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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:44 PM
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George Tenet and Spies For Obama?!
Rank-and-File Spies Seem to Be Leaning Toward Obama
By Jeff Stein, CQ Staff


In normal times you might expect intelligence types to support John McCain , who has said he would like to turn the CIA into something like the far more nimble World War II-era cadre of spies and saboteurs, the OSS.

It’s an idea that’s suddenly attractive to a lot of disillusioned veteran CIA operatives, who think the present CIA has grown too big, cautious and sclerotic for today’s needs.

But this is not a normal year, to say the least. And the signals I’m picking up from the direction of CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., suggest that the spies are going for Barack Obama .

“Normally, at least a while back, and certainly in the 1990s, during the Clinton administration, people around the CIA would tend to vote Republican,” says a recent covert agency retiree, asking not to be identified because he still consults with the spy agency.

“But I think that’s changed, probably because of Iraq and Afghanistan,” he said.

After years of derision and insults from neoconservatives who coalesced in the Bush administration, old hands say, they’re getting their revenge.

“I think a lot of the intelligence community, and particularly the CIA, has been pissed off at the neoconservatives, going back to first Red Team effort,” a group of 1970s-era hawks that challenged the Carter administration’s CIA estimates on Soviet weapons, says a national security official who has served in both Republican and Democratic administrations.

“There’s been a longstanding distrust by conservatives of the intelligence community and particularly the CIA,” he said, asking not to be identified because he occupies a sensitive position.

Campaign insiders say former CIA Director George J. Tenet and virtually his entire senior management team at the agency are standing behind Obama — in the shadows, naturally — not that a public endorsement by the top intelligence officials who helped bring us Iraq could do the Democratic candidate any good.

more...

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=hsnews-000002979071
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:46 PM
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1. Look who else endorsed Obama today:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:39 PM
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16. where's the other guy?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:47 PM
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2. Felons for Obama?!


:wtf:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:49 PM
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3. Is Barack Obama a republican? Lol!
:sarcasm:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:08 PM
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5. Tenet, yes, but I can't imagine all those spies are felons. I can't
even grasp this really. :crazy:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:19 PM
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6. Tenet is like Powell, not a bad man
but didn't stand up to the neocons at the time.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:31 PM
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8. When are you bad? When you obstruct the My Lai massacre investigation?
When you cover up Iran Contra?

When you lie to the world about WMD?

When you keep quiet about torture and illegal wiretapping?

When you take the stand to give Ted Stevenson a character reference?

Colin Powell, not standing up to the neocons -- his whole career.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:09 PM
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12. I KNEW I should have told CJCRANE to duck! nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:26 PM
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13. Okay! I'm sorry!
lol
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:31 PM
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15. In an election we need every vote
but this post indicates why replies should be entitled to recs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:33 PM
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9. It's very simple. They go to where the power is.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:50 PM
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10. OK.
But I'll just bet there are some employees in the CIA who have not been happy with what they've been seeing. There could be a few Dems in the mix who have more honorable intentions.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:06 PM
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11. Can you imagine what the last eight years have been like
for nonpartisan professionals in the whole Bush government? :scared:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:29 PM
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14. Not even. If someone with a family and bills had to go through
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 09:57 PM by babylonsister
this and not agree with it, that would take a strong person. But so many of us are in that boat, working in a place we can't stand for whatever reason. THIS would be a reason.

I've also read a lot of people bailed or/and are bailing.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:53 PM
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4. The neocons only outed a covert operative
blamed the CIA for the WMD lies and allowing 9/11 to happen.

Why would the CIA look forward to the end of Republican rule?

:sarcasm:
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:26 PM
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7. Cheney brow beated these guys into cooking intelligence
Careers were destroyed over the WMD bullshit. I've seen several documentaries were former CIA official came out and basically blew the whistle on how Chaney's office cherry picked un credible intelligence to create the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that was presented to congress. They were basically forced to make up shit that caused the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands Iraqis.

I can see why they've had a change of heart.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:33 PM
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17. Interesting...you jogged my memory...you betcha...
That agency was told to come up with the information the WH wanted NO MATTER HOW THEY HAD TO DO IT...even if it meant outright lying...I recall seeing a leaked memo...with just those instructions(I had bookmarked it, then lost my hard drive)...and the guys at the CIA were really pissed that they were charged to lie about information and evidence of WMD in Iraq...so this makes a lot of sense...wb
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