Details on Hillary-Barack Meeting

[tekisui]

ABC News' Martha Raddatz reports: President-elect Barack Obama met with Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., Thursday in Chicago to discuss the possibility of the senator becoming secretary of state.

A source with knowledge of the transition process describes the meeting as not a hard offer. Obama is more cautious than that.

He is doing this more elegantly, but a source said Obama took a big step toward Hillary. They had a long private meeting in which they talked about their philosophies and what had transpired during the campaign.

He was extremely respectful, saying she was great, and giving her a huge amount of support. He said that he knew how much she cared about health care but said there are other challenges, and wanted to reach out to her about secretary of state.

They were both cautious but again took a big step toward her. She reciprocated.

Obama does not want to be seen as being rejected by her, but it is “hers to turn down,” one source put it.

They have an agreement to have another meeting or phone conversation about this very soon.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/11/details-on-hill.html

[HouObamaChapter]

1. CNN Reporting Obama offered SOS to Clinton

eom

[debbierlus]

42. Well, I think it is great & I hope she takes it. If you have ever watched her speak in the Senate

You know what a force she is...

I like it.

[Sensitivity]

2. That this has been so quickly leaked is a bad sign for a SoS appointment

[tekisui]

3. Why is it a bad sign?

[Cosmic Charlie]

21. because it's not Obama's people doing the leaking

[tekisui]

27. Well, Obama cannot have only "Obama people", now.

Although, they will become Obama people, they may not be as disciplined as his campaign team was when it comes to leaks.

And, who knows. This could be a managed, intentional leak, to give Hillary attention and create more buzz. Obama's team is good at controlling the message, leaks and speculation is one way of doing it.

[Cosmic Charlie]

29. oh, someone is trying to create buzz, alright

designed to sell the public on something that hasn't happened yet so that it will happen.

[WI_DEM]

4. In a way SOS has more responsibility than VP, and I think she should, and probably

does feel honored that Obama wants her for this difficult job.

[ananda]

11. Yeah.. imagine having an intelligent Democrat as SOS..

.. as opposed, say, to the totally incompetent
Rice and the spineless Bush lackey Powell.

[xultar]

5. I think Kerry coming out leaking that he wanted the job screwed his chances. imo

[Fabio]

9. r u nuts?

kerry didnt leak that, clinton did.

[politicasista]

13. Nah, it's always Kerry's fault n/t

[xultar]

15. Haters. Like herpes they just keep comin back..

[politicasista]

30. He didn't kill anything. He never leaked anything out

That's AP media spin. But for people that dislike Kerry, they have fun repeating it.

[Fabio]

6. f'in rahm emmanuel

[tekisui]

7. What makes you think f'in rahm emmanuel had anything to do with this?

[Fabio]

14. because there were three people in the room yesterday.

BO, HRC and RE.

[tekisui]

16. So, you think Rahm is in charge of Obama?

I think this is all Obama.

[Fabio]

18. he's definately his gatekeeper

and my point is that rahm leaked this, not that he "controls" Obama.

[tekisui]

20. Oh, I misunderstood.

I thought you were referring to the potential offer, rather than the leak.

I'm with you now.

[Fabio]

24. coolio

[S_E_Fudd]

31. Wrong...

According to Marc Ambinder...

There's was a private meeting. Contrary to what I said earlier, Rahm Emanuel wasn't in the room. He was in DC. But no one was in the room with the principals.

Besides the fact she would be an OUTSTANDING choice for this position... do you believe Obama is so weak willed he can't stand up to his own chief of staff?

[Fabio]

32. this report is not correct to my knowledge.

i didnt get mine from the news media. Take it for what it is worth but I feel confident about my sources. And, btw, it is laughable to think that RA was in DC when the congress is out of session and the transition team is largely in chicago.

[S_E_Fudd]

34. Who are your sources...?

Sorry...unless you are willing to divulge who your sources are, I will go with Ambinder who has proven to be very reliable...

[WI_DEM]

8. Obama is his own man.

[Kdillard]

10. I wonder what happened to turn Obama off of Kerry, Richardson and Hagel.

Hillary for this position just puzzles me.

[FarCenter]

23. How would you like Richardson at DoD and Clinton at State?

Hagel doesn't have the drive or initiative that's needed.

Kerry bloviates too much.

[Kdillard]

40. That would be interesting. Hillary could either be the most inspired pick for a

SOS in a long time or it could be a big mistake. I am going to keep my fingers crossed if it looks like she will be getting and accepting the job that it turns out to be inspired. I will say that Hillary certainly proved herself to be a team player for Obama during the GE and is a very effective communicator.

[debbierlus]

43. I think he wants Kerry leading the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

[Kdillard]

44. That makes a lot of sense. I believe Kerry will be very effective there

if he is not offered a post in Obama's Cabinet.

[Life Long Dem]

12. That has already been proven wrong.

11/13/2008 09:58 PM
By: NY1 News

CNN is reporting that sources close to President-elect Barack Obama's transition team say New York Senator Hillary Clinton is one of several candidates being considered for secretary of state.
However, a source close to Clinton told NY1 Thursday that the senator has yet to be contacted about that, or any other cabinet position.

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/88919/obama-may-be-considering-clinton-for-secretary-of-state/Default.aspx

Wed Nov 12, 12:14 pm ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) –

… Transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter denied reports that Christopher, who was secretary of state from 1993 to 1997, had been tapped for the role. Cutter said in a statement. "There's a lot of disinformation out there."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081112/pl_afp/uspoliticsobamapentagonstate_081112171416

[tekisui]

19. This is newer than either of those.

And, the second link has nothing to do with Clinton.

[Life Long Dem]

45. No it's not newer.

[Cosmic Charlie]

17. "A source with knowledge of the transition process describes the meeting as not a hard offer"

oh, reaaaallllly?

so he didn't offer her the job.
some folks are working awfully hard to make us think that's what he did.

[tekisui]

22. Any offer from the President is a hard offer.

Everybody knows that.

[JVS]

26. Then not a hard offer means no offer was made.

[Cosmic Charlie]

39. Obama probably justed asked if she was willing to be vetted for the position, including Bill

now Hillary has to decide whether she will go through that.

[Cosmic Charlie]

28. right, it wasn't an offer

it's just made to appear that way based on your lens.

[peace frog]

36. That's how I interpreted it

He might or might not have said any damn thing to her. We'll know for sure when one or both make a public statement.

[BootinUp]

25. I don't think Hillary will turn it down.

I will be disappointed if she does.

[Median Democrat]

35. Well, She Was All Smiles, But She Still May Not Take It...

Why walk away from a safe, cushy NY Senate seat into a prominent cabinet seat fraught with challenge? There are two wars going on at the moment. You would have to have a certain degree of masochism to take this on.

[BootinUp]

38. Sure, but don't you think

she has already shown she is willing to take punishment to accomplish something big? If she doesn't take it, it won't be for that reason imo.

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[mwei924]

37. The people who worked for his campaign love Obama and believed in their message.

His campaign people were with him from the beginning even when it looked like he didn't have a shot in hell. It's different when you helped build the campaign and the candidate from nothing.

A lot of the new people working for him now are just in it for the power. I don't think we'll see as much devotion from them.

[greguganus]

41. War mongers leaving the White House hold the door open for the ones coming in.

Fate comes a-knockin
Doors start lockin
Your old time connection
Change your direction
You aint gonna change it
Cant rearrange it
Cant stand the pain
When its all the same to you, my friend

Its the same old story
Same old song and dance, my friend
Its the same old story
Same old story
Same old song and dance

[cali]

46. anyone who can't see the stark differences between Obama and bush

is either blind or stupid.