad decisions," Kerry said in his speech. "Well, Mr. President, when it comes to your record, we agree -- you own it."

"His is the excuse presidency -- never wrong, never responsible, never to blame ... no, it's not our fault; no, there's nothing wrong; no, we can't do better; no, we haven't made a single mistake," Kerry said.

[hansolsen]

86. Kerry is much better on the economy and domestic issues than he is

on the war in Iraq. I was specifically lamenting his war stance. I happen to believe the war in Iraq is the defining issue in Shrub's first term, that war is a national disgrace and a national disaster, and if the Kerry campaign had been successful in making this election a referendum on Shrub's war record, this election would not even be close.

Instead Kerry has tried to have it both ways on the war, defend his indefensible vote for IWR, take credit for getting rid of Saddam, and curry favor with supports of Likud policies in the middle east, all the while criticizing Bush for not running the war well. That is about 10% as effective as an outright attack on the war.

Kerry should make Bush's character the main issue of this election, with the war exhibit A.

Bush lied to get us in the war.
Bush approved torture.
Bush sends soldiers to their death in an unwinnable war.

I could go on. Harsh criticsm of Bush on domestic issues is not enough, IMO. That is all I'm saying.

[Cha]

44. I think, Thank you for your post,

BullGoose! I agree, and I didn't even hear Kerry. BUT, I heard Kerry on Tom Joyner the other week and I felt the same way!

Kerry's gonna win this thing so somehow some way the message is going to get out!

[sonicx]

48. No, he is doing some things wrong

1) The notion that bush 'is making us safer' needs to be attacked more. He needs to talk more about the shoddy homeland security funding; unsecure chemical plants, airports, and cargo area; the regrouping of Al quada in afganistan, etc. The attacks on bush for the AWB and North Korea are good, but he can go further.

2) He needs to get himself on TV more. Oprah, Letterman, any high profile talk show he can get on. Daily Show was a good start, but it's cable. He needs to go national. :) He can wack the notion that he's 'too serious' and tell jokes and be personable. Gain 'likability points,' the ones he lost after the swiftliar.

[AuntPatsy]

57. Youve got to be kidding? He IS talking about things!

It is NOT and I repeat NOT his fault that the media ignores him and as such they are ingnoring more than HALF of all Americans, I believe a strike against the sponsers of such shows in highly in order...

IM gain, someone get a list of who sponsers these rw propaganda windmill houses....and post them on here over and over again and in every aveune that forums exist on the entire networking system..

[sonicx]

83. the homeland security issue is hugely understated

the airport/cargo/chemicalplants thing i was talking about.

This is a HUGE area for Kerry to hit. It sharply cuts at the
arguement that 'we are safer.'

[Ravy]

67. Believe it or not, it is still EARLY in the election, folks....

Kerry has PLENTY of time. We haven't even had the debates yet, and that is when many START forming their opinion.

Yes, we read DU. We read Internet news sites. We know all of the issues. Many of us have paid attention and KNOW Kerry is talking about these things, and the media just isn't reporting them.

I am confident the media will start reporting Kerry's message when it matters most. Any reporting now will be lost in the mud with the Swift-boat liars, Rather defenses, Kitty Kelly, etc. People are not READY to listen to the issues. The people will begin to listen, and the media will begin to report on the messages closer to the election, and that is what will swing them.

I would rather be ahead by 2 percent on Election day than 35 percent today. The middle (independents, undecideds) are very fluid now as evidenced by the polls. They sway for the last good thing they hear. I hope ours is the last good message they hear before election day. Today is too soon for that last good message.

[ClassWarrior]

55. AGREED.

The Kerry Campaign's not the enemy... Bushco and the media are.

[democrat_patriot]

60. Can Kerry do Nightline, 20/20 etc interviews? W/ Teresa?

Get in him into the homes?

I think his problem is no media coverage = nobody 'knows' him. He's not a comfortable presence...

[jackstraw45]

61. Problem is...

they'd edit it so it would be 20% Kerry speaking...80% RNC propaganda.

They'd edit and edit and edit and it would be filled with RNC talking points.

The Corporate Media MUST be busted up and "NEWS" removed from the other industries with political agendas.

[rndmprsn]

63. clip on WashPost

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/msnbc/ms091504-1v.htm

about a 30-40 sec clip.

[Name removed]

65. Deleted message

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[Oddman]

66. Why doesn't Kerry do more press conferences?

He's so much better speaking off the cuff than he is with a prepared speech - just the opposite of bush - he can think on his feet!


A Pathetic Excuse for a pResident

[Guaranteed]

93. I totally agree...I think news conferences would be a big strength

for Kerry.

[nolabels]

69. I already do

I only watch good football games an ABC, But could give that up for a couple months also if the price is right



http://irregulartimes.com/santibushmisc.html

[RobinA]

72. I Think Kerry Is Doing Fine

The problem is the monolith he is up against. I don't think Jesus (that girly-man) could beat Bush at this point. There's nothing wrong with Kerry. I can't even blame the media anymore. The info is out there for whoever choses to look at it.

[Generator]

77. Thank you thankyou thank you!!!!!!!!!!

This is what I hear and see. A man doing his absolute best and getting ripped by our pathetic excuses for news sources. (and then I get to see those same opinions parroted back on DU which makes me doubly angry, as if no one actually ever took the time to see or actually listen to Kerry without a media filter)

I get so angry that I fantasize taking over the CNN headquarters and forcing them to tell the fucking truth.


A boycott is exactly what we need. Something has to change.

[Democat]

81. We cannot use the media as an excuse - we nominated Kerry to win!

Democrats have yet to figure out the media puzzle, and they've had quite a while now. We don't nominiate candidates so they can blame the media when they don't do well.

We all know the media is biased, but there are ways to deal with the media that make them less biased. In many cases, for example the Swift Liars mess, Kerry did not do what needed to be done to deal with that issue in the media.

Even with the Bush docs, our side is being outplayed in the media. I'm not just talking about the media bias, but how we handle the media, what information we provide to them, how fast we respond, etc.

Media bias is no excuse anymore. We accept that it is biased, so the people we choose to represent us must fight knowing that the bias is there.

Where the hell is the Gore TV Network - this would have been a great year to launch that.

[yardwork]

82. I think Kerry is great

He's an excellent campaigner and he'll be a great president.

[KittyWampus]

89. BullGooseLoony, Thank You For This Thread

you really rock!

And my personal suggestion is that we target CNN headquaters.

A Million Voter March.

Why CNN, because a lot of GOP shit oozes out of Georgia for one thing.

And they jumped the shark by putting up that photoshopped pix of Kerry in the safe suit.

That was totally beyond anything a News Organization has any RIGHT to do.