Caroline Kennedy + 8 Years In The US Senate = 2016 Campaign For POTUS

[malik flavors]

Think about it:

She's JFK's daughter
She'll have more experience than Obama had in the US senate
She'll most likely be endorsed by her BFF Obama, who at that time might have been one of our greatest presidents with sky high approval ratings.
Women and America in general with think it's time for a female POTUS
She'll be a rockstar and able to raise tons of money
she'll be 59, which is younger than Hillary was this past election
She's so likeable, she'd be a teflon candidate, and attack ads against her would turn voters off
The Kennedy's are still very influential, and she'd have an excellent campaign staff, probably including ex-Obama staffers

If she gets some foreign policy experience by joining the appropriate committees and has some siginificant legislation passed over the next 8 years, she'll have a great shot.

[Warren DeMontague]

1. I like Caroline. 2016 is a long way away, but in the meantime she's a perfect fit for the Senate.

:thumbsup:

[firedupdem]

2. She seems too private a person for all of this unless she completely

changes...who knows? You may be on to something! :shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. She is far from being a private person. Look her up at Wikipedia.

[eleny]

3. That legislation might have something to do with health care

:D

[babylonsister]

4. But senators can't be elected president!

:hide:

[eleny]

6. Why, yoooou!

[cali]

5. adulation. pure and simple.

I'm not into it. And frankly, I think it's utterly pathetic and ridiculous.

[Captain Hilts]

8. People like the idea of her, just as many did for Obama. Let 'em have their fun. nt

[Occam Bandage]

14. People were posting similar things about Obama after the '04 convention.

For the same reason.

Sometimes, it works out.

[camera obscura]

7. Okay but... she should get there by running, not by being appointed.

I have no problem with her using her name to run. After all the Kennedys have been some of the great liberals in our time. But having her be appointed would be a mess.

[Thrill]

35. Whoever is appointed will have to run in 2 elections in 4ys

So she will have to earn it even if appointed

[Clio the Leo]

9. Woohooo! Only if she brings her pony back with her! NT

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. I think that Macaroni has been in his pasture in the sky for decades now!

[Clio the Leo]

25. You mean horses dont live 40 years! Come on now! lol

(it was a metaphoric pony) :-p

[Hawkowl]

40. Actually ponies easily live to be 40! nt

[Seen the light]

10. LOL

How about not?

[Beacool]

11. Sorry, but no.

I'm still hoping that my Gal runs again. Caroline is a lovely woman, but POTUS????????

:eyes:

[GoesTo11]

12. Why?

What makes you think she has any presidential qualities? She's not an inspiring speaker. She's not shown any economic or diplomatic savvy one way or the other. She's a fine person, and I could see her knowing enough to be an effective senator given that she comes in with a lot of positive feelings. But being the offspring of a president is clearly, as we have learned painfully, no kind of qualification whatsoever.

[Voice for Peace]

33. I think it is signicant when you look at the role models of her parents.

And the genetics of the brilliance in the family, and the strong values. She is from the integrity wing of the family, for sure.

[JoePhilly]

16. Neat idea .... we need lots of ideas like this ....

I'm serious ... I'm not sure Caroline is the "next one" ... but we on the left need to be GROOMING a bunch of people for 2016 ... and we need to start now ... we should be looking for some in the southern states too.

We need to be thinking strategically about this ... the more strong folks we prepare, the better we'll be able to shift focus based on what the country needs at a given point in time.

The GOP has been focused on the very far right ... it cost them this time.

We need to not make that mistake ... if we want the Democratic principles we share to move forward, then we need a cast of potentials which represent the total, and then we should pick the one best suited for the times that exist.

But the LAST thing we should do is start casting potential folks aside. THAT makes no sense.

[babylonsister]

18. I think you are right. Any and all interested people should be

welcome, as should Ms. Kennedy if she's really serious. There are and will be lots of positions to be filled and dedicated Dems should be encouraged.

[JoePhilly]

19. I hope Chelsea Clinton considers the House or Senate at some point ...

I'm not pushing "dynasties" ... but in my family ... we had 3 generations of carpenters ... I have friends .. 4 generations of electricians ... the children of actors often become actors ...

Parents and families often, by example (not by DNA), pass knowledge and philosophy to their kids.

Boys have been encouraged to "follow in their father's foot-steps" ...

Why not girls??

But not just the kids of some of our favorite politicians. I liked that Biden's son didn't want to replace him.

[gingersnaps1]

41. I don't know about Caroline. But I think you have an excellent idea.

I like it. Think ahead.

[Occam Bandage]

17. Not quite as ridiculous as it seems at first glance.

Eight years is an eternity in politics. Eight years ago, Obama was less well known. Right now, I don't think she's anything close to a frontrunner, or even a dark-horse, or even within fifty miles of the racetrack.

But it could happen. And it would be pretty neat if it did.

[11cents]

20. Well, if she expresses interest in being President ....

...maybe we should just make her President now. After all, she's a Kennedy.

[Mass]

21. I would prefer to see emerge a new generation of politicians, rather than focusing on ONE person who

has a well known name. I know this is DU talk, without consequence and it is fun to talk, but it should tell us something when people are ready to promote somebody who has 0 experience in politics as a candidate for president just because of her name. It is really not good for this party that we consider that rich candidates and candidate with famous names should hold the power.

Sorry, but it bugs me and I like her a lot.

[malik flavors]

23. After 8 years in the senate she'll have more experience than Hillary or Obama had.

[Mass]

31. My problem is focusing on her NOW. May be she will become a leader in the Senate if she becomes

Senator. At this point, the only reason to suggest she could run as president is her name. This may be fine in an oligarchy. In a democracy, this is quite questionable (or would you suggest that Amy Kobluchar or Maria Cantwell as candidates?).

[malik flavors]

32. This thread isn't about now, it's about 2016. nt.

[Beacool]

38. Errrrrr, no......

Hate to disavow you, but Hillary will have 8 years of experience in the senate come January. Furthermore, if she had won the presidency, she would have been the only person to have served 8 years each at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. Caroline doesn't even come close to that kind of experience. Also, in another 8 years Hillary will have several years of SOS experience under her belt.

;-)

[datopbanana]

45. First Lady is hardly serving.

[cali]

54. tell it to Eleanor Roosevelt. n/t

[Beacool]

55. Thank you.

Hillary was not a Laura Bush, but a lot closer to Eleanor.

;-)

[cali]

42. really? So Caroline's presumed 8 years in the Senate are worth more

than Hillary's. How fucking ridiculous can you get? And Obama had 8 years in the Illinois State Senate. What a load of adulatory crap.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

22. Fine with me.

We could do a lot worse than Caroline Kennedy, that's for sure.

[whistler162]

24. We will have to wait and see....

but it would be neat for her to be President on her father's 100th birthday!

[thatsrightimirish]

26. IF Chelsea Clinton doesn't beat her in the primary

Just kidding.

[victoryparty]

47. When will Bristol Palin be eligible to run for POTUS?

[Bonn1997]

50. Malia Obama in 2024!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Okay, you had me there for a second.

[Perky]

27. OMG this noinensense has no end!

[WinkyDink]

28. Stranger things have happened. Maybe CK will be our first female President.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

62. I'd love it. CK in 2016.

[kingpin8399]

29. this is just DUMB

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

30. I say yes!

[Road Scholar]

34. K&R Just saw that. The train is starting to roll!!!!! WoooHoooo

[Metric System]

36. Whatever happened to NO POLITICAL DYNASTIES? Or is that one of those special rules only applied to

the Clinton family?

[pecwae]

46. What do you think?

[struggle4progress]

51. I think "no political dynasties" is an excellent rule. There must be about

150 million women in the US: surely more than of few of them could be excellent candidates abnd excellent Presidents

[Jim Lane]

53. I don't think we'll see a resurgent dynasty here

Governor Paterson is more likely to appoint someone who's already won an election and who, if not appointed, might challenge Paterson himself for the governorship in 2010 -- namely, the New York Attorney General, Andrew Cuomo.

So, you see, your fears of a dynasty are groundless. :)

And, speaking seriously, my preference for the appointment would be that it go to one of several Members of Congress from New York who've already shown themselves to be top-notch legislators.

[LostinVA]

69. Tell me about it

The hypocrisy from some posters teh last few days has literally made me lol.

[Billy Shears]

37. I was worried Obama had no plan for who came after him until I heard Caroline was up for Senate

Now I know we are in good hands for the future.

[dkf]

39. I'm guessing I'd like her positions a lot more than I liked

Hillary's i.e. IWR, or even some of Obama's i.e. FISA vote.

I'm interested in hearing more.

But please do not let me hear any stories about how any of her relatives are twisting arms. She has to do this without pushing her family weight around.

[Lorentz]

43. What a splendid idea!

Not yours, I mean this one:

George Walker Bush for President!

Think about it:

He's GHWB's son

he'll have more experience than Clinton had being a recognizable name.

he'll most likely be endorsed by his BFF Reagan, who at that time might have been one of our greatest presidents with sky high approval ratings.

Women and America in general with think it's time for a wholesome, Christian POTUS who won't grope you when you turn your back.

He's a millionaire who will be able to raise tons of money from his oil buddies.

He'll be 54, which is younger than Gore was this past election

He's so likeable -- you just want to have a beer with him -- and he'd be a teflon candidate, and attack ads against him would turn voters off because they're sick of impeachment and stuff like that.

The Bushes are still very influential, and he'd have an excellent campaign staff, probably including ex-Obama Bush/Reagan staffers.

If he gets some foreign policy experience by reading comic books and has some siginificant legislation passed over the next 8 years, he'll have a great shot.

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NO MORE POLITICAL DYNASTIES! STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!

[davidpdx]

44. I think talking about 2016 is way too premature

no matter who we are talking about. We have a long way to go and lots to do before we get to that point.

[No Elephants]

48. Camelot is a fond memory for those of us who are older. Several generations of voters could

care less, though. If Caroline succeeds at anything way more than a half century after her father's death, it will be on her own merits, not bc of her Dad or RFK. And as many people hate Ted as love him That Chappaquidick lie has persisted longer than the accomplishments of the Kennedys, which people who came of age long after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cannot barely grasp.

[Mother Of Four]

49. All I have to say is-

New blood. We have that with O, we need to continue it.

Don't get me wrong though, I like her.

:hi:

[MyNameGoesHere]

52. The same people that were

anti dynasties, "No more Clintons" use her Kennedy dynasty credentials as qualification. This is one fucking weird place.

[Onlooker]

56. Bleh

Enough of royalty in the United States. Caroline Kennedy mostly exists to glorify her family name, not to better America. If she wants to run for office, let her. But, handing her a Senate seat on a silver platter would be the exact wrong message for the Democratic Party. I know there are hero worshippers out there -- lovers of the Kennedy name, Princess Diana, and so on, but this country was founded to overthrow that reactionary mentality. Appointing Caroline because of her last name is wrong. She would be in Senate to serve the Kennedy legacy, not the people of New York or of the United States. She has been obsessed with her family name for years.

[bdamomma]

57. Her Uncle Teddy could give her some pointers if she accepts.

[MasonJar]

58. Works for me!

[Bake]

59. She's not a leader. Sorry.

I see nothing in her that would make her an effective Senator, much less a decent presidential candidate.

Bake

[Billy Shears]

60. you just know that if she wants it, it is hers. She would crush all competition.

Sweet Caroline, good times never were so good!

[Bake]

61. But why should it be hers for the asking?

Just because she's a Kennedy?

Bake

[Gin]

64. just because her name is Kennedy????

[Bake]

67. That's a question.

There seems to be an attitude here that because she is a Kennnedy, with known progressive proclivities, that she is entitled to the Senate seat. I question that assumption.

Bake

[madmom]

65. I may be wrong, but I didn't see all this concern when

Sony Bono's wife took over for him when he died a few years back. Was she qualified? Did she have any experience?:shrug:

[LostinVA]

70. There was all kind of concern about it, from all sides

[DailyGrind51]

66. It would be the culmination of national healing from the series of events that began

with the assassination of her father in 1963.

[NashVegas]

68. I Hadn't Seen This

When I started my own thread about. Yeah, all that.