We've been Katherine-Harrised in Florida: Nader on ballot because of STORM

[DeepModem Mom]

Florida OK's Nader's Name on Election Ballot

MIAMI (Reuters) - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name can appear on Florida ballots for the election, despite a court order to the contrary, Florida's elections chief told officials on Monday in a move that could help President Bush in the key swing state.

The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it.

In a memo to Florida's 67 county supervisors of elections, Division of Elections director Dawn Roberts said the uncertainty of Hurricane Ivan, which could hit parts of the state by week's end, forced her to act.

Florida Circuit Court Judge Kevin Davey issued a temporary injunction last week preventing the state from putting Nader on the 2004 ballot, siding with a Democratic challenge that the Reform Party did not qualify as a national party under state law.

A hearing on a permanent injunction is scheduled for Wednesday. But Roberts said Hurricane Ivan, which is headed for Florida's Gulf coast, had raised "a substantial question as to when such a hearing" will be held....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040913/pl_nm/campaign_florida_dc&cid=615&ncid=2043

[MidwestTransplant]

1. You must be F'ing kidding me.

[cthrumatrix]

9. don't give the thiefs ONE INCH

[cheshire]

2. That is the lamest crap I've heard yet.

[Pirate Smile]

3. Whatttt?

:wtf:

[faithnotgreed]

4. yeah. just like we should expect more violence in iraq because their

elections are coming up

yeah right. when are those elections - january? the network of people who will say anything, even though it doesnt make sense, is just so wide

people who are going to vote nader this time i have no intention of voting kerry anyway. though since he is funded by republicans, maybe some of them will vote for nader instead of bush.
even they can see that nader makes more sense than bush

[demnan]

5. I think this was inevitable

Also, you know I hate what Nader did, but I have to admit that it is up to Kerry to run a good campaign and to fight like hell if it looks like the election is stolen again.

[Zookeeper]

24. I had a feeling the hurricanes would be used as an excuse

for some sort of Bushwah that would benefit Boy George.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. It's not even going to hit Florida

New Orleans better watch out though.

[cthrumatrix]

7. NO f'ing way --- fight this ALL the way

there's plenty of courts to hear the case

[ClintonTyree]

8. No way...................

this will hold up in a court of law. Another nice try by the Bush Crime Family though. The will of the people means nothing to them, it's their private government to help themselves and thier cronies. The "voters" have (or shouldn't have) anything to do with the process in their opinion.

[Gman]

10. Lame

very lame

[DeepModem Mom]

11. What do we do here? Is there anything that can be done...

in the face of the willingness to use this kind of unbridled power? Are they thwarting a court order?

[billkurtmeyer]

12. These pukes no no shame - what happend to the "rule of law"?

[Beaverhausen]

13. Don't tell me - Dawn Roberts must also be the Bush Florida Campaign Chair

just guessing...

[LisaL]

14. I had no doubt

Jeb will get Nader on the ballot, somehow, someway.
Blaming the hurricane? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE!
IVAN aren't' even going that way.

[cthrumatrix]

15. tooo mnay people watching for this shit to start again

[LisaL]

16. They obviously don't care

who is watching.

[AnnInLa]

17. supposedly, Michael Moore said that he would be there...

watching with his cameras. However, it might be a little early for him to appear. Moore fodder for his next expose' though.

[CBHagman]

64. I would like to see Moore do unto Jeb as he did unto W.

Boy, does that family have it coming. OH, BROTHER.

[BootinUp]

18. The Bush cabal in action.

shocking I tell you.

[elperromagico]

19. Other news: Potential felons stricken from voter rolls in case of volcano.

Gotta be careful!

[Carolinian]

20. Looks like Ivan will spare Fla., so will the hearing take place?

[bringbackfdr]

21. Every Democrat with a voice should jump on this

These people are lying thieving scumbags. The Shrub family makes Tony Soprano look like a saint.

[zaj]

22. Kick... this is INSANE!

Is this making any national news?

This is the most corrupt act I've ever heard of from a very corrupt party!

[cthrumatrix]

61. nope....this is mafia

[DeepModem Mom]

23. Kicking

[DeepModem Mom]

25. LINK TO CONTACT INFO posted by ruggerson --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x807255

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

26. Who do we send money to that will get lawyers to fight this?

This is the sort of believable but unfair shenanigans we've come to expect from them.

Bush is an expert at playing games with the system, and so are his friends.

[JCMach1]

27. This move will be ruled unconstitutional if challenged...

She CAN'T do that arbitrarily....

[DeepModem Mom]

28. I'm not sure I trust the courts - - they failed us before --

n/t

[mahenphx]

30. You're assuming a lot of faith she'll wait...

My money's on the absentee ballots already wending their way around the globe and that she's going to say the Ivan threat was justification for not waiting for Weds.'s court decision. Besides they filed an injunction that cancelled out the first judge's stay on Nader.

[npincus]

29. article says the Florida Supreme Court could rule at any time

on this.

Anyone from Florida? Or know whether the Supreme Court would be inclined to intervene? Don't they tilt Democratic?

[mahenphx]

31. If they were leaning dem in 2000 ...

there's no guarantee there haven't been new appointments swaying them to Jeb's advantage this time around.

[DeepModem Mom]

37. Welcome to DU, mehenphx -- thanks for your input! nt

[Paradise]

46. Yes, they tilt Democratic but they are impotent when up against BFEE! n/t

[Leilani]

32. Kerry needs to JUMP on this immediately!

And send a team of lawyers to Florida immediately!

If they do not fight this, & if they do not make a NATIONAL issue of this, I will go ballistic.

They cannot just keep taking these punches, & doing nothing in response.

[DeepModem Mom]

34. The principle, the abuse of power, is more important than Nader --

when do we, and our media, stand against these people?

[mahenphx]

35. You mean WE actually have some media???

Couldn't prove it by a lot of what I've seen. We've had to create our own media coverage and discussion with sites like these. Really sad! But VIVA LA Computer... Sites are going up all the time, new blogs, even adult yahoo groups are posting because of Ashcroft's threats to them.

[DeepModem Mom]

36. I wasn't clear -- I don't expect our useless media to help at all --

Our media should not only make this a huge story, but make the story about much more than Nader. It's a story about abuse of power, and disregard for law. This has to be explained to the people, the significance of such an act has to be explained to the public. Do I expect the media to do it? No, like you, I do not.

[npincus]

33. Ivan vs. Dem's Shit Storm

Let's see what happens if a shit storm reigns down on the state of Florida.

[VOX]

38. You gotta be shittin' me!!!! Out-fuc*ing-rageous!!!!

This shit needs to be CALLED, and NOW. This is totally outrageous, blatant, whatever.

Another event in a line of sad events that illustrate that the Republicans will stop at **nothing** to get in power, and to stay in power.

Some big noise needs to be made about this NOW.

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. This is an appetizer

for what to expect in November. This MUST be stopped and NOW! Where are Kerry's attorneys? Are they in FL. fighting this? We should have heard about this from the Kerry campaign, not an internet article! Damn. They're on this, right? Why was there an injunction to prevent Nader from being on the ballot?

Ivan is going to miss FL. so, what's the wench's excuse now?

[DeepModem Mom]

40. This story, I think, hit late -- I don't find it in the morning papers --

I assume attorneys for the Florida Dem Party are on it. They could probably use some additional legal muscle. Ideally, we would have a responsible press, and they would be on it, not in terms of Nader but in terms of rule of law.

It leaves one feeling very helpless. What can you do in the face of this kind of ruthless use of power, and disregard for the rule of law? Courts have no armies -- they rely on acceptance of rule of law. That, it appears, means nothing to the Bush cabal and their henchmen and henchwomen. (And they are determined to control the courts, and are well on their way toward that goal.)

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. Vincent Bugliosi.......or someone of his ilk. Someone with a LOT of POWER.

What can you do in the face of this kind of ruthless use of power, and disregard for the rule of law?

We need BIG name attorneys who are willing to fight this crap and stop it in it's tracks as soon as it happens. We have to stop it before they get away with it. If they know we will fight them, tooth and nail, they will eventually stop trying.

Responsible media? Let's see if this is even a blip on the news. I somehow doubt it.

Has this been emailed to Michael Moore? I'll send it to him, just in case it hasn't been.

[DeepModem Mom]

42. MM excellent idea!

I may contact some law offices just for the heck of it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. THE STORY IS ON WASHINGTON JOURNAL!!!! C-SPAN

Vaughn Ververs "Hotline" just gave the report! I hope this grows some legs!!!

[EndElectoral]

44. First Repubs file their papers late...and now this...where's the outrage!!

[DeepModem Mom]

45. Orlando Sentinel report doesn't mention storm: Karl told Jeb to bag excuse

as too laughable for a brutal power play -- just play it straight?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/elections/orl-asecnader14091404sep14,0,4641707.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

Secretary of State Glenda Hood stepped in Monday and ordered Florida's 67 election supervisors to add the Reform Party candidate's name -- just days after a Tallahassee judge sided with the state Democratic Party and stripped him from the ballot.

"We are acting as an honest broker," Hood said. "Supervisors are under the gun in sending out these ballots."

But the move by Hood, the former Orlando mayor named state elections chief by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, quickly exploded into a partisan fight over Nader's candidacy.

"This is amazing," said Scott Maddox, state Democratic Party chairman. "What Glenda Hood and Jeb Bush have done is turn the state's Division of Elections into the political and legal arm of the state Republican Party," which is seen as wanting Nader on the ballot to pull votes from Democratic Sen. John Kerry....

[Paradise]

47. "Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me."

Go West, Young Ivan, Go West!

[DeepModem Mom]

48. "At least Mayor Daley stole elections by voting the dead in dark of night"

From today's electoral-vote.com report:

"The good news for Nader is that the Florida Divisions of Elections is putting him on the ballot despite a court order not to do so. In the old days, when Mayor Daley stole elections for the Democrats, at least he did it by getting dead people to vote in the dark of night. The Republicans are a lot more brazen. I suspect we haven't heard the last of this story."

[MallRat]

49. Isn't this a violation of a court order?

:wtf:

[DeepModem Mom]

50. QUESTION, LAWYERS: What is penalty for violating a court order?

What usually takes place when an ordinary citizen violates an order?

[Paradise]

51. We *"MUST"* let them know we're out here, and we're watching, CLOSELY! nt

[seabeyond]

57. they know. and they dont care

wink

[Paradise]

65. Touche! I don't know whether to :) or :(

You do seabeyond, don't you.

[npincus]

52. the weather looks FINE for Talahassee on 9/15

see:

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/local_index_day.asp?zipcode=32301&metric=0&partner=accuweather&day=2

[psychopomp]

53. wtf?

kick

[coolhandlulu]

54. Sickening!

I was at work when I read this and started to feel queasy. It's like living in the Twilight Zone. But what's the message? Are we gonna have to storm the WH and take it back physically? Disturbing and "pathetic"!

[DeepModem Mom]

55. Welcome to DU, coolhandlulu, even if amid unsettling news --

glad to have you here.

[npincus]

56. more info from The Orlando Sentinel

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/elections/orl-asecnader14091404sep14,0,4641707.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

excerpt:

A Saturday deadline is looming for Florida elections officials to mail about 50,000 ballots to military personnel and other voters overseas. At the moment, Nader would be on that ballot.

But Hood's action also is likely to prove not to be the final word. In separate action, an appeals court Monday sent the matter of Nader's candidacy to the Florida Supreme Court for review.

The state Supreme Court, which was at the epicenter of Florida's 2000 presidential-recount fight, is well aware of the crushing deadlines set by state-elections law, spokesman Craig Waters said.

But justices have not yet set a hearing date.

"At this point, there's no way of knowing" whether a hearing will be set by Friday, Waters said, which state officials portrayed as the last day overseas ballots can be printed.

[Supersedeas]

58. Court Orders mean nothing to the Bush Oligarchy

[in_cog_ni_to]

59. A Florida Dem election official was just on Air America

and he said they have appealed to the Florida Supreme Court and it will be decided tomorrow...Wednesday.

[wicket]

60. awesome

Let's hope the Supreme Court upholds the law!!!

[DaveinMD]

62. remember

the Florida Supreme Court upheld the law last time.

[tom_paine]

63. Did you really think anything else would happen?

Imperial Amerika is a corrupt Third-Wrld nation trading on the past glories of when it was free.

The Imperial Province of Florida is one of the most corrupt provinces in the Empire.

I am actually pleasantly surprised that Right-Wing Daeth Squads haven't started murdering people down there.

That's more of a 2020, Emperor Gropenfuhrer kind of thing.

[psychopomp]

66. kick