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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:10 AM
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GOP Flummoxed...cannot implement Bush Coup due to Obamas immense Popularity
and Presidential Victory.

For a time...Rove and Crew were thinking of a coup, a way of suspending elections, and installing WBush as Commander in Chief on a permament basis allowed by the Patriot Act..

Its not outta the woods yet...if Osama attacks Bush will have an excuse to suspend the Inauguration...but Would he???

More than likely they will let Obama ride into the Oval and hope he fails...

They will help him fail...

Thats their M.O.

Then they will make a case for 2012...

But..ya never noes...they want to dominate so bad they can taste it...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:16 AM
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1. I think this citizenship bullshit is their first attempt.
It will NEVER stop. Apparently there are full page ads in some papers today. :eyes:
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:17 AM
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3. please elaborate. what citizenship thing?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:21 AM
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6. Hawaii is a full on State of the USA....Obama was born here....the State has the original stats
Obama is a certified Citizen...why is this questioned unless trouble making is the intent....?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:45 AM
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15. Trouble making IS the intent
Well funded trouble making.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:19 PM
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17. Thisa is why they will lose in the Future...the GOP keeps delving into negativity
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:17 AM
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2. I thought about that too during the election
the only reason they didn't try any coup against Obama was because he was too popular and the country would have rioted or a revolution would have taken place. The last thing they want is a country aware of their intentions, they wants us to be oblivious and ignorant. So- they had to sacrifice and let this one slide.

I know it sounds too conspiracy.. but I still think they wanted to do this but couldn't'.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:20 AM
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5. Or, you know, because the Constitution exists,
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 11:20 AM by Occam Bandage
and the American people are not likely to go along with any coup of any sort. The Bush Republicans are not the first political entity to desire power, after all. One of the great things about a stable democracy is that you can be reasonably sure that, after you lose power, it's only a matter of time before you regain it fair and square--so it's really not in anybody's interest to gamble everything on a coup that's far more likely to fail than to succeed.
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AtomTan Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:24 AM
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11. The American people will go along with anything their TVs tell them to go along with.
Iraq War anyone?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:27 AM
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13. Not really.
You can sometimes sell America a bad idea, such as Iraq. Sometimes, you can't, such as Social Security privatization. You can't win 'em all, and you can't lose 'em all--but you'll win some of 'em, which is why everyone keeps playing the game. Nobody's going to declare a revolution and risk getting shut out.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:43 PM
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26. "and the American people are not likely to go along with any coup of any sort. " Maybe not.
ONe could argue that the 2000 election was a coup. Not carried out by the military, but by the Supreme Court. They assumed authority where they may or may not have had it. They halted the recount in Florida, then later asserted that there was no time to count the votes of the citizens of Florida. The 5-4 majority opinion ran contrary to most justices' past principles and was also declared "not a precedent" (hey, it's either a loegitimate interpretation of the Constitution or it isn't.) Certainly by any consistently-applied standard, Gore won Florida and thus the presidency. This was a coup d'etat. But many Americans went along with it.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:45 PM
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28. The GOP has no morals....thank you....it was a coup.....twice......
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:01 PM
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32. Blow up one more occupied building
in a major US city and see how many lemmings in this country would run right over that cliff.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:47 PM
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39. But see there, whatcha don't unnerstand is........

".....the Constitution's just a goddamn piece of paper."
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:18 AM
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4. So, is this how you'll explain away
the ridiculous "BUSH IS GOING TO BE A DICTATAR FOREVAR!" conspiracy theory not coming to fruition?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:21 AM
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7. Oh for fuck's sake. You should be embarassed by your OP
Nothing could be clearer than that georgie wants out in a big way.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:23 AM
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10. Its not him, its the GOP....and what if Cheney wants in? who noes whad the GOP has in mind?
:toast:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:31 PM
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19. I think some folks are simply beyond embarassment. Sad.
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AtomTan Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:22 AM
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8. Yeah, I'm holding off major celebrations until Jan 20
I was surprised that we made it to the election. After warning everyone that we wouldn't, I feel like the alarmist that everyone has accused me of being. And yet, why all the continuance of govt directives in the last, why the domestic deployment, why all these obvious preparations for a coup if they didn't plan to use them?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:26 AM
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12. I am also a tad queasy about these last few weeks....
The GOP is so DESPERATE....they even hailed Martins defeat in Ga as a major victory
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:22 AM
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9. Exactly the same reaction they had to Bill Clinton
Start throwing out accusations to see what sticks, in the process sowing doubt.

If the GOP controlled the congress, they would already be talking impeachment. On hate radio they will soon be seeking women willing to say they've screwed Obama.

It's what they do.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:28 AM
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14. For 8 years Rush threw everything at the Clintons,,,he was relentless
Others followed....

They will find Obamas love child soon.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:31 PM
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20. I still can't understand why Clinton didn't challenge Limbaugh publically.
A debate at noon on the steps of the Capital building - he, certainly, would have smashed the fat sucker but, instead, day after day, he took it on the chin.

I was amazed at the abuse Clinton took ("Day one of captivity") and he never responded. Every day Limbaugh was emboldened - even attacking Chelsea, strongly implying they murdered Vince Foster - and still no response.

I didn't "get"in then and I still don't.

Ok he would have been giving the POS tremendous publicity but not to say ANYTHING???

In the old days he might have challenged him to a dual - maybe that's what he should have done then.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:39 PM
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24. I have to agree...I was alsao outraged this went on for all of the 8 years
Rush was so successful, the GOP gave him a 300 million dollar contract...30 mil a year for 10 years....The GOP musta thought Rush could get the WHITE HOUSE for them once more....

Oh well...even the GOP can get burned on occasion
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:09 PM
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16. I think this is some serious tinfoil shit.
Bush doesn't want to be President any more than we want him to be. He's sick of the job and wants out.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:20 PM
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18. But Cheney makes the call, not Bush....
and I got the hat on...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:34 PM
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21. so why didn't they attack Iran back in September or cause a domestic terror attack?
I thought those events were supposed to go hand in hand with cancelling the election.

Or maybe these conspiracies never were more than tinfoil run wild.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:40 PM
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25. Perhaps Obama had gained too much strength by then...his Mana was apparent after the Europe trip
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:58 PM
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29. hi-larious
First, Obama was struggling in early September, losing ground to the McCain bounce. With attention focused on the repub convention and labor day weekend and hurricane activity, wouldn't it have been the perfect time (if you believed in this nonsense, which I don't) to put the big plan in motion?

Second, am I correct in understanding that you now believe that Cheney and crew only planned to pull off a takeover of the government if it looked like McCain was going to win?

Like I said: Hi-larious.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:27 PM
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41. LOL
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:13 PM
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34. His power level was OVER 9000!!!
:rofl:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:27 PM
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42. 888888 giga mites
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:38 PM
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22. Take a deep breath. We won.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:39 PM
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23. How do you know this? Link? Article? n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:43 PM
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27. Its just an OP....nothing set in stone....but the GOP shows signs of being desperate
and we should keep our hats on...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:59 PM
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30. wait -- we're supposed to be concerned now?
Isn't Obama even more popular now than at the time of the election?

If you're going to go all tinfoil on us, at least try for some consistency.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:59 PM
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31. This Sounds Like The Insane, Delusional And Highly Irrational Lunacy Found In The DU Dungeon.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:28 PM
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43. This is the Den of the GOP
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:07 PM
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33. here you go
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:44 PM
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38. Thats all it is ...a friggen hat and peeps get their panties in a wad...
sheeesh
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:36 PM
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35. Bush doesn't want to be president anymore. He wants to go back
to the ranch, sit out on the porch and down a whole bottle of Jack Daniels.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:12 PM
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36. The OP should make an appointment with a psychiatrist...
What utter pablum.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:07 PM
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37. I haveheard this "suspension of the election" rumor since Nixon's days!
It seems never to go out of circulation every time a Republican is in the White HOuse and election time rolls around.

PLEEZ folks, give this thing a rest! We have to deal with enough of their subversion of our democracy and our Constitution. Let's not make stuff up...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:48 PM
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40. 2000 should be an example of a coup gone wild....we end up with Bush
Just cause he wants out, or so he sez....doesn't mean the GOP wants to let it go...

They are thinking of ways to hang on...

Now that Obama is The Man...the GOP is flummoxed...they drool of ways to hang on to Power.

and yet,,,, Obama and his Team stands in the way....
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:53 PM
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44. The only place Bush was and Co were thinking this was your imagination.
You should consider writing a fantasy novel.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:25 PM
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45. Alert! To Rove and co...Obama is well liked. Get used to it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:33 PM
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46. Here you might need this:
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