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smkyle1 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 08:07 PM
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What to do to protect an election from being stolen. . . .
Here are some things we must start planning - and doing - immediately:

* Push for Major Turnout and Deliver a Historic Blowout: Experts say that large turnouts and a wide margin between candidates make fraud and suppression more difficult because of the number of votes that must be manipulated and erased. Large turnout and overwhelming victories also communicate to big political and economic interests our passionate desire to change our political system, including our maligned electoral process.

* Monitoring on the Day of the Elections: Don’t just take your vote to the polls, take your cameras, notepads and cell phones so that you can document and report any irregularities you experience or see. Local and national election monitoring groups like Election Protection (1-866-OUR-VOTE), the country’s largest election monitoring operation, have set up systems for anyone to report irregularities.

* Study Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004: Studying the irregularities of and responses to these two elections provide us with the best case studies of what to look for and, if necessary, how not to respond (i.e., just sit back and watch the election get stolen your TV set).


http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/11/01/what-to-do-before-and-if-necessary-after-the-election-is-stolen/
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 08:19 PM
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1. k&r n/t
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smkyle1 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 09:32 PM
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2. I'm new to DU -- what does n/t mean?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:17 AM
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4. no text = there's nothing in the body of the message
And welcome to DU!
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Lionhearted Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 10:32 PM
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3. Whatever we do, we cannot allow Obama or the Democratic Party to bow out graciously
If McSame some out noses out a victory, we need to make sure any potential fraud is throughly investigated.

Fortunately, I've heard that Obama has hired an army of lawyers. Let's hope they're tough.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:18 AM
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5. Obama has amassed "the largest law firm in the world"
He is totally on top of this. Thank. God.
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Lionhearted Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:19 AM
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6. He may have the biggest law firm, but does he have the steel to use it?
It seemed to me that Gore and Kerry didn't fight as hard as they might have because they didn't want to "endanger our democracy?"

Can you imagine Dubya or Cheney or Old John or Winking Sarah being troubled by such considerations?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:32 AM
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7. If you don't think Obama is different from Gore or Kerry, you haven't been paying attention
Beyond which fact, if we opened the back doors of this campaign, I'm sure we'd see lots of familiar faces working together. We have many important people who learned the mistakes of the past. They aren't going to make them again.
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Lionhearted Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 12:24 PM
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10. It's us who need to insist the fight be fought
If we'd known then what we know now about Dubya, don't you think we'd have been in the streets after the Gore theft? At least, we should have been.

But now we know that and if a similar theft is going on, we need to get in the streets ourselves, and not rely on the Obama campaign staff to do all the fighting.

That's really the point of the original article.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 12:29 PM
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12. I DID know about Dubya. I've been researching/writing about BushCo for 20 years
I knew he was a hot house fascist. Where has everyone been for twenty years? All the information was out there.

The point is where we are now. We can't remake the past. And if they steal the election, I fear (due
to the violence that will explode) we'll have another reason to remember the 5th of November. I think "they" know that
also.
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Lionhearted Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:15 PM
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15. A few of us knowing things doesn't seem to be enough.
There's always a few voices shouting out what's going on, but then an ocean of pablum washing from the mainstream media and the DC think tanks...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 03:11 AM
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8. The man was a voting rights lawyer AND a Constitutional law professor. An
African American who made it this far without even a family fortune behind him; and you're wondering if has steel? Did Jackie Robinson have steel? Did the Tuskegee Airmen? Come on, now. He'll do what it takes.
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:41 AM
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9. Do you remember what happened in the primaries?
I'm with you in hoping it will be different this time but I have no idea what to expect.
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smkyle1 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 05:53 PM
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14. According to Marc Crispin Miller and Steven Hill, two experts on election fraud. . .
we have every reason to start to prepare. Check out Marc Crispin Miller's Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMRNbbq90yE
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Lionhearted Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 12:26 PM
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11. I hope you're right
I have endless admiration for Obama and the campaign he's run. I'm just getting opening night jitters, I guess.
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smkyle1 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 02:00 PM
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13. what he'll need is the masses DEMANDING it
that is what both Gore and Kerry lacked. We, the people, have got to stop waiting on the leaders to take the lead. We have to demand what we want. DU and the many other progressive social networks is making is possible for us to stay connected with each other in ways that support change.

http://www.laprogressive.com/
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