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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:58 PM
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Senate Recount: Pendulum Swings To Franken - Star Tribune
Senate recount: Pendulum swings to Franken
The Democrat gained from a cache of found ballots in Ramsey County,
along with a decision on rejected absentee votes.


By MIKE KASZUBA and CURT BROWN, Star Tribune staff writers
Last update: December 3, 2008 - 11:21 AM

<snip>

The U.S. Senate recount took two abrupt turns Tuesday, both boosting the prospects of DFLer Al Franken.

Franken unexpectedly picked up 37 votes due to a combined machine malfunction and human error on Election Day that left 171 Maplewood ballots safe, secure but uncounted until Tuesday's final day of recounting in Ramsey County. Secretary of State Mark Ritchie's office immediately asked county officials to explain what had happened, and U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman's campaign said it sent its own experts to Ramsey County to review the situation and said it was "skeptical about sudden appearance."

By the end of Tuesday, with 93 percent of the total vote recounted, the Republican's lead stood at 303 votes with the state Canvassing Board set to finalize results Dec. 16. More than 6,000 ballots have been challenged by the two campaigns, with Coleman challenging 183 more than Franken.

Two large metro counties, Scott and Wright, are among four counties scheduled to begin their recounts today.

The day's other news -- which Franken's campaign quickly described as a "breakthrough" -- came when Ritchie's office asked local election officials to examine an estimated 12,000 rejected absentee ballots and determine whether their rejection fell under one of four reasons for rejection defined in state law. The Secretary of State's office asked that ballots that were rejected for something other than the four legal reasons be placed into a so-called "fifth category."

The fifth category, Ritchie's office said, could also include absentee ballots rejected for reasons that were "not based on factual information."

Ritchie's office, while stressing that the ballots be examined but not counted, asked that the task be completed by Dec. 18.

The move appeared to give at least some new life to the Franken campaign's longstanding effort to add to the recount what it estimates are as many as 1,000 improperly rejected absentee ballots.

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More: http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/35382149.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUxWoW_oD:EaDUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:03 PM
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1. Let's hope for the best.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:09 PM
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2. lets
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:14 PM
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3. I'm originally from liberal Decatur, GA. And after last night's heartbreak...
Give me Senator Al Franken, thank you! ;)
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:14 PM
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4. More: MN-Senate: Counting Chaos! - Chris Cillizza
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As the manual recount in the Minnesota Senate race between Republican Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken nears its conclusion, the identity of the winner is growing increasingly unclear.

Franken's campaign proclaimed Wednesday that by their own calculation they had gone up by 22 votes.

The secretary of State and Star Tribune put Coleman up 303 votes.

The Coleman campaign said (facetiously) they are leading by 2,200 votes in a release in response to Franken yesterday.

What gives?

After several conversations with people far smarter than us on both sides of the aisle, here's our best take on where things stand, the discrepancy in counts and where we go from here.

First, the facts.

By Friday, all 2.9 million (or so) of the votes cast in the race will have been manually recounted. As of today there are roughly 138,000 votes that have yet to be recounted.

The process by which the votes have been recounted is simple: an independent arbiter looks at each ballot (on a precinct by precinct basis) and rules on whether it is a vote for Coleman or Franken. Each campaign has an observer in place at the recount and that observer can challenge the ruling of the independent judge. By and large the voter intent is obvious and the ballot is not challenged but in some cases one side or the other makes a challenge -- typically on the basis that the voter's intent is not clear.

It is these challenged ballots, which number roughly 6,000, that are responsible for the confusion.

The secretary of State's office chooses not to count any of these ballots in its overall vote count -- meaning that when the recount ends on Friday there will be 6,000 or so fewer votes than there were on election day.

The Franken campaign, on the other hand, is counting all 6,000 votes -- using as its standard the judgment of the independent observer. So, if the independent analyst ruled a ballot as a vote for Coleman -- even if Franken is challenging it -- the Franken campaign counts it as a vote for Coleman.

In short: the secretary of State is counting none of the challenged ballots and the Franken campaign is counting all of the challenged ballots. It's that simple.

The fate of the race likely rests in the hands of how these 6,000 challenged ballots shake out. Once the recount ends, a five-person canvassing board is set to meet on Dec. 16 to make final rulings on the remaining challenged ballots.

Our take: This race is about as close to a tie as you can get. But, remember that in politics perception matters and both sides are, smartly, seeking to win the PR battle.

The Coleman campaign is emphasizing that he was ahead on election night and, according to the secretary of State he is ahead in the recount.

The Franken folks stand by their +22 number and believe -- publicly and privately -- that this is a race that will be decided by a few dozen votes.

Remember that the closest Senate race in history -- the 1974 New Hampshire contest between Republican Louis Wyman and Democrat John Durkin -- wound up being litigated by the Senate itself and, eventually, concluded in a re-vote in which Durkin emerged as the winner.

Could we be headed down that road again?

By Chris Cillizza | December 3, 2008; 4:38 PM ET

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Link: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/12/mn-senate_chaos_rules.html?nav=rss_blog

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:11 PM
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7. if it went to a coin toss, I'd demand that both parties be allowed to examine the coin
along with an impartial observer ...
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:23 PM
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5. I have to recommend this.
I am concerned because of conflicting information I've read here. But here's to hope that the best man wins! :toast:
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:26 PM
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6. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Things did not look good last night.
But if it is being reported that the pendulum is swinging toward Franken, I hope that he will pull this thing out.
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