Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Eugene Robinson: No More Torture

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:43 AM
Original message
Eugene Robinson: No More Torture
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081117_eugene_robinson_obama_60_minutes/

No More Torture
Posted on Nov 18, 2008

By Eugene Robinson


“I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo, and I will follow through on that. I have said repeatedly that America does not torture, and I’m going to make sure that we don’t torture. Those are part and parcel of an effort to regain America’s moral stature in the world.”

That unequivocal passage from President-elect Barack Obama’s first extended interview since the election, broadcast on “60 Minutes” Sunday night, was a big step toward healing the damage that the Bush administration has done not just to our nation’s image, but to its soul.

snip//

Years from now, we will be shocked to see those pictures of naked prisoners being humiliated and abused at Abu Ghraib—and we will be ashamed of a U.S. government that punished low-level troops for their sadism but exonerated the higher-ups who made such sadism possible.

Years from now, we will know the full truth of the clandestine CIA-run prisons where “high-value” terrorism suspects were interrogated with techniques, including waterboarding, that both civilized norms and international law have long defined as torture. From what we already know, it’s hard to say which is more appalling—the torture itself, or the tortured legal rationalizations that Bush administration lawyers came up with to “justify” making barbarity the official policy of the United States government.

Obama’s clarity on the issues of Guantanamo and torture stands in contrast to his necessary vagueness about how he will deal with the economic crisis. Torture is wrong today and will still be wrong tomorrow, whereas today’s economic panacea can be tomorrow’s drop in the bucket. Who would have thought that these “war on terror” issues would be the easy part for the new president?

Not that easy, though. More reports like the UC Berkeley study will come out, but this is not a task that can be left to academic researchers alone. The new Obama administration has a duty to conduct its own investigation and tell us exactly what was done in our name. Realistically, some facts are going to be redacted. Realistically, some officials who may deserve to face criminal charges will not. But to restore our national honor and heal our national soul, at least we need to know.


Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. Eugene Robinson, a voice of reason.
I've come to respect him very much throughout the campaign. His columns make sense, and that wasn't an easy find in the past months.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:10 AM
Response to Original message
2. "Years from now, we will be shocked
to see those pictures of naked prisoners being humiliated and abused at Abu Ghraib—and we will be ashamed of a U.S. government that punished low-level troops for their sadism but exonerated the higher-ups who made such sadism possible."

Years from now? Eugene - it was shocking, horrifying, disgusting, and embarrassing the minute the first pictures hit the newsprint and airwaves. There have been hearings and hearings. They knew who developed the policy and a number of them refused to answer the questions under oath. There's alot of work that definitely needs to be done in order to never allow this to happen again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. I hear you, although I think ER meant years from now "as well," like that will always be wrong to
anybody who reads about it, hence the clear morality of ending Guantanamo.
I could be wrong, happens every single day :-(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Most people didn't care.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:15 AM
Response to Original message
3. Those that developed the policy....
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 09:16 AM by Ozma
We know who they are, it is obvious! We are a nation too divided to have ever charged the three people who should be charged in this affair. President Bush, VP Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld. No one else could have done this! It is as OBVIOUS as the lack of clothing on those prisoners!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:47 AM
Response to Original message
5. Robinson is a treasure
thank you
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
6. K&R
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:03 PM
Response to Original message
8. Years from now, we will see it repeat
Years from now, we will be witnessing new photos of Americans torturing other third world citizens. If Obama doesn't prosecute everyone responsible, we will see it again. Just as Cheney and Rumsfeld moved from the Nixon administration, to Iran Contra, to Shrub's cabal of neo-nazi's, we WILL see it again.

Not only will we see torture again, it will be far worse. Because the torturers will think they will get off scott free.

We must, absolutely must, insist that Obama hold these people accountable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC