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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:49 AM
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If Caroline wants to be a Senator
She can carpet bag it down I-95 or I-78 to PA anytime.

We'd gladly take her.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:56 AM
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1. PA voters (at least the ones in your neck of the woods) aren't real keen of carpetbagging
Remember Joe Driscoll?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:14 PM
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11. Last time I checked
Driscoll does not = Kennedy.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:32 PM
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12. No, but he specificlly moved to the Lehigh Valley for the purpose of running for office
He had great resume and was a competent campaigner. But he never gained much traction in the Lehigh Valley due to the carpetbagger issue.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:45 PM
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13. He did better than Sam
and she's a local.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 01:53 PM
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14. Driscoll only got 39%, Bennett got 41%
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/PA/

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapHPA/H/15

Bennett's problem was that she was kind of a flake and people were suspicious of the way she ran that charity.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:01 PM
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15. He did better than Sam
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 02:01 PM by AllentownJake
look at the party id numbers that year. We turned the county vastly blue in 2008 and Bennet essentially got the same numbers as Driscol. Sam also had twice the money Driscol did.

Trust me I'm very familiar with the inner workings of the Bennet campaign and how it has damned us to having Charlie for at least 2 more cycles.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:36 PM
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20. They both got trounced for different reasons
Driscol would had at least made it a race if he hadn't moved to the LV after he announced that he was running. Mina Baker Knoll also had problems with carpetbagger issues when she moved back to PA to run for State Treasurer.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:37 PM
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21. Read my post on the trouble we have
Neither were the candidates to take on good ol' Charlie.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:08 PM
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16. BTW
Pat Toomey :-)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:31 PM
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18. Toomey had lived in the LV for several years (and even owned serveral businesses there) before
he ran for office.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:34 PM
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19. yes but he wasn't a native
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 02:37 PM by AllentownJake
The problem in the Valley is Charlie Dent is extremely popular and percieved as a nice good guy. The people in the city vote straight democratic while the suburbanites split their vote between democratic state and national candidates and vote for Charlie. He runs some of the dirtiest congressional campaigns with attack ads of any congressional candidate in PA.

Until we have a candidate who has the money to call out Charlie for not being such a nice guy while looking like the nice guy/girl themselves he's almost impossible to beat because the people in the suburbs love him. No matter where the candidate is from.

The candidates who could do this want to stay in the the state house or want to be Govenor.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:40 PM
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22. Morganelli would be a formidable candidate
But he was obsessed with becoming AG, and I have heard that he may be running for a judgeship.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:45 PM
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23. Mann or Cunningham
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 02:49 PM by AllentownJake
would also give Charlie a hard time. Mann because she's very dynamic and young and Cunningham because he has been involved in both Northampton and Lehigh County politics.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:59 AM
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2. Yeah, but then she might have to actually run. You know, with a campaign and voters
and all that icky plebeian stuff.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:01 PM
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3. Or she could run a campaign and get more votes than her opponent***
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:12 PM
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4. Why not give her an Ambassadorship?
Would be more her forte anyway. I just don't see her in the rough and tumble of politics.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:29 PM
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5. Or she can wait for MA seat to be open.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ted retired this year.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:35 PM
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6. She part-owns a house in Massachussets...The Kennedy Compund in Hyannis
so theiretically she can get appointed by Deval Patrick...but I doubt that she really wants to be in a rough and tumble campaign...she will probably do well as Ambassador to Britain, France or Germany.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:41 PM
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7. Or Secretary of Education
Hasn't she been an activist for education her entire adult life (besides being an attorney).
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:47 PM
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10. nope.. first of all though she does own a house in MA
it's not in Hyannis. She sold her house there. Secondly, owning a vacation house does not make one a resident of the state.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:45 PM
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9. I'd like for her to take his seat. She would win re-election there.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:41 PM
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8. No, thank you.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:10 PM
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17. Or she can run for the seat in 2010... actually, I wouldn't mind seeing
her serve in the Senate, regardless of the state she would hold. I hope she comes back to wanting to serve in such an office at some point, and I'm sad she withdrew.
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