Nader in the debates

[CaTeacher]

I think the Kerry campaign should propose that Nader be in the debates.

1) they will say no and Kerry will look magnanimous while * will look scared of Nader

2) if by some miracle Nader participated in the debates we know he will attack * strongly acting as Kerry's surrogate. Kerry can be presidential and above the fray, while Nader plays the attack dog on Bushes ass.

What do you think?

[zulchzulu]

1. Only if Gallagher and Carrot Top can be there too

Nader should stick to playing his role as a phoney charlatan who just wants campaign money to line his pockets...

[GaryL]

5. You win.

You're my chuckle for the day. Thanks!

[WilliamPitt]

16. Milk flowing freely from nose

:)

Nice one.

[UpsideDownFlag]

2. um...if he is in the debates, there just as much a chance that

he'd attack kerry for being Bush Lite. he's that apeshit crazy.

[Cheswick2.0]

3. WTF, sorry, don't take this wrong but WTF?

Nader will not attack bush. He will attack Kerry. He is running against Kerry, not bush. This is just like 2000 when he ran against Gore rather than bush.

[Davis_X_Machina]

4. we know he will attack * strongly acting as Kerry's surrogate.

WE KNOW NOTHING OF THAT SORT!

The reverse, if anything, is more likely.

Who's paying for Ralph's signature petitions?

And for which party's destruction has Nader, on the record, called for?

[Andromeda]

6. I don't agree.

Nader has no horse in this race and stands no chance of winning. He is an annoying distraction and I don't think anybody should take him seriously, quite the contrary, he should be treated like the pariah he is.

[tuvor]

7. There's not enough time

to focus on anything Nadir has to say.

I'm also biased because I read his Salon interview a couple of months back, and was much less than impressed.

[zulchzulu]

8. A sample of the crap that would happen

Lehrer: Senator Kerry, how would you reform the Social Security system?

Kerry: We did protect Social Security in the US Senate, and Social Security is safe and sound well into the next two decades or more. With very minor changes, with a strong economy, the next generation will have Social Security. I will never privatize Social Security. I will never try to extend the retirement age for Social Security. And I will not cut any benefits for Social Security.

(Decent, mannerly applause)

Lehrer: President Bush?

Bush: I believe in fuzzy math, if it's time to return to chaos. I have to do math every day and I ask "Is our children learning". Are the mothers loving their doctors? I hope so. I have to add up the numbers and decide whether I'm going to fill potholes out on Rt. 36 east of Abilene or commit funds to re-roof the sheep barn at the Texas state fairgrounds. This is America.

(sounds of USA! USA! USA!)

Lehrer: Mr. Nader?

Nader: The corporatists and the corporations are corpulant when it comes to the Peace Corps. We need to stop this madness and by the way, Corvairs are now very, very, very hard to find, thanks to me and my campaign to get the corporations to not be corporate and corpulant with the corps of followers with here. Here.

(wild hooting and applause from the back section and broken glass from a bong that falls out of someone's Tibetan backpack)

[Zomby Woof]

22. oh holy fuck

I am collapsing here... that was the MOST genuinely funny post I have read on DU in many many moons. :D

[zulchzulu]

25. Zomby!

Glad you liked it... I am the Zomby Woof... gawd, I love that tune.

[Chili]

26. RRRROTFLMAO!

Thanks for that!

*snort!*

[LimpingLib]

9. But then there would be some real disagreements.

Elites will have nothing of that.

$800 billion in corperate wellfare exposed to the American people?

The suggestion that the canidates consider appointing pro civil liberty Supreme Court justices infront of an American audience?

$100 billion in overseas military bases exposed as uneeded? My gosh Richard Holbroke , and the other foreign policy elites Kerry and Bush will appoint would be shattered that the "much needed" "forward projection" menace of our military would dare be criticised and heaven forbid the country actualy decides it likes the alternative never proposed:ending all foreign bases and taking troops home.

Real health care reform as a topic of discussion?

Patriot Act exposed as the Orwellian legislative Trojan Horse.


If you think Nader will be allowed in the debates then you are wrong. David Gergen would smack Bush so hard if Bush forgot what his orders were from ultra corrupt daddy.

[Old and In the Way]

10. I think it would be disasterous for Kerry to want Nader in the debates.

Giving Nader time, reduces the time available for the electorate to hear Kerry-Bush discuss the issues. He'll take the heat off Bush. And there's no guarantee that he'll attack Bush...after all, Republicans are financing his campaign. More likely, he'll go after Kerry because it is Kerry's voters that share some common ground with Nader.

[LisaL]

11. Hell no.

All Kerry needs is to compete against Bush and Nader.
Geez!

[dad]

12. Nader would kick Kerry's *** in a debate.

While he was undeniably brave in opposing the enemy on the battlefield, his conduct in the Senate and in this campaign has been craven. On crucial votes he sides with the "Republican Lite" wing of the party. In this campaign, he is afraid to attack Bush on his many dismal failures.

Kerry voted for the Iraq War Resolution. I know he is too bright and experienced to really be taken in by Bush's transparent lies. That means he did it because he was running for president, war is popular, and it was consensus opinion that any 'No' vote would be electoral suicide. The man who asked, "Who wants to be the last one to die for a lie?" during Vietnam cast his Iraq war vote for reasons which were not honorable.

Kerry voted for the No Child Left Behind Act, which drained money and time away from real teaching by mandating testing.

"Get over it." That was part of the response Kerry gave to a liberal who condemned the theft of the presidency in 2000. Kerry has yet to express anger that the election was stolen.

"Those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don't have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be president of the United States." This was Kerry's attack on Howard Dean after Dean said Americans are no more safe than we were before the capture of Saddam.

His lack of outrage at the current administration's serial criminal behavior makes him an unworthy advocate for people who are appalled by what Bush is doing to America.

He has voted to confirm the vast majority of Bush's neo-con appointees, helping prepare America for more miscarriages of justice like 12-12-00.

He apparently was considering John McCain for VP.

Kerry and Bush wouldn't let Nader in the debates, because then we'd actually hear the point of view of an anti-war, pro-consumer, pro civil liberties candidate.

[LisaL]

13. This wonderful candidate

couldn't even collect enough signatures to get on the ballot in Ca, for crying out loud.
Nader doesn't even have a party-he got two!
:eyes:
Nader is not going to get anywhere near the number of votes he got last time, why is he running?
What does he want?

[zulchzulu]

21. Simplistic bumpersticker mentality

Nader is a charlatan. Kerry would expose his phoney ass for all to see.

Do your homework. You sound like Jello Biafra...

We can talk about the IWR vote all day... Kerry wanted the funding for the NCLB to be funded...

Nader would rather bilk the poor Green Party by making them by the database they suppled to him in 2000.

Nader is an idiot and we can thank him for helping get Bush selected in 2000.

Dean already kicked his sorry ass in a debate.

[Tim_in_HK]

14. No way

Nader would not spend his time attacking Bush. He'd attack Kerry.

Bush et al would love to have Nader in there. Nader's not going to take any votes from Bush . . .

Besides, debates should be reserved for national candidates.

[George_Bonanza]

15. Cobb should be there before Nader

He's on more state ballots for one. Putting Nader in would be solely for his celebrity, not his actual weight in the upcoming election.

[Doosh]

17. no way, Nader takes votes from Kerry

Badnarik is the guy who we need in the debates

[The Magistrate]

18. He Ought To Be In The Debates, Ma'am

If he buys an admittance ticket and sits in the audience with the rest of the onlookers....

He has no more business up behind a podium than any other karaoke warbler has on stage at Carnagie Hall.

"Always kick a man when he's down."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[maine_raptor]

19. If you want to watch a Two-on-One debate, watch any cable

news show, because that's what having Nader in the debates would be. Two (Bush & Nader) Vs One (Kerry).

The only question it would answer is: Who has more ego, Bush or Nader?

[dolstein]

20. If Nader gets to be in the debates, then so should I

After all, Nader and I both have the same chance of getting elected president -- ZERO.

[Carla in Ca]

23. The way things are going

there may not be any debates. * is too busy whining.

[cheshire]

24. No ifin way. He doesn't have as many people behind him as 2000

And all he's doing is whining about how we kept him from his rightful place in the world. Wacko like Swoosh.