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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:38 PM
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why do people apologize for torture?
What is wrong with our society that it is ok, in the minds of a disturbingly high number of people, to inflict excruciating pain on helpless, captive people?

Furthermore, why do I have to live among such people?

sigh.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:41 PM
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1. Think of a larger version of "you don't get to choose your family"...
for a practical answer to the second question.

As to the first, hell if I know. I suspect anything they say is really the closest-at-hand justification for something they really wanted to do all along.
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mooseprime Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:44 PM
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2. it's like a rent opened in space-time
and the middle ages' spanish inquisition burst forth. i almost made a bumper sticker for my car today -- "the blood of a million iraqis, mr. bush? why you're soaking in it" -- but can't afford to replace a trashed car. it is dizzying and numbing and staggering and breathtaking and appalling all at the same time that torture has become part of everyday america. that torture is even OK with one american is incomprehensible to me.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:49 PM
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3. because it's a bad thing to do?
:shrug:
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:52 PM
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5. are you thinking of the other meaing of "apologize"?
NT
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 11:49 PM
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4. anyone okay with torture has to make an image of their own child being tortured
fucking barbarians
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 12:48 AM
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6. why do I have to live among such people?
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 12:51 AM by undergroundpanther
I have asked that question for as long as I can remember.

I think people apologize for torture for the same reason they minimize the pain caused by bullying,rape and child abuse.
Bystander shame.

among other things.

Also psychopaths authoritarian and narcissistic personality types ,(and this flaw varies in severity in these bad people) but in general sociopaths/psychopaths are not just movie serial killers they are the bullies the mean people,the career assholes.They don't have a sense of empathy inside. They have no sense of compassion or shame restraining them from doing very bad things to others, they don't care about the well being of others at all,they can act like they care to get away with doing cruel things. They lack the thing inside most people that makes humans humane. They cannot be"cured" it is what they are.It's like being locked in a room with someone abusive.What do you do,tolerate it? Fight back? become a victim? or kill the abusers trying to harm you? There are not many options left and time is growing short.

My question is when are we going to inoculate people against the manipulating charm and cruelty of bad people,stand up, and protect the victims of abuse and torture,listen to them and stop letting them(the bad people) get AWAY with it?
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