Any senators voting to keep Lieberman caucusing with the Dems should be ashamed of themselves

[mtnsnake]

It disgusts me to no end to hear some of our people speaking on behalf of that fucking traitorous, disloyal piece of shit Joe Lieberman. ""Oh, Joe made a couple mistakes. He's really a good guy, and blah blah fucking blah."

Lieberman not only has sided with the Republicans on some of the most important issues we face, but HE CAMPAIGNED FOR THE OTHER GUY!!! He said OUR guy would be a danger to the country!! Add to this that he had already stabbed the Democratic Party in the back after he lost the Democratic Primary in CT. I just can't understand how any Democrat can stick up for this guy. We don't even need his vote anymore.

If Lieberman keeps his current post heading the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and if he's allowed to caucus with the Democrats, then we might as well admit that our Party is the same old weak party that it's ever been. However, a vote to punish Lieberman and give him the boot from our Party would show our Party has finally got some moxie and won't stand for traitors like Joe.

It's now in the hands of our Senators. They can boot his sorry ass or they can reward him for being a traitor. Will the Democratic Party get tough, or will it continue down the path of weakness that people like Pelosi have led us?

Joe needs to get the fucking boot, and after him we need to figure out what to do with Pelosi.

[WeDidIt]

1. It's a secret ballot, so you don't know who to hold accountable

I, for one, will be holding them ALL accountable for this one.

Every last stinking one.

Edited to add: HE chairs the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, not the Foreign Relations Committee.

[mtnsnake]

3. Yes it is, unfortunately

and I feel just as frustrated about this as you. It's hard to believe that some of them have actually lobbied in public for supporting that traitor. At least for them, accountability is a no-brainer.

[WeDidIt]

5. I'm saving cash to donate to primary challengers

to both Dodd and Bayh.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

6. the shrewd bastards...if they vote to keep Joe in his HLS committee position ......

my brain will throw a fricken rod

[WeDidIt]

8. Of course he'll keep his chair

We have a caucus of cowards.

Save money to donate to primary challengers in 2010.

[stray cat]

2. I support Obama and Biden on this one - I suspect they have some influence on the outcome

[mtnsnake]

4. So you want Lieberman to keep his top job as chairman & to caucus with us?

[stray cat]

13. If Obama thinks it is better to have Lieberman caucus with us than I agree

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. Has Obama said that?

[catgirl]

7. He should be stripped of all chairmanships

But I think he should still caucus with us. Of course, he might stomp away in a
temper tantum. Oh well.

[derby378]

9. Refresh my memory, but looking back at the 2006 camapign...

Didn't Chuck Schumer threaten to withhold funding for the CT Democratic nominee for Senate if Lamont defeated Lieberman in the primary? This would mean that the DSCC would directly fund someone running against the rightful Democratic nominee.

[mtnsnake]

10. If you're making the claims, then it's up to you, not me, to back them up

Besides, what ever the case was back then, it makes no difference now. Lieberman was a scumbag back then for running against Lamont and he proved himself to be a huge traitor SINCE THEN, when he campaigned AGAINST Obama and FOR McCain/Palin. :puke:

[derby378]

14. Duly noted - here's a link

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2006/06/ctsen_schumer_gives_lieberman.php

[mtnsnake]

15. And?

Who cares what anyone said back then? That has nothing to do with this thread. All you're doing is going into the past and finding something to fault Schumer with back then. Do your own thread on that topic instead of trying to hijack this one to make a point about something that's barely relevant.

[derby378]

19. Oh, hush...

I find the potential abandonment of duly-nominated Democratic candidates by their own party to be a topic of ongoing and persistent interest. If you want to accuse me of "hijacking" this thread, that's your own lookout.

[still_one]

11. To remind everyone, lieberman called Obama anti-American, he said that Obama

would make our country a target of terrorists.

liberman IS NOT A DEMOCRAT by HIS choice

Actions have consequences, and if Democrats allow lieberman to keep his chairmanship, those Democrats should realize consequence for those actions

[WeDidIt]

12. And the Committee he woudl chair

would give him the power to constantly investigate Obama about those charges he leveled against Obama!

[still_one]

17. It should be no surprise to anyone here at DU why many Congressional Democrats

rubber stamped most everything that bush sent to them

[ErinBerin84]

16. Chuck Todd was on earlier

saying that Obama considering Hillary for SOS and telling people that Joe should not be stripped of his chairman position is his way of....TESTING THE BASE! And then he said "I mean, imagine, what if the story this week had been that the Democrats were going to strip Joe of his position?" Um, so what? And while Hillary is definitely not my first choice for SOS, I am insulted that he equates that with the Lieberman thing.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

20. I think Chuck Todd is right about one thing there.

I agree that comparing a loyal democrat (Hillary) with a two faced backstabbing moron is disgraceful. I don't think Obama is testing his base either. I think Todd is right about one thing though: If Obama had urged the senate to strip Lieberman of his chairmanship, the news media would pounce on that. They would declare Obama's presidency a failure before it started and they would try and paint him as some kind of radical who threw out a Senator for putting party aside and standing up for his beliefs. They would spend hours gleefully reporting that his promise of bipartisanship was over

We know that line would be a huge steaming pile, but it is what the media would be trying to sell us.

[karynnj]

21. Leiberman is NOT even on the SFRC

I think you mean Homeland Security

[Occam Bandage]

22. He's head of Homeland Security, not SRFC.