Clinton SOS Appointment may be falling apart

[nomaco-10]

Obama has stated that anyone on his team that leaks internal discussions regarding appointments will be fired. It is being reported now that the Obama team is not happy with the leaks coming from the Clinton camp.

No, I don't have a link. It's what being discussed all morning on MSNBC. Not Morning Scab, all this is being discussed on the show that follows, the one Tamron Hall hosts. Chuck Todd, a Wa Po reporter and a few others.

Don't shoot the messenger please. I'm not posting an opinion, just what I heard on MSNBC.

[demnan]

1. It was a bad idea to begin with

and I like the Clintons, but there just isn't room for both egos (Clinton and Obama) in this administration. It would be a constant tug of war.

[Skwmom]

5. And constant drama.

[Kahuna]

8. Spare us from the drama that the Clintons seem to enjoy..

I still cannot imagine why Obama could not envision this circus surrounding the Clintons. I just don't get it. There is nothing she could bring to the job that Kerry or Richardson couldn't bring and more. She has already proven that she can't be trusted because of the way the leaks are getting out. Who needs that! :crazy:

[apnu]

20. I believe the Clinton pick was Obama's way of attempting to heal wounds from the Primaries

I have no problem with Hillary's qualifications, I think she is qualified for the job. I have no problem with her drive and work ethic, I think she'd work her tail off in the job.

But the Clintons bring drama where ever they go. Its just the way that they are, and Obama is decidedly no-Drama. I don't think this is a good fit in the Administration. This clash of drama/no-drama would not foster a good working relationship.

[Kahuna]

22. One of the primary qualifications for this job is loyalty. I just don't

see Hillary giving Obama the loyalty it entails. As far as I'm concerned she could have her dramas and circuses if she could 100% be loyal to his agenda. I just don't see her doing it.

[ErinBerin84]

2. there are so many leaks coming out, that they can't all be Clinton team people

Obama should just reiterate the "if you leak, you're gone" thing...I did hear Chuck Todd talking about this though, said that if the Obama team starts to get frustrated, they might leak out Clinton donors...that would be immature too. They need to be sent to Principal Obama's office for a talking to.

[Heather MC]

27. hmm, isn't it a leak to say that Obama said, "if you leak.. you are gone'

I think who ever is leaking hasn't been properly plugged up

[Jennicut]

3. The media are a bunch of idiots, they really are desperate and want an answer

LOL...they are practically begging for news on this Hillary SoS thing.

[bdamomma]

14. the media is the culprit in this, geez, can't they just stop and grow up.

[Kahuna]

18. No. The leakers are the culprits. The media are just being useful fools..

like they always are.

[blogslut]

4. Yes, I heard that

Her name is Tamron Hall. :hi:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20074213/

[nomaco-10]

9. Thanks, I edited and corrected it. I guess I should...

let "the google" be my friend more often. lol

[southernyankeebelle]

6. My My

I am beginning to have second thoughts about Hillary getting the SOS job. She might be more trouble than it is worth. I think he should not take her now.

[brianna69]

11. I too was initially excited about Hillary being SOS

Now with all this drama I think it is best it doesn't happen. All the other appointments so far have gone quietly and very smoothly whereas with this one there are 24/7 leaks and constant drama.

[SuperTrouper]

15. I agree and I am a Hillary Superfan. I think that this is getting ridiculous

and now Obama should just come out immediately and name Bill Richardson Secretary of State and let the chips fall wherever they fall

[geiger]

7. I was struck yesterday....

by Clinton's honest admission that she may not want to work for someone else. Maybe both sides are looking for a way out.

Never until her name was put forward would I have supported the nomination. Now I think it makes sense in a lot of ways, but with her camp "used to being in charge," it may be about more than just her, too. During the campaign she didn't seem to have command of her troops; as SOS, it could be disastrous. I understand the enthusiasm for her talents, but they would still need to be kept in check to larger political and security considerations.

[Cassandra]

13. I also think she prefers domestic policy...

and Ted Kennedy's giving her an out with a role in health care, even though she has no committee chair, is tempting.

[geiger]

17. Okay, and then that explains his presence there then, too.

I knew it was a power play, but, duh, should have been able to figure it out.

He was DE-termined walking in there.

[goclark]

21. I am beginning to agree

At first I thought it was a great move,thinking she is known all over the world and she is smart.

Then, when I heard all the moves that BC was making with his foundation it was a little over the top with information,IMO.

I can't understand that coming from anyone accept someone that should be Fired or some HC Cheerleaders.

Wasn't it Andrea Mitchell that started this mess?

Would BC be her CO SOS?

Too much drama for me.

[brianna69]

10. It is probably for the best that it falls apart

There has been way too much drama surrounding this. They probaly should pick Richardson as SOS and call it a day. The media circus is beyond ridiculous now.

[bdamomma]

12. you think it was a set up by Andrea Mitchell

she was the first to leak the information about a week ago.

[nomaco-10]

Maybe Andrea Mitchell was the one set up not visa versa. n/t

[bdamomma]

26. true.

[Kahuna]

19. I wonder about that. She seems to be very chummy with Team Hillary. nt

[SIMPLYB1980]

16. I wonder would Bill Clinton let himself be vetted if this wasn't going to happen?

I don't think so. Also Obama's people started this leak (trial balloon) whatever you want to call it. All the "news" is doing is stirring the pot. No one is getting fired over this, and if Obama didn't want this out he would squash it. But that's just my opinion I could be wrong.

[AtomicKitten]

23. Here's your link re: "Obama officials feel boxed in by Clinton team leaks."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/13/hillary-clinton-secretary_n_143735.html

more:
Update 11/20: The New York Times reports that suspected leaks from the Clinton team are angering Obama aides and may threaten Hillary Clinton's position:

Both sides were engaged in a delicate public and private dance, maneuvering for position and reputation in case the deal falls through. Aides in each camp have grown increasingly sour toward the other in recent days as the matter played out publicly.


In their public signals, the Clintons are trying to take the former president's activities off the table as an issue, in their view eliminating any excuses for Mr. Obama not to give Mrs. Clinton the job. Some in the Obama camp are bristling at what they see as strategic leaks by the Clintons aimed at boxing in the president-elect and forcing him to offer the post.

The tension could foreshadow a complex relationship burdened by suspicion and enmity should Mrs. Clinton become secretary of state. By putting her in the cabinet, Mr. Obama could remove a potential thorn in the Senate on issues like health care and a potential rival for the nomination in 2012 if his term proves rocky. But he could also face a rival power center within his own administration with her on his team.

[nomaco-10]

24. I'll bet the meetings with the clintons over the SOS

appointment made YALTA look like a campfire sing along at a boy scout jamboree.


edited to add: thanks for providing a link.

[leftynyc]

25. Was anybody actually quoted from

the Obama camp? That's what I'm curious about. If not, it's very easy for me to believe the media is making up the whole story about this. They love the drama and would love to fight the primary wars again (as would some of the people on this board). When they quote someone, I'll pay attention - otherwise I assume they're full of shit.