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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:30 PM
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Per CT Constitution: If Lieberman goes GOP, We can Impeach Him Here in Connecticut
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 02:30 PM by Roberto1223
Go Ahead Lieberman, make my day!



COMMITTEE’S FINAL STATEMENT OF INFORMATION


The investigatory committee’s Final Statement of Information also described the role of the House: “To enact Articles of Impeachment against respondent, the House must not only determine—with sufficient certainty to place respondent on trial—that the claimed conduct occurred, but that respondent’s conduct constituted impeachable conduct. ” It adds that “…leading legal scholars in the early 19th century saw the imprecision in the language of impeachment standards as an inevitable outgrowth of the nature and purpose of the impeachment inquiry. The emphasis of the impeachment process has been on the significant effects of the conduct—undermining the integrity of office, disregard of constitutional duties and oath of office, abrogation of power, and abuse of the governmental process. ”

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2004/rpt/2004-R-0144.htm
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:32 PM
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1. I'd be happy if you'd just quit @!#$! electing him.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:34 PM
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2. we are trying ..believe me we are trying. n/t
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:36 PM
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5. He was elected by Republicans. nt
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:35 PM
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3. I am by no means defending Lieberman, but at first glance....
I don't see how it can be demonstrated that he has been guilty of this kind of conduct:

"undermining the integrity of office, disregard of constitutional duties and oath of office, abrogation of power, and abuse of the governmental process. ”
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:47 PM
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11. He has betrayed us in CT completely ignoring us for over a year to
run around with McCain. He was defeated by the Dem. primary and created a new Party Independents for Lieberman to get elected and now he will abandon his second party in less than 2 years to go to the GOP. That is abuse of power and abuse of his office with high disregard to his constituents. Of course we will push hard for Impeachment. If the GOP impeached bill Clinton on bogus charges we can try to get Joe out of office for his behavior.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:35 PM
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4. That's great news!
Impeach his arse!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:38 PM
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6. US Constitution outweighs
United States Constitution

Article II


<snip>

Section 5. Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide.


Once elected, only the body to which they've been elected can alter that.

Sorry, Joe is there unless he resigns, is expelled, or expires.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:42 PM
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8. he can actually threaten his resignation as leverage bcz the guv is repuke
am i right on that score
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:43 PM
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10. It's not much leverage
HE's either in the Dem caucus or the GOP caucus.

Joe is there, though. The people of Connecticut have no leverage until 2012.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:39 PM
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7. We elected colorado Dem Senator Nighthorse Campbell and then he went Republican
turning his first term. We had no impeachment process for him and we were pissed.
I don't see anything in the committee's statement that is hopeful, but you know your
state better than me.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:50 PM
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13. We'll take a closer look to the Constitution but there is wide latitude for discretion there
to commence impeachment articles or at least to visit the topic.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:19 PM
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19. there really isn't
In fact, the Connecticut Constitution doesn't even allow for the impeachment of state legislative officers let alone federal legislative officers. Only the governor, executive officers, and members of the judiciary are liable for impeachment under the Connecticut Constitution. Art 9, Sec 3.
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:43 PM
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9. Wouldn't that be sweet, and so deserved.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:49 PM
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12. Impeachment is not constitutional....
Edited on Fri Nov-07-08 02:50 PM by S_E_Fudd
The only federal officers that can be impeached are the President, Vice President, and federal judges...

They cannot be recalled either. The constitution makes no provision for a term less than 6 years...

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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:51 PM
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14. The state has its own Constitution. I am not talking about the Federal Constitution
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:51 PM
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15. United States Senator is a federal office...
A state cannot proscribe the length of term nor impeach a Senator...

Recalls as well are not constitutional as the constitution explicitly proscribes the length of term with no mechanism of removal. The only way is by a vote of the Senate as they are empowered to make decisions regarding which members are seated. So he can be expelled.

SOme state have recall laws which are non-binding, but which politicians will voluntarily follow (Arizona has one)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:00 PM
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16. small problem: Connecticut doesn't have power to impeach a US Senator
A US Senator is not an officer of the state of Connecticut, he/she is an officer of the United States. By its terms, the CT Constitution provides only that "The governor, and all other executive and judicial officers, shall be liable to impeachment." (Art 9, sec 3).

Sorry, but no soap.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:03 PM
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17. Dude, you are totally killing my buzz...
:)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:18 PM
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18. sorry...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:37 PM
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21. oh, so can we still tar and feather him?
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:33 PM
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20. Impeach!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:37 PM
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22. Exactly, Reid knows that too. tee hee hee
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:38 PM
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23. if you're suggesting Reid knows Lieberman could be impeached, you're wrong
Indeed, Reid almost certainly knows that Lieberman cannot be impeached or otherwise removed from the Senate except by a vote of the Senate, and that's not happening.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:41 PM
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24. You're right, I've done some additional reading. I am wrong.
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