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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:51 PM
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Does Obama have MANA??? By all appearances, he has it...the ability to
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 12:51 PM by opihimoimoi
bridge adversity with solutions

Hawaiian blood is not required to have Mana.....it is in the Heart, the source of Healing....

What can he do in a World of Non Mana?? We saw what happened last Summer when visiting Europe/Mid East...he showed them his Mana...

We saw the same thing during the election process.....people cried...people smiled, ..People really began to have Positive vibes...

This is MANA

Instead of sniping..we should be looking for ways to help the Man with the Special Force accomplish what very few said could be done...fix America in 3 years....

We are looking a a Special Guy...he is not God per se....but ...he is Special....

No one in the GOP comes remotely close

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:56 PM
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1. Obama was born with a considerable number of gifts and abilities
What marks him as special is his willingness to use his talents and abilities to better the plight of his fellow man.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:58 PM
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2. A Special Strain of Mana known as Altruism...the man is benevolent and altruistic
on a scale rarely seen....
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:03 PM
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3. I'm thinking second coming...
or maybe not.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:07 PM
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4. Not quite...he still smokes...LOL
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:09 PM
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5. PE Obama is a good guy....I detect no hate in his system. We
need that right now. This world is jacked up..division, division, division.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:17 PM
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6. For All of Humanities Sake...for the Planet we depend on...we need to HEAL HEAL HEAL
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:17 PM
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7. You are silly. nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:18 PM
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8. Perhaps....but then...I come from where Mana is understood
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:19 PM
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9. That's cool. I come from where empiricism is understood. nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:30 PM
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11. Obama is also an ENFP guy...I like that....
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:10 AM
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52. No wonder I like him!
I'm ENFP too! :loveya:

I also lived in Hawaii as a pre-teen... I know about the Mana. :pals:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:47 PM
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19. Empiricism and Idealism are not mutually exclusive. See Pythagorus. The Golden Ratio etc
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:04 PM
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25. The Myers/Briggs thing.....the N is for Intuition...meaning Obama has intuition built up
from years of experience/observation/etc...

Its a good sign....
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:21 PM
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10. I know I bow down and pray to his image every night.
I hope every one here is doing the same.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:31 PM
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12. OK LOL...lets not get carried away here....
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:34 PM
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13. wow...can't say something positive about the PE without the
sarcastic worship crap. I guess saying something nice is better for the soul than having negative feelings for somebody not even in the white house yet. I'll go this route...thank you.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:37 PM
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14. LOL.
Too funny.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:37 PM
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15. Some peeps did not get the message yet...still stuck on sniping...its a condition
:toast:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:39 PM
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16. A sad one at that!
:fistbump:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:40 PM
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17. What's the message?
Please enlighten me with it.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:45 PM
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18. the Message? Opi linked to a page that explains Mana. The fact is, Obama is from the culture
where that concept is understood and likely colors his world view and his way of life.

Maybe the Message is, look up the word and appreciate that it's ideal might influence Obama and his leadership.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:59 PM
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23. Oh.
Well thanks. That clears it up.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:10 PM
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29. I know........
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 02:10 PM by Marrah_G
especially when the something nice is all about him being almost a deity.....

:crazy:







PS: I know you mean well but some of these posts border on creepy to me. I like Obama, I think he will end up being a fine President. Do I think he has the "force"? .....ask me again if he starts speaking like Yoda.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:12 AM
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53. Mana is a Polynesian concept well-known in Hawai'i. Humans can have mana...
If I had to assign a meaning of mana and Obama I'd think it would be in his temperament, his judgment, his authority.

"The words meaning is complex because mana is a basic foundation of the Polynesian worldview." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana

It's not some New Age concept. Wikipedia's essay is not the be-all and end-all of information about it, but it's a place to start understanding what Opi is trying to say.

Hekate






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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:54 AM
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61. I guess my thoughts are this:
I get creeped out when I see almost a deification of Obama by some folks. There are a few terms that I would like to use explaining my thoughts, but they were so misused to hurt people during the primary fights that I just won't go there.

I know the intent of the post was positive, and my thoughts on Obama are mostly positive. It just disturbs me when I see him described as "the One" or as some magical savior. It doesn't make me angry on anything, just sort of creepy, like watching the kids on "Jesus camp" talk about Bush sort of creepy.

Ugh... it's a hard topic to discuss without sounding like a jerk or causing hurt feelings. I probably shouldn't have commented at all.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:38 AM
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64. I guess I shoulda used the term PRESENCE...the closest equivilent I can think of
George Washington had "Presence" as did many others of History...

It is when a person reaches a point the Respect is so great....when he/she walks in a room....you feel it...others do too...a hush comes over the room for a brief time...

In my mind...Obama has reached this point....he is the MAN....a Hero who is not a Zero....
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:24 PM
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71. It's okay, Marrah. I think I understand your intent. From the get-go I have watched the projections
... (that is, the psychological projections of people's needs/wants/desires/fears) onto Barack Obama play themselves out at DU. I have tried both to understand him and to understand them.

Opi keeps saying Obama is an ENFP --well, I am an INTJ, which means I'm always hanging back and trying to figure things out, including (and especially) someone I want to fall in love with, because I don't fall in love easily.

There were a few DUers right from the start who vehemently asserted that Obama is "not really black," and that was my first :wtf: moment. It made me start trying to figure out for myself who Obama "really" is, and that led me eventually to our common home, Hawai'i. As for the "not really black" assertion, I realized that meant that he did not share slave-history in his DNA, but had married into that line. Which led me back to Hawai'i and its abundant history of intermarriage. I read his first book, and while I saw a young man trying to find his identity as a black American in a place with few black role-models, as well as a young man with ambitions too large for such a small place, I also (reading between the lines) saw that his mother's family's wholehearted embrace of Hawai'i was the bedrock of his world-view.

My other :wtf: moment came when his more fervent DU supporters started talking about him as though he were the Second Coming.

Like you I keep resisting the expression of hero-worship and idealization because of the many pitfalls along that road. It is indeed creepy, when carried too far. The concomitant hazard is that when he fails to be the Answer to Everything, a bunch of DUers are going to turn on him like a pack of dogs.

At this moment in time, post-election and pre-swearing-in, all I want to do is enjoy a bit of a honeymoon, because against all odds we actually got this guy elected. He is the first black president. Also the first Hawaiian president. Also the first Pacific-Asian president... All of that is actually true.

It's really upsetting my plan for enjoying these weeks that some DUers are virulently attacking Obama for not being the Immediate Answer to Everything This Very Minute. It seems kind of unfair and makes me want to defend him, a balancing act on my part because I also want to keep holding in mind the fact that he's human and inevitably will disappoint. No need for Jesus Camp, just some rational thinking. Ah well.

Rambling on,

Hekate

PS: If you want to talk about this some more without fear of flaming, just PM me. :hi:



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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 08:22 AM
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77. Thanks for the response
You totally got what I was trying to say.

I think Obama has made some great choices so far and one really bad choice. In the long run I hope he continues to make far more good choices then bad choices for THAT will make him a great President. I just want people to realize that he is a man, one man. His success will rely greatly on those he has around him. He is like the coach of a sports team not an infallible hero that will bring about world peace with a flash of his pearly whites. Like all coaches he will win some and lose some and we here at DU had better try and get used to the idea.

Thanks for "getting me", but then you are the Goddess of the Witches! :loveya:
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:48 PM
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20. oh ffs
:puke:

this is worse than the pic threads
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:53 PM
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21. Whats wrong with them Pictures??? some believe and others don't
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:57 PM
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22. umm....nothing....enjoy!
:scared:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:00 PM
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24. Agreed.
nt
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:11 PM
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30. err believe what?
seriously....... just wow.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:17 PM
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34. Some believe in Obama...they want him to succeed, to help heal the Nation
Others do not believe...some even want him to fail

Pity...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:24 PM
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36. Can one think he has a good shot at being a very fine president.....
without being a .....believer......?

Yikes...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:27 PM
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37. Yes...you are right...the term shoulda been A SUPPORTER
A Believer has a connotation of the metaphysical...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:30 PM
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39. Whew thank you
Yes- I am a supporter. I want him to succeed. However I don't consider him to have any special powers.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:04 PM
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26. Is this what DU has come to?
Obama is not God "per se"?

I don't think ascribing supernatural powers to people who are elected to office helps democracy in any way, shape or form.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:06 PM
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27. Who said He was God??? Only that he has an ability to solve in a positive way
Having Mana is akin to being the ENFP of Myers/Briggs...

Nothing supernatural about that.....
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:17 PM
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33. Um ... I was quoting YOU.
I think "Obama is not God" can stand on it's own ... without the "per se" qualifier. I think it's weird that you felt the need to add a qualifier to that statement.

From the link you provided, it's not akin to personality types. "In anthropological discourse, mana as a generalized concept has attained a significant amount of interest, often understood as a precursor to formal religion. It has commonly been interpreted as "the stuff of which magic is formed","

A Myers/Briggs personality test is not akin to magicky precursors to religions, or Special forces within a person with a Capital S.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:23 PM
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35. Point well taken,,,The MB thing was to inform Obama is an N type
Intuition brought to a sharp focus from many experiences...some us have it...others lack...I see it among friends and family...

I guess the Intuition thing is best described as the GUT FEELINGs we get when trying to decide one way or another...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:06 PM
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28. ...............
Don't even know how to respond to this........
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:12 PM
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31. I hear his frost bolt crits for 7K
But then, I'm a geek that way.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:17 PM
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32. hahahahahaha!
i had the same thought. Obama needs to grind more faction rep IMO.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:28 PM
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38. Obama is friendly....it's going to take a while for him to become Exalted....
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:54 AM
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59. Me three. and my backstab crits for 1200 only :-/
and my MAIN is a nooby level 58 night elf rogue...

:cry:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:56 AM
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62. Ummm ... Cows cannot be rogues !!!!!
I knew I liked you!

One of these days I'll get a new computer at home again so I can restart my wow addiction.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:03 PM
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73. Cow rogues blunder about a bit
and :blush: easily unless stealthed

:hi:
bmc
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:27 PM
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40. Yes Obama has mana...

but Warren may be bad mojo, and he's giving a blessing?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojo

Even the Obama needs protectin'

"Whenevah ah'm afraid of someone doin' me harm ah read the 37 Psalms an' co'se ah leaves the Bible open with the head of it turned to the east as many as three days."
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:39 PM
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41. Does Obama have MANANA?
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 06:40 PM by bananas
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 08:51 PM
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43. The Gop Rats scurry about trying to give him Lumps and Bumps...but cannot...he is Relaxed
and they are not...such is victory....The Art of War.. Sun Tzu
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:03 PM
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44. We rats HATE the GOP!!!
:mad: leave us out of it!




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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:47 PM
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45. Sorry bout that Swampie...shoulda used Slitherns...they always slithering on the floor...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:51 PM
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46. Yeah, just stay out of our phylum and you''l be ok.
:D :hi:




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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:08 PM
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47. Damn...phylum??? haven't heard the term in 50 years....maybe 40....LOL
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 07:34 PM
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42. Yeah .... all that. He is filled to the brim. NT
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:19 AM
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48. Seek help.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:28 AM
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49. Manah Manah?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:31 AM
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57. LOL...Mynah mana
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:57 AM
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50. May the farce be with you
Glad you choked out the "per se" to keep yourself grounded...

There's going to be SO much disillusionment; we're seeing it already.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:59 AM
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51. Birthright from being born in a place with a lot of mana; some soak it up...
Did you see this NYT article from Christmas day?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/25/us/politics/25obama.h...
Obamas Zen State, Well, Its Hawaiian

To me it looks as if, slowly but surely, *some* in the MSM are starting to pay attention to how Hawai'i shaped our new president.

Aloha no, Opi.

Hekate


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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:21 AM
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54. I think some folks don't get it because it's a Hawaii culture thing....
Even my very Catholic mother got into the whole spiritual vibe of Hawaii when we lived there. It's hard to explain to someone who hasn't been there. It's not fundie worship stuff. It's more like being connected to other people and nature.... more similar to Native American cultures on the mainland... seeing the spiritual side of everything. I don't see him as a god in any way, but I do think that he has a spiritual sense that is comparable to what comes from various indigenous cultures including polynesian.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:49 AM
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55. You get it. I've been trying to explain it here for two years...
There was another article I read here (can't find it right now, but Deep Modem Mom seems to be the source for a lot of good ones that I file away) from an Asian-Pacific publication that said that Obama is truly the first Asian-Pacific POTUS, and detailed his upbringing and family ties.

It's more than simple projection (although I've seen an awful lot of it here), it's a recognition of the unusual forces that shaped him, and a sense of affinity that spans the globe. Americans -- most of them-- just aren't used to thinking in those terms.

It's such a huge stretch for most Americans to see him as biracial (not simply "black") that seeing him as Asian-Pacific as well is beyond their imagination. But he is.

There are bound to be disappointments, with expectations so high. But it is kind of sad to see the amount of carping before he can even get sworn in. But I digress.

Hekate


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:56 AM
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60. He is an ENFP guy according to the MBTI
The N is for Intuition...experiences that shape the inner mind with knowledge....

this helps him be stronger/wiser/solver....
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:45 AM
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58. Wahine O Ka Aina Mahalo e Kokua .....Hauoli Hauoli Makahiki
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 06:49 AM by opihimoimoi
Aloha no

Come, we go eat, drink, sing, smile, laugh, listen.....

Some slack key guitar for the Lady

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8eNBdS-V0M
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:40 PM
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72. Aloha back atcha, Opi. I am definitely taking you up on that some day. T'anks fo da slack key link
Lovely stuffs. I love how You Tube gives you one after another. I'll be listening to Ledward Kaapana for awhile today thanks to you.

This New Year is bound to be better.

:pals:

Hekate


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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:26 AM
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56. Please, enough with the blind adoration.
It's a little too much. He's an intelligent man and a gifted politician, but he's not the "Secular Messiah", as Limbaugh dubbed him.

Thanks for clarifying that he is not God per se..........

Geez!!!!!

:scared:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 08:15 AM
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63. creepy. nt
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 10:21 AM
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65. You were ringing someones chimes weren't you
:). Sometimes I am a day late, picking up on stuff, but that was pretty good.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:45 AM
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66. Mana is a concept described by James Michner in his HAWAII if I remember correctly
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 11:48 AM by opihimoimoi
I was trying to share but some took it differently....

Obama is just like many others who have this Mana....when they arrive...everyone pays attention...when they walk in a room...the room becomes quiet...so on....

High Respect and Credibility I guess....who knows...

If anyone...its those Pubs chimes I want to ring...LOL...they are bankrupt...no one with Mana in their Camp...not even Sarah or Condi.

:toast:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:21 PM
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67. Can't say that I understand it..but by George I can drink to it!
"Good wishes for better times ahead. skoal" :toast:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:49 PM
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68. Yup... :o) Co,e, we go drink, eat, laugh, smile enjoy.....life is too short. Be Happy
:beer: :toast:
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:07 PM
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69. Wonder if he's noticed what is going on in Gaza.
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 02:07 PM by deaniac21
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 03:21 PM
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70. ummmm I think Condi has been calling him with updates...If I recollect...
:toast:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:59 AM
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76. sure he has...he's really smart, and he's also smart enough to
realize that saying anything other than what Bush is saying wouldn't be a good move and could possibly send mixed messages to the world.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:06 PM
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74. If you tap your lands, you'll have mana too.
Magic: The Gathering was a fun game.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:54 AM
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75. Are you refering to the Best Use of Land Contest and its use in Land Zoning??
As opposed to the Fantasy/False Value Reckoning we just witnessed start Last Year and is continuing/worsening....

Holy Crap....Its True...and its happening....and all I see is bandaids.....OMG...no answers in sight.....
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 08:28 AM
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78. I don't know - he could just have a whole lot of political bullshit going on...
We'll see what he does in office ~ so far I'm impressed by the green team and plans for a green economy, not impressed with some of his cabinet choices, and disgusted with his decision to elevate a guy like Warren.

Maybe he has mana, maybe he's just another political con man ~ we'll see...

What I know for sure is that I'm glad he's in office and not McCain.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 08:34 AM
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79. I agree with you. But cynical posing is so much more "PC".
:sarcasm:

Nope on second thought, I'm on board with mana. The cynics will be wearing the egg-on-the-face, just like in the primaries. Lots of people who recognized the mana then will be silly enough to keep supporting him as you suggest, and I intend to be one of them.

Thanks for your post. :fistbump:

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