Anyone want to join me in a chorus of the following.....

[Roland99]

FUCK THE DLC!!!!!!!


:wtf: is Obama doing pandering to the Clintons and their supporters?

Where's the change that *I* can believe in? It sure as fuck isn't with the pro-corporate DLC!!!


Come on, Barack! Show us what you're made of! Show us that change you preached about for months!!

[Darkhawk32]

1. No need for him to pander at all. He doesn't need DLC lobbyist money. n/t

[babylonsister]

2. You're so invested in tearing him down, look at the big picture, would ya?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7877855

[Roland99]

4. People that worked for Clinton? Daschle? Gephardt? Three worthless has-beens?

great.


:eyes:



Sorry, but the DLC is a BIG part of the problem. And Hillary's incredible pro-Israel bias is damn near neocon in nature.

[LynneSin]

11. And Gephardt - damnit he worked with Ronald Reagan too!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gephardt

:sarcasm:

Perhaps Obama wants to bring in people who have the knowledge so he can build a strong team. And Dashcle was on the Obama team since the very beginning.

[Roland99]

15. Daschle is a washed-up has-been. Remember that phone call between Gore/Daschle/Gephart in 2000?

what a pathetic scene that was.

Where is the CHANGE?

Where are the non-lobbyists? The non-sucking-up-to-special interests people???

[LynneSin]

22. You need to walk away from the edge of the cliff

The guy has been in office for 2 weeks - geez.

And I have no problem with what he has done so far - he's not perfect but then I remind myself what I had these last 8 years.

[Roland99]

25. If there is any chance to salvage this government and actually start kicking K Streeters to the curb

then this is the wrong way to go about doing it.

[babylonsister]

20. Did you read the link? Obama wants experienced people around

him, UNLIKE Clinton had, to get things done. People who have been there/done that.

Obama will be setting the policy. All these knee-jerk reactions are ridiculous.

[Roland99]

26. And there's no one with any experience outside the Clinton camp?

:eyes:

[babylonsister]

31. When was the last time a Dem had power? That would be Clinton.

Try thinking. The only pool of experienced Dems left is from Clinton's admin unless you want to totally strip Congress, or want to hire rethugs.

[Roland99]

35. I don't want anyone from Congress. I suppose our states are completely devoid of talent?

We might as well just give up and go home.

[babylonsister]

38. Don't you get it? That's what Carter and Clinton depended on, and

even Bush, their homies. It didn't work out well because the local pols were not well-versed in politics at the DC level. If I find an article, and I've seen them, that explains all this, I'll zing it to you.

[Roland99]

40. Do you not get the point of all that?! CHANGE Washington so you DON'T HAVE to be an insider!!!

Term limits would be good, imo.

then maybe Reps/Senators would focus on doing their work instead of focusing on fundraising and campaigning.

[babylonsister]

41. You want immediate results from a man who isn't even president

yet. You're being unreasonable.

[Roland99]

43. I'm looking for that START. So far, I'm not seeing it.

He's not setting good precedent by pandering to the Clinton crowd.

[babylonsister]

44. So keep bitching. Have fun. I'm done trying to reason with you. nt

[No Elephants]

27. Daschle is the one who convinced Obama to run now, instead of waiting until he had a Senate

record to defend. So, we probably have Daschle to thank that Obama is President Elect. Don't know about Gephardt. But, who is experienced in working for a President and a Democrat who has not worked for clinton? The Carter people are a bit long in the tooth now.

[ellacott]

3. Yall are some of the whiniest people I have come in contact with

My goodness.

[Roland99]

5. So ignore my thread then. I'm fucking PISSED!!

and I will not be afraid to voice my opinion on what I see as huge lapses in judgment.

[ellacott]

28. The All-knowing DU posters

Hilarious

[Roland99]

29. Is that a mirror you're talking to?

I'm voicing an opinion.

If you don't like it you do have the option of ignoring my thread.

But lobbing insults? Nice. very nice.

[ellacott]

37. I'm voicing an opinion also

and you are lobbing insults at our President Elect. What's the difference.

I like reading posts like yours. It reminds me why we keep losing elections.

[Roland99]

39. Show me where I insulted Obama? Pointing out lapses of judgment is insulting?

crikey.

[Doityourself]

9. Aaa-FUCKING -MEN!!! n/t

[Critters2]

6. Ummm, some of us saw this coming. And said so.

Just sayin'.

[LynneSin]

7. yeah, I mean Hillary only worked her ass off to united this team after the conventions

and bring her 18 million voters in with the rest of us. Gee, Obama only one by 8.5million which means if we lost even half of those votes we could have been screwn (ok mind you there's alot of funky math with the EV stuff but you get my drift).

I voted for Obama because I trust him and if Hillary is the right person for the job (and she wants it) then so be it. CLintons still have a great deal of respect overseas and Hillary is someone who could not only do this job but have a strong connection with our allies in bringing them back into our fold.

[Roland99]

10. Well, as soon as I see proof that every vote over that 8.5 million gap wasn't coming anyway....

[LynneSin]

13. I'm assuming you forgot the sarcasm tag

the point is she earned her keep and hell does she even have the job yet? I mean we swore she was going to be VP - waiting for that one to happen to.

[Roland99]

16. Who swore she'd be VP? If Obama had picked her on the ticket he'd not have gotten my vote

neither would have McCain.

I'd have tossed my vote away.

[LynneSin]

19. Well I'm so glad he consulted with you before making that decision

:eyes:

Which is the reason why he is in the White House and the rest of us are here to bitch, moan and play monday morning Armchair coach at DU.

[Roland99]

23. Ever stop to think he knew that if he'd picked her he'd have lost the undecideds/moderate Republican

The anti-hillary vote plus the conservative base plus the lack of youth support probably would have spelled victory for McCain.

[No Elephants]

21. Obama never said he would make her VP. It was only her camp who floated that. You had no reason

to be waiting for that one and it is past time to stop waiting for it.

[LynneSin]

24. But the media took up on it too which is how the story grows

and later on we find out she wasn't even on the short list.

Now I do suspect this time she could be but I'm not worried about it. I'm just enjoying the fact that in 60+ days Bush is gonna be gone!!

[No Elephants]

18. Obama won by electoral votes, not by the popular vote.

[mmonk]

8. FTDLC! FTDLC!

;-)

[Individualist]

12. Absolutely!

And I put their supporters on ignore.

[cali]

14. you need a diaper change. n/t

[Roland99]

17. *that's* mature. Ad hominem attacks. Nice. Go back to freerepublic.

[Doityourself]

36. Okay now that was funny...made me spit out my water! n/t

[Darkhawk32]

30. C'mon folks. There is absolute no need for Obama to pander to the center.

At least not this much.

People in this country want a hard left turn.

Like Mr. Miyagi said...

“Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later get squish just like grape.”


Barack, if he continues to stay "in the center" will be squished just like a grape.

[Roland99]

34. Exactly! Bill caved to the GOP Congress and we got NAFTA, DMCA, etc. and no Universal Healthcare.

Bush never pandered to the Dems or compromised in the last 2 years and he's gotten everything he wanted, including continuing to spy on us domestically and continuing to operate Gitmo in a legal vacuum.


If we don't clear the detritus from the gov't NOW we never will!!

[Marrah_G]

32. Aren't you just a peach

/ignore

[PBS Poll-435]

33. Not me

For the Democrats to be successful in fixing the mess that Bush created, they will need to form a working coalition.

From Kucinich to Ben Nelson.

[Sebastian Doyle]

42. FUCK the DLC!!

With a dull rusty chainsaw :grr: